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I'm not with you at all. I thought it was a really good movie.

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Well, once they swore him in as a "provisional" police officer, and then allow him to go into a vacant field after a suspect, armed, and with little to no training for this type of thingthat pretty much ruined it for me right there.

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What you just explained, jmorrison-2, actually happens, so I don't know why it "ruined" the movie for you. The exact scene of Bobby tracking Vadim in the reeds, the director admits to being a little dramatic. But Bobby being sworn in as a provisional officerthat kind of thing happens all the time in a very hush hush way. And Gray also revealed from his research that they would never allow a provisional officer into a dangerous situation like that without a gunno way. It's for the most part, very true to life.

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I do understand that this may happen, and I know that undercovers especially are sometimes sworn in in secret. I didn't necessarily have a problem with that, but suddenly he's going on police raids, without ever having set foot in the academy? Providing him with a weapon; then allowing him to track a suspect in a field by himself strained credulity. He had no training in the weapon, or the use of deadly force. It seems to me an obvious issue of department liability, not to mention officer safety. It just all seemed to happen too fast, without any questions being asked. I mean, it had been not too long ago that he was being roughed up by police officers in his club, and taken in. Was the department all of a sudden comfortable with his change of heart? This was not explained nearly enough. This was just rammed down our throats to fit the story.

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I was not going to watch the movie because of the reviewsbut this movie turned out to be a pleasant surprise and is very enjoyable.Infact I might just watch it again,because I missed out on a couple of scenes because my friend came in between the movie.
Everyone except Eva Mendes,everyone acted well.I cannot understand how she gets great movies like this.She can't act at all,and I find her repulsive to look at.

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this reminds me of the displeasure i experienced with the number 23
watchable and even interesting but if you think about it it sucks.

how many people in witness protection can become cops in the matter of 12 seconds. who at all can become a cop in 12 seconds.

on top of that some bad writing which may have lead to one of the worst performances to date by Mark Whalberg. I'm blaming the writing because ultimately i like Whalberg.

Apparently it's just THAT easy to break loose from prison.

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It is that easy to break out of prison sometimes. Prisoners often escape when faking medical conditions, it happens. Plus as was stated, Vadim had help from the outside during his transfer. And again, Bobby didn't "become" a cop, he was sworn in as a probationary officer because he had special knowledge on this case, they told him he would have to go the the academy afterwards. That happens too, nothing here was unbelievable. I wouldn't blame Wahlberg's performance on bad writing either, he's just not that good. Phoenix managed to be brilliant, regardless of the writing.

"Why would a banana grab another banana? Those are the kinds of questions I don't want to answer."

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yes this movie i found it to be slow moving,boring, weird and unexciting. theres dozens of movies better than this garbage. Terrible terrible movie i agree.

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yeah stupid movie totally unbelievable. Goes from one thing to the other. Vadim escapes, piece of cake(yeah right duh). Joaqim becomes a cop(that easy it seems it goes in NY),takes decisions as if he's the leader, becomes member of arresting team and goes without permission after the bad guy and kills him just like thatpfff and then vote it as being good?!

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This was one of my favorites from 2007. I loved it!

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I am not with you on this one. I liked it enough. Not the best I've seen but certainly not among the stinkeroos I have been stuck with lately. At least it had pace, was overly long and the acting was okay. There were some predictable moments, such as the cigarette lighter, match thing..I knew that was going to happen, a no brainer. Wouldn't give it in the 7 range but a 5 fer sure.

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yeah, i'm a huge mark walberg fan, but the script and plot were very hard to stay interested in. i watched this on dvd the other night with my boyfriend, and i should have turned it off at the very beginning with the masturbating scene i felt like i was watching a bad porno. he thought that was the only good part of the whole movie!!

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i just finished this movie. i had to fast fwd through most of it, it was pure garbage. "we're positive this hit was done by professionals". ya except they shot him in the head and DIDNT KILL HIM. what pro'sjust stupidand in the end they try and catch the vadim by burning down a field?!@#? WTF?????
this movie made me so mad

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Idiot, you didn't even watch the movie. Your opinion is worthless.


