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Its a Acura RXL. Cant tell you the year though
http://www.acura.com/ExteriorColor.aspx?model=RLX&modelYear=2015
http://www.acura.com/ExteriorColor.aspx?model=RLX&modelYear=2015
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Definitely an Acura. Probably the RLX - either 2014 or 2015.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_RLX#mediaviewer/File:2014_Acura_RLX _in_black.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_RLX#mediaviewer/File:2014_Acura_RLX _in_black.jpg
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Thanks. It's a nice looking car. Any idea which cars it's competing with? It's on a higher level than the Toyota Camry or the Mazda6 or the Nissan Altima, so it can't be those.
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Acura doesn't sell many of their cars compared to the competition. One of the reasons is that they are in a weird sort of niche with this vehicle.
It is Acura's "flagship luxury sedan". Which would mean that in theory it competes with the Infiniti Q70, Lexus LS, Mercedes S-Class, BMW 7-series, Audi A8, Maserati Ghibli, Jaguar XJ and Chrysler 300. In practice, however, it cannot compete with those cars because it hasn't got a rear-wheel drive chassis. It is a front-wheel drive design with an option to send some power to the rear wheels if the front-wheels slip (similar to VW's 4Motion system). People who buy those sorts of cars expect the dynamics of a rear-drive chassis (with an option for AWD) - whether they say so or not. That is a major aspect of what most people mean when they talk about the "feel" of a luxury car.
In the real world, it competes with the Toyota Avalon/Lexus ES, the Cadillac XTS, the Hyundai Azera and other such vehicles but it is significantly more expensive than most of its competition.
So, Acura's customers are relatively limited basically they fall into two basic categories:
1. People who used to drive a Honda and now make enough money that they are willing and able to pay for something with a little more exclusivity but want the comfort of sticking with the brand - like when people "graduate" from Toyota to Lexus or Volkswagen to Audi or Audi to Bentley.
2. People who like how it looks - the extreme "Japaneseness" of it.
The Acura RLX isn't a bad car. If you can afford one and if you like the quirky styling, you will get a reliable and well-made car that will probably be inexpensive to service on the infrequent occasions when something does go wrong.
It depends on what you value in a car. If you like a car for the way it looks (and there's nothing wrong with that) then go for it. If you want something that is exciting to drive and will make your heart beat faster when hustling you down a twisty country road on a sunny weekend afternoon you should probably look somewhere else.
I haven't driven the second-generation Hyundai Genesis yet but if I was looking for a vehicle in this segment, that's probably where I'd start. It has AWD if you want it (though, if AWD is a big thing for you, I'd recommend looking at a Subaru Legacy) and Hyundai asked the British engineering firm Lotus to improve the car's handling and ride over the first generation. If you're a car-geek, there is nobody in the world better at this sort of thing than Lotus - they are the masters of handling.
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It is Acura's "flagship luxury sedan". Which would mean that in theory it competes with the Infiniti Q70, Lexus LS, Mercedes S-Class, BMW 7-series, Audi A8, Maserati Ghibli, Jaguar XJ and Chrysler 300. In practice, however, it cannot compete with those cars because it hasn't got a rear-wheel drive chassis. It is a front-wheel drive design with an option to send some power to the rear wheels if the front-wheels slip (similar to VW's 4Motion system). People who buy those sorts of cars expect the dynamics of a rear-drive chassis (with an option for AWD) - whether they say so or not. That is a major aspect of what most people mean when they talk about the "feel" of a luxury car.
In the real world, it competes with the Toyota Avalon/Lexus ES, the Cadillac XTS, the Hyundai Azera and other such vehicles but it is significantly more expensive than most of its competition.
So, Acura's customers are relatively limited basically they fall into two basic categories:
1. People who used to drive a Honda and now make enough money that they are willing and able to pay for something with a little more exclusivity but want the comfort of sticking with the brand - like when people "graduate" from Toyota to Lexus or Volkswagen to Audi or Audi to Bentley.
2. People who like how it looks - the extreme "Japaneseness" of it.
The Acura RLX isn't a bad car. If you can afford one and if you like the quirky styling, you will get a reliable and well-made car that will probably be inexpensive to service on the infrequent occasions when something does go wrong.
