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When did the '80s end for you?

I know the '80s technically ended on December 31, 1989. But when did the '80s end for you? I felt like the '80s ended when I heard that Prince passed away.

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I feel the same as you.

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Probably in the early 90s.

Grunge music exploded onto the scene. Big/long hair got cut short, and guys started sporting goatees. Big curly hair on girls got replaced by straight hair. Bright-colored clothes, shoulder pads, sunglasses went away. Flannel shirts came in. Etc, etc.

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You mean the mid '90s, not the early '90s.

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You mean the mid '90s, not the early '90s
No, I mean the early 90s. Smells Like Teen Spirit was released in the early 90s, and the pop culture change snowballed from there. Music, clothes, hairstyles hadn't significantly changed until the mid 90s, but the process started in the early 90s.

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I got your back Paul. Definitely the early 90s. Grunge was '91 and then really took bloom in '92. And I would say that is when the 80s ended for me as well. The bright colors were gone and hair metal was struck down. Now you had to wear depressing clothing and act like you didn't give a damn. I gather some people were in some bubble or in a coma for all these yrs if it just ended for them recently. I still keep the 80s in my heart, but it definitely ended so to speak a couple yrs in the new decade.

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The music scene was definitely a big shift. I mean, think about it....who doesn't hear something like Warrant's "Cherry Pie" and get instantly transported back to the 80s?!

The song was released in late 1990, however.

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Hair metal was struck down in '92?

The hair metal group Mr. Big still went to number one on the Billboard Hot 100 charts with their single "To Be With You" in March of 1992.

FireHouse won the award for Favorite Heavy Metal/Hard Rock New Artist at the 1992 American Music Awards.

Did you know that?

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I didn't mention when hair metal was struck down exactly. I just know that grunge took over in the early 90s. Some hair metal may have survived for a few yrs after that. But it was flannel all they way before that happened.

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Thanks, speedy1383.

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Bright colors were not gone in 1992. Surfstyle and Oakley jackets were released in that year.

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I was in college at the time. Definitely gone where I was at.

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At what point did that happen? In the fall of '92 or the spring of '92?

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"Smells Like Teen Spirit" was released in the fall of '91, but the change did not happen overnight like so many '80s fans would have you believe. 1993 was the year of grunge, not '91 or '92.

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I agree that the change was gradual (which I'd already indicated in my last post), but the change-process started in the early 90s. Yes, there was still plenty of "big hair" bands in the early 90s, but grunge music had already started with the huge popularity of "Smells Like Teen Spirit".

Even if you wanted to argue that the change didn't really start until 1993, that's still qualifies as early 90s in my book.

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'93 was the first year of the mid '90s in my book. The change-process that started in the early '90s, like you mentioned, was over on December 31, 1992. In '93, I.O.U. And Generra sweaters were no longer popular. It was the end of an era for me.

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Yes. That was released in '91. Nevermind rose to #1 in early '92. The explosion of grunge came in '92 no doubt led by Nirvana. Pearl Jam was soon after. They released Ten in '91 and it broke big in '92. STP and Alice in Chains both released their breakthrough albums in '92. So everything came together that yr. Like I said in the other post, hair metal did suffer because of it. And there was a lot of crappy hair metal bands out there, so that didn't help either.

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Just went and visited the eighties at the movies this weekend. I saw the reissue of "Purple Rain" and the new release of "Everybody Wants Some".

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For me it ended when gangsta rap started dominating the charts, let's say 1993 or so. I preferred the happier and more optimistic rap music of the 80s.

Same thing happened in arcades. In the 80s they were packed with fun games full of silly characters. By about 1993 the majority of games were kill the drug dealer fighting games.

I started bringing the 80s back for myself in 2015. For at least a year now I've been revisiting 80s pop music and movies regularly. It makes me happy.

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For me it ended when gangsta rap started dominating the charts, let's say 1993 or so.

Same here, it always seems like the previous decade ends on or about the third year. For example, 1993 is when the '80s ended for me, 2003 is when the '90s ended, etc.

When people stopped wearing bright neon colors, I really felt like the '80s essentially came to an end. We had better gaming consoles (R.I.P. NES), personal computers and the Internet were starting to become the norm, technology seemed to be advancing at a faster pace (digitization), and certain terms/expressions we used to say would most likely not be heard and/or used, not to mention the music was also changing.

I was sad to see it go, but was even worse when the '90s ended. We were in the age of technology and there was no looking back by 2003.

Edit: Yeah, I would have to agree that the '90s ended on 9/11/2001. The rest of my post is still relevant to my opinion.

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They NEVER ended, baby!


