The King of Queens : When Leah put on weight

She was more beautiful in those seasons.

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Right on, Leah was awesome.

Nothing against Leah, but it seemed a bit hypocritical and out of place for Carrie to get on Doug's case about his weight when she had clearly gained weight herself.
I'm talking about the characters here.

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I agree, and it took away from the premise of the whole show where "funny fat guy gets hottie". She looked horrible.

And why did she never lose the added on weight from the baby?? She was overweight for like the last 3-4 years of the show.

Beats me! I always wondered about that.

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I gotta disagree. She did end up losing a lot of the weight after her pregnancy.

While she was never as thin as when the show started, she certainly wasn't overweight either.

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Yes, but it took years for her to lose that weight. Most girls it takes months, not years.

That's fine. It's not a race to lose weight. Plus, she wasn't obese, so there was no rush.

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There was a compelling reason to lose the weight though, because she was playing the part of a petite hottie all along, and Doug Heffernan mentioned on the show how lucky he was to get someone like her.

Now if the writers had decided she and Doug should have had a kid on the show, then yes I would agree completely with you - it's explained and no rush to lose any weight.

But she was supposed to have still been the petite hottie though, and that was a disconnect to a lot of folks.

Nah, she was playing the part of a blue collar woman. They come in all sizes.

I'd say her getting bigger created a bigger connection with a lot of folks, as many people do fluctuate in their weight through their lives. Especially as they get older. And it's a good example that even a television star can have difficulty shedding the weight. Plus, it shows Doug wasn't into her just because she was a petite hottie. He actually loved her, not just her body.

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Don't agree. You're not a petite 110 pounder for like 3 or 4 seasons in a row and then suddenly the next season you've gained like 25 - 30% body weight with ZERO explanation. And btw, Doug did pointedly reference several times how hot her body was "pre-pregnancy" and how attracted to her he was,,,but NOT afterwards. That's why I'm so adamant about the topic, and how the original plot was about that. That Doug had married a hottie "out of his league".

Again, if the script tried to conform with what you're saying that would be fine, but it did not.

Instead, in real life Leah put on a ton of weight, and then made no effort at all to lose all that baby fat for the next few years. Thin hottie turned into blimpy housewife with zero explanation.

It does happen to people. They gain weight. It's normal and a part of life. The show was also adamant that Carrie had found someone who loved her personality. Doug wasn't just in love with her body.

And btw, Doug did pointedly reference several times how hot her body was "pre-pregnancy" and how attracted to her he was,,,but NOT afterwards

Didn't you say she was still supposed to be the petite hottie and that's why there was a disconnect? This shows that she was no longer supposed to be the petite hottie as she's not being reference as so.

Plus, the script did actually conform to what I'm saying. Carrie lost her job and so episodes had her sitting around the house just eating, doing nothing. Hence the weight gain. And even after her pregnancy, there's an episode where Doug encourages her buy Lou Ferrigno's work out equipment since she no longer fits in her pants. The show acknowledged she put on weight.

So what actually happened is that Leah gained weight because she became pregnant, as all women do. The show acknowledged the weight gain and even devised a reason for it. Leah worked hard to slowly lose the weight and did end up looking much thinner again by the last two seasons of the show. A woman put on weight with plenty of explanation on the show.

But she was always hot.

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Don't agree.

Yes, people gain weight during pregnancy, But there was nothing in the KofQ storyline about pregnancy!

I did some further research on it,,she actually gained a massive 80 pounds during her pregnancy!!! So you had a petite girl of about 110/120 pounds suddenly ballooning to 200 pounds!!

https://www.closerweekly.com/posts/leah-remini-weight-gain-145839/

So the writers came up with that phony pathetic storyline that she was eating because she was depressed. It was a desperate move to try to retrofit something that was impractical and made no sense. A petite girl cant eat her way to the Goodyear Blimp status in a matter of several months.

This is all on Leah Remini and her dereliction to her role on the show. She could have hired a trainer, dieted, and focused on getting back into shape, and this never would have been a topic. But instead she lolled and lazed around for years, did nothing, and looked horrible on the show. Very unprofessional of her, and very disappointing to the KofQ fan base.