It depends on what you value in a car. If you like a car for the way it looks (and there's nothing wrong with that) then go for it. If you want something that is exciting to drive and will make your heart beat faster when hustling you down a twisty country road on a sunny weekend afternoon you should probably look somewhere else.
I haven't driven the second-generation Hyundai Genesis yet but if I was looking for a vehicle in this segment, that's probably where I'd start. It has AWD if you want it (though, if AWD is a big thing for you, I'd recommend looking at a Subaru Legacy) and Hyundai asked the British engineering firm Lotus to improve the car's handling and ride over the first generation. If you're a car-geek, there is nobody in the world better at this sort of thing than Lotus - they are the masters of handling.
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Thanks a lot for all that info. Appreciate it.
By the way, you mentioned these cars: Infiniti Q70, Lexus LS, Mercedes S-Class, BMW 7-series, Audi A8, Maserati Ghibli, Jaguar XJ and Chrysler 300. I'm curiousif you had to choose one from the list, which would it be, and why? Also, how would you rank them?
By the way, you mentioned these cars: Infiniti Q70, Lexus LS, Mercedes S-Class, BMW 7-series, Audi A8, Maserati Ghibli, Jaguar XJ and Chrysler 300. I'm curiousif you had to choose one from the list, which would it be, and why? Also, how would you rank them?
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They each have their pros and cons. I'll list them each briefly in the order you gave.
1. Q70. If you are a techie, this is probably your best bet. Infiniti tends to push the envelope when it comes to technology more than the rest of the Japanese manufacturers. More of a "driver's car" than the typical Japanese offering. On the downside, the styling isn't for everyone and they are definitely an "outside the box" choice. That is, if you want to blend in with the crowd, you will likely want something else.
2. Lexus LS. The exact opposite of the Q70. More conservative when it comes to technology and more geared for comfort than driving excitement. If your idea of bliss is driving a sensory-deprivation tank down the road The LS might be just the ticket. On the downside, if you're the kind of person who wants to stand out from the crowd, you won't do it in this car.
3. S-Class. The gold standard for European luxury. A sensible balance between cutting-edge and "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" conservatism. Not a "drivers car" but also not a numb limo. Reliable but when something does break, you'd better be prepared to pay big bucks for replacement parts.
4. BMW 7-Series. Less of a driver's car than the rest of BMW's offerings but more than anything offered by Mercedes. Never been a big fan of the big Beemer but not for any reason I can really name. There isn't anything actually wrong with it in my view but neither is there anything especially right with it.
5. Audi A8. My personal favorite of the Germans. More of a driver's car than the other two and with a better AWD system (if that matters to you). They're also top-notch when it comes to electronic gizmos (the night-vision system option in the A8 is a nerd's dream). The downside? You might weary of being asked why you bought an Audi instead of a BMW or a Mercedes - especially if you live somewhere that doesn't get a lot of snow.
6. Maserati Ghibli. The Italians are trying to move downmarket and upmarket at the same time. Maserati was traditionally part of the "supercar" market - they sold cars that cost as much as many people's homes and they were handmade by artisans (i.e. they cost a fortune to fix when they went wrong). Essentially, the Italian answer to British companies like Aston Martin or Bentley. Then they were bought by FIAT. FIAT realized that they did well in the mass market with the FIAT and Alfa-Romeo brands and with the Maserati and Ferrari brands, they had the top-end all to themselves but there was nothing in the middle. So some bright-spark in marketing decided to offer an "affordable" Maserati. The Ghibli is basically a Chrysler 300 chassis with Maserati body panels, interior and drive-train. So if you fancy driving around in something with an exotic badge, body and interior but don't want to spend a fortune on service, then the Ghibli might be just the ticket. The downside? Good luck finding a dealership.