Just kidding. I graduated high school in the late 80s, so to me, things changed so gradually from, say, 1988 to 1992 or so. Seems like there was a period in the early to mid-90s where I knew the '80s - as a concept - was definitely out. I may have been more conscious of this because I mostly hated the 80s! (the pop trends, anyway. I was otherwise a pretty happy camper)

Change generally is so gradually perceived it's a very, very hard thing to quantify. When you're a kid, it's much more drastic because your body & mind are changing so much in what are actually very short periods of time (2-3 years, for instance, can mark major differences). When you're older, time goes by so quickly.....for me, the late '90s till today are really just one, big blur. Not that I've forgotten everything. My memory is very good. It's just that it all seems like one general period.

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Pretty sure the 80's ended at midnite on 21-31-1989

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Pretty sure the 80's ended at midnite on 12-31-1989

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Oh affff.... The "feel" of a decade, the things that define a decade, do not instantly start on January 1st of the first year and they don't magically end on December 31st of the last year. That's not how it works.

The OP touched on that in the original post.

We know the 80s ended on December 31st, 1989. We're adults, we know what calendars are. We're talking about when the vibe of the 80s ended for each of us and that's an answer that is going to be different for each person.

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I agree with you. The '80s ended for most people at midnight on December 31st of '89.

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Why are you choosing to be grody to the max instead of being totally tubular?

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They NEVER ended, baby!


I'm with you. lol

I agree it was a gradual change. I remember getting my first CD player in 1992. I bought it was babysitting money. I don't remember how much it cost but it was a lot. I then started using CDs instead of tapes. Not long after that the internet started coming to life. AOL was the way to get online and soon there was email and chatting. Life started moving in cyber space. It was a whole new experience.

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1994




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around 1994 for me.

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I don't really remember the early 80s because I was just a baby. The late 80s and early 90s, I sort of lump together as my childhood. Like maybe 1987-1992. I consider all of that one era of my life, basically. Then the mid 90s would be my junior high/middle school years, and the late 90s my high school/teenage years.

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I don't really remember the early 80s because I was just a baby. The late 80s and early 90s, I sort of lump together as my childhood. Like maybe 1987-1992. I consider all of that one era of my life, basically. Then the mid 90s would be my junior high/middle school years, and the late 90s my high school/teenage years.


same here.




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When did the '80s end for you?


When the rest of the planet joined Lisa Bonet in realizing that Dr. Hucksterablel was not only overhyped but a creep of gargantuan proportions

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For me it was Fall of 93, I started 7th grade and most of the kids in my school had completely moved on from 80's pop stuff and gangsta rap became the social standard and style.

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1990 to 1991... Student at The University of Florida... 80s were great but I loved the 90s too...

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When I realized Madanna was lame.



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Mid to Late 1993 felt like the death of the 80's

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How about when Johnny Carson left the Tonight Show?

Sure, he had been hosting long before the 80's, but it certainly was a big change in the times when he left. And then Letterman went to CBS.etc etc etc

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Speedy1383 has it basically right. It was the end of 1991. That was the beginning of the end of the 80s. For about a year and a half after that it was kind of a nowhere land--not quite the 80's but not yet the 90's yet either.

The autumn of 1991 was a big change in music, particularly. Hair bands weren't that successful in 1990 or 1991. Four groups came out with albums that were very different in their work. Nirvana was totally different from the past. U2 reinvented themselves with Achtung Baby! Metallica came out with the Black Album. Guns N' Roses had their two albums. They aren't really a hair band.

While it might have reached critical mass in the following year, it all came out in the end of 1991. The difference was felt big time.

1992 was a tween year. The prez election had the 80's Bush v Clinton. Clinton won and the 90's really began and ended on September 11, 2001.


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The '80s ended on 11:59 PM, December 31, 1989.

1990, 1991, and 1992 are all early '90s years.

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I don't know if you are joking or what but we aren't talking about literal decades. The ethos, feel, etc of the 80's continued into the 90's. Yes, calendar-wise the 80's ended as you say, but not as a cultural period.

The 50's began with Eisenhower's presidency.

The 50's ended on November 22, 1963 with JFK's assassination and the 60's began.

The 60's began to end with the moon landing.

The 70's began with Watergate.

The 80's began on January 20, 1981 with Reagan's election.

The 80's began to end in possibly the summer of 1991, but in earnest in the fall of 1991, definitely.

The 90's came into full with the election of Clinton and lasted 8 years until 9/11.

And we really haven't had another distinctive difference since then. The Obama years are just an extension of the 2000s.

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I wasn't joking before when I posted that.

Blossom, Tiny Toon Adventures, black high top sneakers,slap bracelets, Cross Colors, earth tones, baggy jeans are not '80s things. 1990 felt nothing like the '80s. I was there.

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I was there too.

Nothing changed overnight.

1990 wasn't even a year removed from the 80's, so why wouldn't it not feel similar to it? The 80's were dying down, but they weren't done yet.