As I said, the show didn't need a pregnancy storyline. They had their own storyline to explain her weight gain. Very practical and made plenty of sense. And yes, small people can in fact balloon up to huge levels if they over eat and never get any exercise or activity. It happens. That's life. It happened to Carrie. And it wasn't suddenly. Women don't get big right away when they're pregnant. It takes months.

Leah did get back into shape. She did it properly. There's no need to rush losing all that excess baby weight. Slow and steady wins the race. And it's healthier. Dropping a lot of weight too quickly can be hazardous. I'm happy she took her time. She looked great during all that time. Even when she was heavier. She was a total pro the whole time. She always showed up to work and was on her A-game.

And the fanbase wasn't disappointed. They still loved and do love her to this day. No one has a problem with her weight gain. It's a part of life.

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And as I said, the show did need a storyline to properly justify the ballooning of the Leah Remini character, and it failed most miserably. The clear options were to either write a baby into the script, or put the show on hiatus until she dropped the tonnage.

Actually the 2nd option (putting the show on hiatus) might have worked like a charm. As that might have been the catalyst that Leah actually needed to actually "get off the pot" and actually drop the weight. (As btw, any other professional actress would have done where the part and script called for a female/wife on the petite side who had not yet had a baby.)

And obviously the fanbase was disappointed and did have a problem with her going blimp-like. That's why people complained about it here. And moreso, when I did that Google search on her before, she said she was under a lot of pressure, scrutiny, and flak about the weight gain. Not during the pregnancy, but taking so exceedingly long afterwards to finally do something about it post-pregnancy.

I disagree. The show succeeded wonderfully. She gained weight from overeating and sitting around the house all day. It happens. That's a part of life. No need to add a baby just because she put on some weight. Fraiser didn't do it. Married with Children didn't do it. The Cosby Show didn't do it. It's not a necessity.

And no, putting the show on hiatus was not an option. There are people whose paychecks depend on the show being in production. That would've been a terrible option. The script was changed to the character gaining weight. So no problem there.

Nah, most of the fanbase was cool. It's just a very vocal minority of people who complained because they're just angry at strangers.

Of course she did something about her weight gain post-pregnancy. She couldn't do anything during her pregnancy to lose weight. She was always a consummate professional. No matter her weight, she always showed up ready to work. And then she lost the weight at her own pace. Well done to her.

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"I disagree. The show succeeded wonderfully."

Sorry, the numbers and facts show just the opposite.

In the 3 Seasons of the show right before she was pregnant, the show averaged about 13.4MM viewers on the Nielsen ratings.

Once she became pregnant, the Nielsen ratings for those next 3 following Seasons averaged about 10.4MM viewers. Ouch!

So clearly a steep and precipitous drop once that event occurred. And once there was an inexplicable plotline correlating to the morbid weight gain. Millions bailed.

Clearly not so "wonderful".

"I disagree. The show succeeded wonderfully."

Sorry, the numbers and facts show just the opposite.

In the 3 Seasons of the show right before she was pregnant, the show averaged about 13.4MM viewers on the Nielsen ratings.

Once she became pregnant, the Nielsen ratings for those next 3 following Seasons averaged about 10.4MM viewers. Ouch!

So clearly a steep and precipitous drop once that event occurred. And once there was an inexplicable plotline correlating to the morbid weight gain. Millions bailed.

Morbid weight gain?

Shut up, you shallow moron. You're showing that you're just as shallow as anyone who stopped watching for the reason you think they stopped.

You don't know why they stopped.

Your posts in this thread are shameful and you are a misogynistic asshole.

You're clearly not so wonderful yourself.

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"I disagree. The show succeeded wonderfully."

Sorry, the numbers and facts show just the opposite.

In the 3 Seasons of the show right before she was pregnant, the show averaged about 13.4MM viewers on the Nielsen ratings.

Once she became pregnant, the Nielsen ratings for those next 3 following Seasons averaged about 10.4MM viewers. Ouch!

So clearly a steep and precipitous drop once that event occurred. And once there was an inexplicable plotline correlating to the morbid weight gain. Millions bailed.

Morbid weight gain?

Shut up, you shallow moron. You're showing that you're just as shallow as anyone who stopped watching for the reason you think they stopped.