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And don't forget, it was said "They were pros for sure - they burnt the car" or something to that effect. What was the point of burning the car to begin with ?
That and the fact that the shooter didn't make sure he was dead - or, at the very least, gave him two in the head, said to me "OK, this wasn't the Russians" and I started thinking about the possible sub plot being introduced. When I heard the line "They were pros" I almost burst out laughing ! I guess there are few, if any, NYPD or 'big city' cops here on IMBD as any one of them would comment that the whole 'family' thing would not have gone down and there would have been big issues with their bypassing the Feds. to say the least.The most insanely incredible part though was letting 'Bobby' run around with a shot gun, having had NO fire arms training !! Every cop there would have been raising hell as he was a danger to all of them !! The most I heard was one of the cops yelling "Hey Bobby, come back here !". Right. That would be the typical reaction ! LOL !! And not to mention the very real possibility of Bobby setting up a hostage situation with the Russian. They could have saved this scene had they had "Bobby" bolt into the smoke filled brush before they had a chance to notice or catch him. And then have an accidental discharge (intentionally demonstrating the danger of him having the weapon) killing the Russian in one of those "River Kwai" moments (the scene where the young guy balks at stabbing the Jap. soldier).If the part where Bobby tells the 'uncle' to get on his knees was to suggest one of the cops was to execute the unclePLEASE !! Not that this wouldn't/couldn't happen (cop executing a 'bad guy' tied to a cop killing) but never in font of 15 -20 fellow officers! Give me a break !! Then, at he very least, at the grad ceremony,a well deserved balling out of all involved "Do you know the danger you put your fellow officers in, how you've disgraced the Dept. ? etc., Do you know the mess you've created by keeping this hush-hush from the Feds ?" etc., and the but/for "your fathers years of service. I will try to keep a lid on this as much as possible but don't expect miracles" etc., from the Commissioner, whatever - then maybe I could have given it a pass without cringing from the ridiculousness of the ending (and most in between). Just my take
Oh yeah the 'running the red lights' - just for a simple meeting ?? Why attract attention like that - especially since they trusted him to begin with ? Why expect a tail ? The 'hood' was just to protect the location. Any cop with decent instincts, having pulled them over for running the lights,would most likely sense the 'odd man out', ask for some ID, ask some pertinent questions and probably call for back up when he realized things were not adding up - demeanor and answer wise.Big time drug traffickers would know this.You don't risk blowing everything over a routine traffic stop.Of course the point was to make us think the 'feather' bit wasn't going to save him as they 'lost' the cops (tail). In the GF, Lou did the quick U turn because they were trying to loose any wise guy tail that Sonny may have arranged, not the police. Two different situations.
And how much would it have cost the producers to hire an NYPD consultant ? I wouldn't doubt they did and were told 'you have to do a total re write for this stinking pile of excrement to have any credibility' so they canned him/her and went on with production. "Screw the paying customer, we have deadlines to meet".
Or "What does the average movie goer know about cops and drug dealers ?". I guess theres a point to be made there.How many countless movies have we heard the order 'Cover the back door". C'mon !! This is the NYPD not Mayberrys finest LOL !!

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So.tell us how you really feel.

I used to dissect the hell out of films about medicine the same way.

Then I learned something. All films have a detachment from reality for dramatic impact. If a movie isn't a documentary, I don't care how many "glaring" mistakes there are. Was it a good yarn? Did I enjoy it?

It's not that I don't see inconsistencies, I just disregard them if they don't get in the way of my enjoyment of the actors and the story.

Clearly, too many things stood out for you. I'm sorry for that.


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I enjoyed it, but critically speaking, the whole part of him becoming a cop kind of ruined it for me.

I was not impressed by the 3rd act, BUT I did enjoy the film before I critically analyzed it.

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I had a hard time forcing myself to finish it!

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I wouldn't call it terrible, just not very original and not very compelling. A movie doesn't need a lot of slam bang action for me to find it interesting just a good story and well-drawn characters. This movie wasn't strong enough to hold my attention. A bit of an effort to sit through it.