Kids weren't wearing acid wash jeans in 1982 but it doesn't mean it wasn't an 80's thing. 1988 had a different feel than 1982 but it was still the 80's in tone.

It was basically the same with 1990.

There was nothing distinctively "90's" about 1990. Tiny Toons was just another TV show. Blossom came on after that, but it's an archaic show.

OK, maybe Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer. That's about it.

But, even in that same year, Motley Crue charted with Dr. Feelgood! That's pretty 80's.

1990 and 1991 were a transition period.

People who lived through it will remember things that aren't really identifiable with that period to persons who weren't in it.

Blossom, for example, isn't really going to be known to much of anyone outside of that generation because it had no real influence or lasting popularity. Compare to Saved By the Bell, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Friends, Seinfeld, and The X-Files.

Those shows still air today or influenced pop-culture to a great extent.

Tiny Toons didn't.

Any pop-culture look at the 90's would absolutely have to include The X-Files, but not Blossom. It may include NBC Thursday nights or ABC's TGIF, but not Burt Reynold's Evening Shade or Candace Bergen's Murphy Brown. Both of those shows lasted for years, but let's not imagine they identify at all with the 90's, really.

It's the same with movies. Terminator 2 influenced film to this day. It was a huge hit. So was Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Which one is more important, more emblematic. They both came out in the same year, but the latter is barely remembered for it's huge musical hit by Bryan Adams.

So, I don't think you are correct. Even if 1990 was different than 1989 it still wasn't readily identifiable with the period people generally perceive as being the 90's.

That occurs at the earliest possibly at the end of 1991, but definitely no later than 1993.

Since you reference things that a young kid would like, I'm going to guess that you were born in the 80's and this colors your perspective, since to you it may have felt much different, but I don't think it did to persons born in the 70's or earlier.

I think you are looking at it too closely, perhaps. A case of not seeing the forest for the trees.

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There was nothing distinctively "90s" about 1990?

1990 was the year when the general population started wearing Bart Simpson shirts and earth tones (Twin Peaks was very popular in that year). That's pretty '90s to me.


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OK, so there were some more things that occurred in 1990, but on balance the amount of "90s" stuff in 1990 wasn't all that much. Twin Peaks and The Simpsons were not indicative of the culture; they were exceptions to it.

Twin Peaks was never a huge hit and only lasted a year and a half. The Simpsons was a big hit, but it really didn't hit it's stride quality-wise several years into the 90's even if it was a bigger hit earlier.

People think of that show and the first thing they think of is Homer. Originally, it was Bart. When Homer became the go-to character is when The Simpsons really became 90's. Bart sold T-shirts but that was short-lived. The novelty wore off.

Your post I think proves my point as these things weren't really indicative of that year as they were the exceptions. Fox wasn't even on 7 nights a week back then and had maybe two or three shows that anybody ever knew. The Simpsons was a game changer. So much so that the head of Fox put it up against The Cosby Show which was still an 80's hangover and star.

I still stand by mentioning Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer because these were things that came and went but are still indicative of the 90's. The Simpsons has existed in some form or another for nearly 30 years. It's hard to call that "distinctly" 90's. It was distinctly original, but that's rather different than distinctly 90's.

You are right about The Simpsons but I think it only proves my point of the period being a transition from the 80's to the 90's. It was new and different and people didn't really know where to place it.

After all, it was still a Cosby Show world. Cheers! was still going strong.

Once grunge came around, there was a distinctively different generation and all these 90's things coalesced.

By 1993, the 80's were done. New president, different party ending a 12 year run, post Cold War, only one superpower (USA), different music and possibly more varied, different TV shows, CGI movies like Jurassic Park, Disney cartoons playing to adult audiences (reaching it's apogee with The Lion King), Tom Hanks run of huge hits, the Chicago Bulls completing their first threepeat, Michael Jackson's first scandal (consigning him to 80's history), and so on.

I may have overreached by saying there was nothing distinctly different about 1990, but in general, I stand by it. It was still 90% 80's and only 10% 90's if that.

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You are making sense. The tmnt guy is failing to grasp the concept.

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What concept? Everyone looks at things differently.

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Sigh. The concept is already explained several times by myself and others throughout this thread.

If you are unable to grasp the concept that the feel of a decade does not instantly cease at midnight on the final day of the decade then I feel sorry for you. It seems like there may be a short circuit someplace in your humanity. Consider becoming a CPA if you aren't one already. That is a great career path for folks that think like machines.

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I'm sorry, Jimbofinesse. I cannot help but see 1989 as the last year of the 1980s. '89 was the final time in history when the major pop-culture institutions of the 1990s were launched.

Law and Order premiered in September of 1990 and carried on well into the 2000s. Most hit '90s shows, like Roseanne, were off the air before the 2000s rolled around. So, to me, 1990 was not an '80s year and I refuse to see it as such.
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