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Will Russia invade Ukraine?

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Biden warns there will be “severe” penalties for Russia if they do this. Whatever that means. Probably sanctions. Oh no

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I do think American involvement in an Eastern European war is not a good idea. But I wonder what the geopolitical ramifications of American inaction might be. Where it concerns negotiations with other world powers, American military might and influence is a huge factor. If Russia annexes more land without American resistance, it could undermine American influence elsewhere. Still, I don’t think war is a preferential outcome.

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War is the only option.

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Weakest President since Carter.

Russia invades Ukraine. We "respond", probably mean words and usrless sanctions.

China then invades Taiwan. We should respond but we don't. More mean words and useless sanctions.

Iran does something dastardly, but probably not against Israel because the Israelis would wipe their asses out. Wagging of thw finger ensues.

Now we are either stretched thin because most of the male population of military age are soft ass pansies incapable of service or we lose tons of credibility because the CIC is incapable of command.

No one was hurt by a tweet today though! People like Anthony, Adam, and others can breathe a sigh of relief and lower the covers from their eyes. Whew!

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"Weakest President since Carter."

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When it comes to dealing with Vladimir Putin and Russia, I think that Joe Biden has so far been doing a better job than Donald Trump did.

I am glad that Biden has been standing up to Putin and not taking any of his BS instead of bowing down and kissing Putin's @$$ like Trump always did.

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Anthony, you are wrong and a growing number of people on all sides are saying that Biden is terrible and getting worse.

Also, go ahead and spell it out. FiBo doesn't censor "ass."

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Well, You are definitely 100 percent entitled to your own thoughts, views, feelings, and opinions on the subject.

I myself am entitled to my own thoughts, views, feelings, and opinions on this subject as well and I definitely do not think that I am wrong. I do think that Joe Biden has been dealing with Vladimir Putin and Russia better than Donald Trump did.

Having said that, I definitely hope that we will not end up going to war with Russia but I am still glad that Biden has been standing up to Putin and not taking any of his BS.

When it comes to Joe Biden, Trump supporters always like to call him "Sleepy Joe" and say "Let's Go Brandon!" but I myself won't. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Biden and I like the fact that he always stands up to the bad guys and does not take any BS from them.

In 2020, Joe Biden had the guts during that mess of a First Presidential Debate between him and Donald Trump to actually tell a sitting President in person to "shut up" which I liked and as I said before, Biden has been standing up to Vladimir Putin and not taking any of his BS and I like that as well.

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A bit reactionary.

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No, hypothesizing for discussion purposes.

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Joe said war is definitely not an option.

I don’t know much about Russian geopolitics but I suspect this factors in to Putin’s long game plan for Russian survival. If annexing Ukraine means preserving Russian blood and the west isn’t willing to spill its own blood to stop them, Putin will definitely strike.

Cheerio.

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Useless, absolutely not. It appears that way from our view but it definitely has a strong penalty I gather. If it were so useless he wouldve been long evaded.

Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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I don't see the point in arming Ukraine, that will only cause more bloodshed. I wonder how long Ukraine could realistically hold Russia off. Better that it's all over swiftly. Also sending in troops from Britain/US is very risky, that could bring them into direct conflict with Russian troops, no one needs that drama.

Also, the US is only making conflict more likely with these provocations, if Russian troops turn around and go home now, it's going to look like cowardice.

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You advocate for Ukraine getting crushed swiftly?

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How is it possible for a Brit to be this pathetic? What's happened to your country? You used to have principles and a stomach for standing up to bullies.

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Not long. Russia is overwhelmingly more powerful, wealthier, and has far more and better troops.

The point of arming Ukraine would be deterrence. Russia would fight the US if it needed to but the US is vastly more powerful. It would make the prospect of invasion infinitely less attractive to Russia for there to be US troops. And absent US troops, arming them makes the prospect of invasion trickier.

It’s the same in principle as invading a country with a heavily armed population. You may not like guns but they make it harder to rule a population.

Cheerio.

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Biden sort of okayed a little invasion so maybe that will happen like they did in Georgia but even that wouldn't seem an advantageous move. I don't think they want to take over Ukraine because it would only be a burden. The country is a basket case.

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Lol Biden is another sell out, probably got told by Putin that his sons oil interests will be safe. That's what happens when the US elects shamless politicians.

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They already have.

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Is this confirmed? They had operatives in Ukraine for years doing weird shit to destabilize things. That’s not necessarily an invasion, not officially

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Only thing is Putin has just 100k troops on the border if a country that has 200k soldiers. He doesn’t have the manpower mobilized yet to invade.

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Have you any idea if they are still planning a Chernobyl entry? I do not like that.

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That worries me. Massive vehicles churning up that soil is not a great idea. Also, those buildings harbor a ton of radiation. Too many issues there.

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I also thought that. Even rifle fire. Anything in that area is bad. Many countries worked to make it as stable as can be.

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They would be better off securing the area around it. Concrete walls, steel bars in the ground etc. Hold them in the dead zone as long as possible. Although, i believe it is a ruse. I don't think they will come that way.

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What constitutes a formal invasion? If the invader owns up to it?

Russian military are already inside Ukraine. Russian agents are already inside the Ukrainian government.

Pay attention, because this is how the rest of the west will fall. Until there's barely anything left of it, at which point communism will feel like the only democratic option as countries politically align with the only remaining super powers, as has traditionally been the case. The only reason democracy feels global is because the British, then the Americans, spread it.

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They’ve been “inside Ukraine” for years. Guess this “news” isn’t news.

What is news is Putin has 100k troops amassed in their border. What’s happening with them?

The distinction is fairly obvious.

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Not really,

He is warning them like he did in the middle east. These are not their country so you cant expect them to fully protect them. This is fair and just. If you get killed, you were warned.

Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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I don't understand your point.

Russia invaded Ukraine quite some time ago. Wars aren't fought with soldiers anymore. There's no need.

This mass of troops and tanks is simply a bargaining tool. Once he rolls into Kiev, the west will do a deal, and Ukraine will hold an election, which a pro-Russian candidate will win. Ukraine will then align itself with Russia and the west will accuse Russia of corruption but ultimately just go back to pretending communism isn't the most influential political ideology on the planet.

If you're under 40, one day you'll be governed by a global, authoritarian, communist regime, even worse than the one described in 1984. It's inevitable.

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That's some Hard Drugs.

Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
Without strife, you do not advance.
Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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Looks as though they will

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Does Ukraine have nukes? I heard there were a lot of warheads unaccounted for after the break-up of the Soviet Union.
Russian oligarchs (and Putin) must have a lot of assets outside Russia that could potentially be seized.
About the US and China, though… China can defeat the USA without firing a shot. We hardly make anything in North America anymore, and the stuff that is still made here depends on components or ingredients from China. Stopping exports will hurt China too, but their citizens can't vote.

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They destroyed their nuclear weapons.

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I think invasion is on the cards

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God I hope so
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