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I agree that it was more of a letdown than a truly terrible movie. I found it slow and moronically predictable with a cast full of popular faces. Put three or four no-name actors in the leads and you've got a mediocre Lifetime or straight to video movie. Also, good gawd did they go out of their way to make this flick seem set in 1978. Every disco era clich was here in abundance. If they wanted 1988 it would have been U2,INXS, and parachute pants (not Blondie and bell bottoms ). Kinda reminds me of in every Vietnam era movie they feel the need to drag out that "Sunshine of Your Love" song by Cream. Uggh.


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The actors were all talented and since Wahlberg and Phoenix produced it, i think maybe some favors were owed. The script was shallow and predictable.
If you want to see the best/worst of the Russian mafia see Eastern Promises. That movie was excellent and totally believable.

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I find it interesting people like Eastern Promises better than this, when they let a rat in their fold, just like this, but people only seem to have a problem with it here. And they seem to think the real Russian mafia would have let Naomi Watts live after they know she knew their deeds. Is that what's so believable about that movie?

This movie was believable for sure then.

"Why would a banana grab another banana? Those are the kinds of questions I don't want to answer."

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I totally with you! Most of the movie wasokay. But the ending? OMG Absolutely awful. Sorry I cant remember word for word but roughly: "Im a cop" "No,you're my brother"

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The ending words were, Joseph: "I love you", Bobby:"I love you, too". You REALLY weren't paying attention.

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This was garbage. Very generic and uninspiring. I gave a 4/10 but it might deserve a 3.

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I have to agree with you ventschm. This has to be one of most poorly written scripts I've ever seen. At least it comes across that way on screen. For Phoenix, Duvall and Wahlberg to have signed on, maybe the script reads better than it films. Outside of the character of Bobby, I felt the other characters were very underdeveloped. Let's just say James Gray movies won't be on my list of 'to see' anytime again soon.

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"Huge disappointment and totally ridiculous ending. I cant understand how anyone cant see the stupidity in it (well it is the imdb boards after all so no real surprise here)"

So, you're calling me stupid for liking it? Well, it has a 7.1, so that means there must be enough of us stupid people to balance out the brilliant film connoisseurs like yourself.


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The Centurian: Please hit the correct reply button when responding to a post. I did not call you any names for liking the movie because I did not reply directly to your post. You replied to my post and I only stated my opinion and I did not reference anything regarding IMDB boards. I have great respect for IMDB and the ratings on movies. I don't expect everyone to like what I do and vice versa.

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I'll never get that 90min back. What waste of talent. Story line for a made for TV movie.

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A TV movie, that sounds about accurate.
This movie was just unrealistic in many ways.

In the end when they're about to break up the drug deal, they didn't have anyone covering the back of the building? A group of policemen would never be that stupid.
And Mark Wahlberg's face? Not even a scratch or scar, which was ridiculous considering the bullet went through his cheek and out his jaw, even though that was a stupid story considering the way they showed him getting shot, that bullet wasn't anywhere near his jaw.
And what was with Wahlberg's sudden freak out at the end? That seemed semi-random to me.

And along with this it had all the usual flaws, predictable, slow, and obvious.

Two solid thumbs down.

Oh and I'm a big movie music buff, and this score was not good at all. It was a same low, droning violins with almost no variation, climax or contrast the entire movie.

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And Mark Wahlberg's face? Not even a scratch or scar, which was ridiculous considering the bullet went through his cheek and out his jaw, even though that was a stupid story considering the way they showed him getting shot, that bullet wasn't anywhere near his jaw.
And what was with Wahlberg's sudden freak out at the end? That seemed semi-random to me.

Watch it again, I don't know how anyone can miss that scar. And, you have heard of post-traumatic stress disorder, right? They even talk about it in the movie. I guess any film is disappointing if you aren't paying attention.


"Why would a banana grab another banana? Those are the kinds of questions I don't want to answer."

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Bemore.Thanks for writing the response. I read this poster's remarks last night and was so tired, I didn't respond. I swear 99% of the remarks are based on inattentive viewing.