7. Jaguar XJ. I'll state my bias up-front. This is my personal favorite of the bunch and I've always had a soft-spot for the folks from Coventry. Jaguar has arguably done the best job of anyone here (even better than Audi) of balancing sport and comfort. If what you want is a whisper-quiet limo to carry you and three friends somewhere in unspeakable comfort the XJ is for you. If you want something that you can fling around corners on country roads on the weekend and feel like a hooligan? The XJ will do that too. If you go for the supercharged versions, you will find yourself in a car that is not only supremely comfortable but will embarrass a Porsche 911 when called upon to do so. The downside? You'll get tired of people asking you if it is reliable. Jaguars are very reliable but they haven't done a good job of shedding their past reputation. I've owned three and none of them have disappointed me. Plus, I'm a big fan of wood trim and nobody does wood trim like the Brits.
8. Chrysler 300. I've had several as rentals and I've liked all of them. They drive wonderfully and there's really nothing wrong with them apart from the faint whiff of "old man's car" about them. If you're on a tight budget, you'll probably get more bang for your buck here than with anything else on the list. On the other hand, if you want to be different you won't be in this one. This is probably the best-selling car Chrysler has ever made (though for good reason).
The only thing I would add to your list is the Hyundai Genesis. People laugh at the idea of a $50k Hyundai (they start in the low 40s but you'd have to be mental to buy a base model - there are way too many cool options) until they drive one. Then they realize that even though $50k might be a lot for a Hyundai, you'd have to spend at least $10k more (more likely $20k or $30k) to get a comparable car from anyone else. And for those who are badge-snobs, the dealer will take the Hyundai badge off and replace it with a "Genesis" badge that looks a little like the Bentley logo.
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1. Q70. If you are a techie, this is probably your best bet. Infiniti tends to push the envelope when it comes to technology more than the rest of the Japanese manufacturers. More of a "driver's car" than the typical Japanese offering. On the downside, the styling isn't for everyone and they are definitely an "outside the box" choice. That is, if you want to blend in with the crowd, you will likely want something else.
2. Lexus LS. The exact opposite of the Q70. More conservative when it comes to technology and more geared for comfort than driving excitement. If your idea of bliss is driving a sensory-deprivation tank down the road The LS might be just the ticket. On the downside, if you're the kind of person who wants to stand out from the crowd, you won't do it in this car.
3. S-Class. The gold standard for European luxury. A sensible balance between cutting-edge and "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" conservatism. Not a "drivers car" but also not a numb limo. Reliable but when something does break, you'd better be prepared to pay big bucks for replacement parts.
4. BMW 7-Series. Less of a driver's car than the rest of BMW's offerings but more than anything offered by Mercedes. Never been a big fan of the big Beemer but not for any reason I can really name. There isn't anything actually wrong with it in my view but neither is there anything especially right with it.
5. Audi A8. My personal favorite of the Germans. More of a driver's car than the other two and with a better AWD system (if that matters to you). They're also top-notch when it comes to electronic gizmos (the night-vision system option in the A8 is a nerd's dream). The downside? You might weary of being asked why you bought an Audi instead of a BMW or a Mercedes - especially if you live somewhere that doesn't get a lot of snow.
6. Maserati Ghibli. The Italians are trying to move downmarket and upmarket at the same time. Maserati was traditionally part of the "supercar" market - they sold cars that cost as much as many people's homes and they were handmade by artisans (i.e. they cost a fortune to fix when they went wrong). Essentially, the Italian answer to British companies like Aston Martin or Bentley. Then they were bought by FIAT. FIAT realized that they did well in the mass market with the FIAT and Alfa-Romeo brands and with the Maserati and Ferrari brands, they had the top-end all to themselves but there was nothing in the middle. So some bright-spark in marketing decided to offer an "affordable" Maserati. The Ghibli is basically a Chrysler 300 chassis with Maserati body panels, interior and drive-train. So if you fancy driving around in something with an exotic badge, body and interior but don't want to spend a fortune on service, then the Ghibli might be just the ticket. The downside? Good luck finding a dealership.
7. Jaguar XJ. I'll state my bias up-front. This is my personal favorite of the bunch and I've always had a soft-spot for the folks from Coventry. Jaguar has arguably done the best job of anyone here (even better than Audi) of balancing sport and comfort. If what you want is a whisper-quiet limo to carry you and three friends somewhere in unspeakable comfort the XJ is for you. If you want something that you can fling around corners on country roads on the weekend and feel like a hooligan? The XJ will do that too. If you go for the supercharged versions, you will find yourself in a car that is not only supremely comfortable but will embarrass a Porsche 911 when called upon to do so. The downside? You'll get tired of people asking you if it is reliable. Jaguars are very reliable but they haven't done a good job of shedding their past reputation. I've owned three and none of them have disappointed me. Plus, I'm a big fan of wood trim and nobody does wood trim like the Brits.
8. Chrysler 300. I've had several as rentals and I've liked all of them. They drive wonderfully and there's really nothing wrong with them apart from the faint whiff of "old man's car" about them. If you're on a tight budget, you'll probably get more bang for your buck here than with anything else on the list. On the other hand, if you want to be different you won't be in this one. This is probably the best-selling car Chrysler has ever made (though for good reason).
The only thing I would add to your list is the Hyundai Genesis. People laugh at the idea of a $50k Hyundai (they start in the low 40s but you'd have to be mental to buy a base model - there are way too many cool options) until they drive one. Then they realize that even though $50k might be a lot for a Hyundai, you'd have to spend at least $10k more (more likely $20k or $30k) to get a comparable car from anyone else. And for those who are badge-snobs, the dealer will take the Hyundai badge off and replace it with a "Genesis" badge that looks a little like the Bentley logo.
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Nice! Thanks again. A friend of mine is looking to buy a new Mercedes and has had the CLS in mind for a while. But he saw the Audi A7 recently and loved it, and now is having trouble deciding. He loves the Mercedes brand and all that, but he really like the look of the A7. I was showing him the BMW 6 Series the other day and he liked its look too. If I were him, though, I'd choose the BMW out of the three. I've always been a beemer fan. Which would you choose?
Also, do you agree with the saying that the Range Rover is the king of SUVs?
Also, do you agree with the saying that the Range Rover is the king of SUVs?
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Of the three, I prefer Audi.
BMW quality has taken a bit of a downhill slide over the last few decades. The company most people know as BMW was created by two brothers called Harald and Herbert Quandt. The company had been around for ages, but management had run it into the ground. It was rescued it from bankruptcy by the Quandts in the early 1960s.
However, they died in the 1980s and the company has stayed in the family but the various political squabbles between the heirs who inherited the money but not the passion for the car business that Harald and Herbert had.
As a result, the quality and innovation for which BMW was famous in their heyday has gradually been whittled away by accountants and family squabbling. BMW used to be the stereotypical "engineer's car". I think Audi has taken that crown away from them.
In my opinion, the only BMWs left today that have a bit of the "old spark" in them are the "M" cars (they're built by a separate division within BMW to a much higher standard than their mass-production vehicles). If your friend wants a 6-series, he should go for an M6 - otherwise I would suggest he not bother.
As for the A7. I don't personally care for the "fastback" style - if I were buying a car like that, I'd get the A8 instead but the only difference (so far as I know anyway) is the body. Same chassis, same engine, same features. Though, if I had the money, I'd buy the S8 because it has one of the best V8 engines for sale on the planet right now. Though, honestly, if I had the money to buy a new S8 I'd probably buy a used Bentley instead. But that's just me.
As for Land Rover. I don't like SUVs. I never have and probably never will. It is a personal thing. I don't drive off-road (which is the only sensible reason anyone would buy an SUV) and I don't like the high driving positions that SUVs have. I am known to say "I don't like driving while standing up".
Having said that, if someone put a gun to my head and made me buy one, I would buy a Land Rover of some sort. Partially because they are owned by Jaguar and partially because there is a reason why the Land Rover is an icon of off-road driving why so many people who drive seriously off-road in places like Africa wouldn't be caught dead in anything but a Land Rover.
The Range Rover model is, I suppose, one of the automotive icons of the world - along with things like the Porsche 911, the Mazda Miata, Volkswagen Beetle and the Ford Crown Victoria (and did you ever think you'd hear those four vehicles mentioned in the same sentence?)
But, just because something is an icon, that doesn't mean I want one.