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Ok.

Jumbo, who's true feelings about Bobby were revealed at the beginning of the film, didn't know Bobby's real last name. They were good time pals, not best friends and confidantes. Amada was the only one who knew Bobby's connection to his police family.

One cop at his brother's celebration recognized him from the old neighborhood. He shook hands with him and asked if he was still a bartender. No hostility there.

The cops in the bar treated him badly because he spit his gum into their faces.

He went undercover only because Vadim invited him to their operation. Some of the officers thought it was a good idea. His father didn't.

Vadim wasn't Mr. Big, yet. He wanted Bobbys connections and wanted to use him to validate himself around town so they could sell their product. He was cautiously trustful due to Bobby's closeness to his uncle. He became suspicious due to Bobby's ineptness.




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Okay, the post-traumatic stress disorder is a logical conclusion. I honestly hadn't thought of that. You're definitely right there.

But you must be on drugs if you for real thought there was any trace of a scar there.

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You do not see this scar on his neck? Seriously?

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terrible is a little too strong of a word. I think it could have done with a fix up with parts of the script.

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I didn't hate this moviewas just kinda dissatisfied. It was really predictable. For example, the part where Joaquin's character picks his "safe" word, feather, I thought to myself'he's gonna say "I'm feeling light as a feather" or something to that affect later on.

This movie wasn't the worst I've seen, just pretty much blah for me. Won't recommend it to anyone, I'm sure.

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Complete and utter *beep* trash. Remember people, fighting drug dealers only increases the price of their drugs and subsequently increases their profits.

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And that has WHAT to do with this film?
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i have to agree, i felt it started off with such promise, greta actors and on paper it should of been better, but it was quite crap to be honest. my main concern is how the hell did marky marks brother get into the police on a temporary position albeit and be allowed carte blanche with the investigation, what about the entrance interviews nand rigouous screening a person ha sto go through to join the police!!!!??? i was left baffled by that decision and after that bit it was all down hill for me. sorry to those who liked it, i realise it was a no brainer film but this was just stretching it a bit far.

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When you put great actors into a goofy story this is what happens. Very disappointed with this retread of a retread that Hollywood has been making since the very beginning of its time. I will recommend this to no one. Best thing aboot it is its title. Pure tripe!

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Just horrendous. What a disappointment.

**Spoiler below***

I laughed so hard at the part where Duvall got shot and Marky Mark breaks the news to his brother by saying "I just had to identify the body." Really? You had to identify the body of the *beep* NYC chief of police who was NOT shot in the face, had his wallet on him, AND was killed during a police escort? That was really necessary? *beep* retarded script.

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What are you, a complete idiot? Legally, a family member has to identify a body. It doesn't matter if the dead person wrote his name in blood on the floor before he died, or his SS# is tattooed on his face, or he's the President. Get into the real world, bucko.


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I never went to see this due to the bad reviews; same reason I didn't rent it at first. Finally decided to watch it after someone who has the same taste in films liked it. The script could have used a little work. Not much but a few lines just didn't ring true. Otherwise I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'm not saying it was a masterpiece but it was a nice surprise. I didn't find it slow or hard to follow. The performances were excellent and most of the scenes were well framed and nicely lit. No complaints here.

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You always have to identify a body, it doesn't matter how "well-known" the deceased is. Seriously, did I really just have to answer that?

Not everyone's going to love any movie, but so often the complaints leveled against this film are sostupid. People say it's so unbelievable, when actually most of it real-life based, and the rest is at the least, plausible. People complain about the writing, there are a few bumps here and there, but that's what makes it real. Do you listen to Oscar winning films? They may sound good, but NO ONE talks like that. The dialogue here was at times unnecessary, at times repetitive, at times simple and un-inspiringjust like real life.

I thought Joaquin was phenomenal, the score was fantastic, several scenes are truly exceptional and, unusually, this film had a grand scope, it was weighty, and had a lot of heart. You can't say that about many films these days.

"Why would a banana grab another banana? Those are the kinds of questions I don't want to answer."

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