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BMW quality has taken a bit of a downhill slide over the last few decades. The company most people know as BMW was created by two brothers called Harald and Herbert Quandt. The company had been around for ages, but management had run it into the ground. It was rescued it from bankruptcy by the Quandts in the early 1960s.
However, they died in the 1980s and the company has stayed in the family but the various political squabbles between the heirs who inherited the money but not the passion for the car business that Harald and Herbert had.
As a result, the quality and innovation for which BMW was famous in their heyday has gradually been whittled away by accountants and family squabbling. BMW used to be the stereotypical "engineer's car". I think Audi has taken that crown away from them.
In my opinion, the only BMWs left today that have a bit of the "old spark" in them are the "M" cars (they're built by a separate division within BMW to a much higher standard than their mass-production vehicles). If your friend wants a 6-series, he should go for an M6 - otherwise I would suggest he not bother.
As for the A7. I don't personally care for the "fastback" style - if I were buying a car like that, I'd get the A8 instead but the only difference (so far as I know anyway) is the body. Same chassis, same engine, same features. Though, if I had the money, I'd buy the S8 because it has one of the best V8 engines for sale on the planet right now. Though, honestly, if I had the money to buy a new S8 I'd probably buy a used Bentley instead. But that's just me.
As for Land Rover. I don't like SUVs. I never have and probably never will. It is a personal thing. I don't drive off-road (which is the only sensible reason anyone would buy an SUV) and I don't like the high driving positions that SUVs have. I am known to say "I don't like driving while standing up".
Having said that, if someone put a gun to my head and made me buy one, I would buy a Land Rover of some sort. Partially because they are owned by Jaguar and partially because there is a reason why the Land Rover is an icon of off-road driving why so many people who drive seriously off-road in places like Africa wouldn't be caught dead in anything but a Land Rover.
The Range Rover model is, I suppose, one of the automotive icons of the world - along with things like the Porsche 911, the Mazda Miata, Volkswagen Beetle and the Ford Crown Victoria (and did you ever think you'd hear those four vehicles mentioned in the same sentence?)
But, just because something is an icon, that doesn't mean I want one.
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Happy to help. Yeah, I'm a car geek.
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I agree on the Audis, but with one caveat: I don't like Audis that start with an "A" - I have an S5 and prefer the coupe, but the RS7 is a beast, too.
On a side note, I just test drove a Jaguar F Type R this evening, and that car actually made me consider switching from Audi (longtime VW/Audi enthusiast). The car is ridiculously fast and the '16 models are going to have AWD, which is my only knock on the one I test drove - I took off from a stop and spun the tires a bit. My S5 has launch control and a few after market enhancements to make it pretty froggy, but that F Type R was sick.
I've NEVER been a Jag fan because of the bad rep they built for themselves, but I'll admit I was pretty impressed. Going to start researching them a little more now and then consider upgrading.
On a side note, I just test drove a Jaguar F Type R this evening, and that car actually made me consider switching from Audi (longtime VW/Audi enthusiast). The car is ridiculously fast and the '16 models are going to have AWD, which is my only knock on the one I test drove - I took off from a stop and spun the tires a bit. My S5 has launch control and a few after market enhancements to make it pretty froggy, but that F Type R was sick.
I've NEVER been a Jag fan because of the bad rep they built for themselves, but I'll admit I was pretty impressed. Going to start researching them a little more now and then consider upgrading.
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I've NEVER been a Jag fan because of the bad rep they built for themselves
That "bad rep" is well earned.
Stick with Audi or if you really want the best [Euro-] "upgrade" possible for your money, go with a Porsche.
They say genius skips a generation. Mom's a genius, so I guess I'm a genius too
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That "bad rep" is well earned.
News flash: It isn't 1978 anymore.
Stick with Audi
Audi has their share of issues. Talk to people who don't use full synthetic oil on their VW/Audi engines.
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I just test drove a Jaguar F Type R this evening, and that car actually made me consider switching from Audi (longtime VW/Audi enthusiast). The car is ridiculously fast and the '16 models are going to have AWD, which is my only knock on the one I test drove - I took off from a stop and spun the tires a bit. My S5 has launch control and a few after market enhancements to make it pretty froggy, but that F Type R was sick.
I've heard the same about the F-type - that it will be offered with AWD in the future. However, at least currently, Jaguar only offers AWD on their V6 engines. The V8 may be too long and/or too powerful for the AWD hardware to be added. I understand the plan is to offer the AWD system with the V8 powered cars in future but I'll believe it when I see it.
I've NEVER been a Jag fan because of the bad rep they built for themselves
I assume you're talking about the reputation for poor build-quality and reliability? Those issued were addressed in the late 1970s. However, news travels slowly in the automotive world. I've owned three different Jaguars so far in my life and every single one of them has been extremely reliable. My first, a 1995 XJR was absolutely bulletproof. Other than tires, brakes and an occasional battery, all I did to it was routine service. My second was a 2000 XK8. I had a couple of minor, non-routine issues with it but both could have been avoided if I'd paid closer attention to the enthusiast web-sites. If I bought another one today, I'd follow enthusiast recommendations and use waterless coolant to prevent issues with plastic components in the cooling system cracking under pressure and I'd do the aftermarket upgrade on the hydraulic top mechanism to prevent pressure-spikes and the ruptures.
My last was a 2005 XJ Vanden Plas and it was bulletproof - until some black ice sent me into a tree.
The only downside of modern Jaguars (though I suspect they aren't along in this) is the difficulty in upgrading the factory audio/nav systems. Evidently they use some very proprietary technology. I wanted to upgrade my 2005 XJ's stereo so it could handle MP3s but found it would be extremely expensive and time-consuming to do so.
Note to Jaguar: there's money to be made selling tech upgrades to existing owners.
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Well, according to the dealership, the V8 models will have AWD next year. He said they already have some sitting at the ports but they're not expecting to be able to offer them until May at the very earliest. . .
And I'm sorry to tell you, but Jags had issues later than the 70's. . . a buddy of mine got burned buying one in the 80's and after his car developed problems, he started hearing from others who had the same issues (transmission was the worst problem part for him). Remember, they didn't have the internet back then where people could share the info quickly and easily, so of course he didn't hear bad stuff about the model he bought until well after he bought it. And when Ford bought them they had some models that were basically Ford cars. . . not impressive.
And I'm sorry to tell you, but Jags had issues later than the 70's. . . a buddy of mine got burned buying one in the 80's and after his car developed problems, he started hearing from others who had the same issues (transmission was the worst problem part for him). Remember, they didn't have the internet back then where people could share the info quickly and easily, so of course he didn't hear bad stuff about the model he bought until well after he bought it. And when Ford bought them they had some models that were basically Ford cars. . . not impressive.
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a buddy of mine got burned buying one in the 80's and after his car developed problems, he started hearing from others who had the same issues (transmission was the worst problem part for him).
Yes, there was a time when Jaguar bought transmissions from GM. Eventually, they came to their senses and starting getting them from ZF and the problems went away.
By the time Sir John Egan sorted Jaguars issues in the late 70s and early 80s (the main problems were Lucas ignition and electrical components as well as paint application issues that led to rust), Jaguar could stand toe-to-toe with their German contemporaries. That's why Ford bought them.
And when Ford bought them they had some models that were basically Ford cars. . . not impressive.
Yes, the X-type and the S-type were less impressive (both inside and out) than the "proper Jaguar" models like the XK and XJ. Still, they weren't bad cars. The X-type was based on the Ford Mondeo which was a great car (though only available in Europe).
The only real problem was with the Ford V6 engines and the electrolytic corrosion that occurred on key contacts with the throttle-bodies. Jaguar insisted on using gold-plated contacts but the Ford units used a different metal (silver or aluminum, I think) and the result was a gradual corrosion that resulted in intermittent contact between the ECU and the throttle body. After a while, your "check engine" light would come on and your mechanic would advise you that you needed to replace the entire throttle-body for a couple grand.
However, since Ford bought them, they replaced the S-type with the XF - which was unique to Jaguar. They discontinued the X-type entirely. Though Tata has decided to replace it with the XE which looks very sweet indeed. I wonder if they'll offer the 70mpg diesel version in the US.
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Anybody know what car this is?
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