You don't know why they stopped.

Your posts in this thread are shameful and you are a misogynistic asshole.

You're clearly not so wonderful yourself.

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Yep, I discovered it was a 3 Million viewer drop.

10.4mm. That's still a great number. The show was still doing fantastic, so clearly most people still loved it and her weight gain wasn't as big a deal as some think it was. Millions may have bailed, but even more millions stuck around to enjoy the show. Not all that steep or precipitous.

They did a wonderful job of coming up with a reason for her weight gain. They weaved it into the show, and even weaved in her weight loss. That was all well done.

morbid weight gain.

No, don't try to lump in pregnancy weight with morbidity. No one's buying it.

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preachcaleb said... 10.4mm. That's still a great number. The show was still doing fantastic, so clearly most people still loved it and her weight gain wasn't as big a deal as some think it was. Millions may have bailed, but even more millions stuck around to enjoy the show. Not all that steep or precipitous.

They did a wonderful job of coming up with a reason for her weight gain. They weaved it into the show, and even weaved in her weight loss. That was all well done.

morbid weight gain.

No, don't try to lump in pregnancy weight with morbidity. No one's buying it.

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Actually they had a huge precipitous 3 million drop-off in viewers. So no, they did not have a valid reason for the weight gain with the audience.

Now that I've researched this further and discovered that alarming statistic, I'm going to make another observation. Typical when sitcoms have a strange or a desperate turning point. It's called "jumping the shark".

So I'm declaring that inexplicable weight change was when the show "jumped the shark".

mwmtampa said... Actually they had a huge precipitous 3 million drop-off in viewers. So no, they did not have a valid reason for the weight gain with the audience.

Now that I've researched this further and discovered that alarming statistic, I'm going to make another observation. Typical when sitcoms have a strange or a desperate turning point. It's called "jumping the shark".

So I'm declaring that inexplicable weight change was when the show "jumped the shark".

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Nah, 3 million wasn't huge. As you said, they still averaged 10 million. Plus, it didn't just drop. It was a gradual decline, so that's not precipitous either.

Nah, jumping the shark doesn't apply here. Especially since the ratings maintained pretty steady throughout the last seasons. They didn't plummet.

The vast majority of audience stuck around. The weight gain didn't scare most people away. Just a minority.

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preachcaleb said... Nah, 3 million wasn't huge. As you said, they still averaged 10 million. Plus, it didn't just drop. It was a gradual decline, so that's not precipitous either.

Nah, jumping the shark doesn't apply here. Especially since the ratings maintained pretty steady throughout the last seasons. They didn't plummet.

The vast majority of audience stuck around. The weight gain didn't scare most people away. Just a minority.

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Okay, so I've supplied facts and evidence, and you weakly supply only your tone deaf opinion.

Sorry, huge/gigantic drop-off, and shark jumping.

mwmtampa said... Okay, so I've supplied facts and evidence, and you weakly supply only your tone deaf opinion.

Sorry, huge/gigantic drop-off, and shark jumping.

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I'm laughing at your petulant responses in this thread. Clearly you're someone who can't admit when you're wrong.

That's typical for a misogynist like you. You're actually pissed off that Rimini gained weight and ruined your enjoyment of the show.

Are you an incel too, like that sad case here known as lukejbarnett?

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/. said... I'm laughing at your petulant responses in this thread. Clearly you're someone who can't admit when you're wrong.

That's typical for a misogynist like you. You're actually pissed off that Rimini gained weight and ruined your enjoyment of the show.

Are you an incel too, like that sad case here known as lukejbarnett?

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Thanks for intruding into the conversation. You obviously missed the whole point that I would have been fine with them announcing a kid into the show to justify her weight gain, but they decided to just pretend instead that her weight gain didn't happen. Lame.

Ive already researched this and determined there was a massive drop-off of about 25% of the KofQ viewers (millions of viewers) when that event happened. As compared to the years leading up to it.

So sorry, I know I'm right here. And the evidence backs it up.

mwmtampa said... Thanks for intruding into the conversation. You obviously missed the whole point that I would have been fine with them announcing a kid into the show to justify her weight gain, but they decided to just pretend instead that her weight gain didn't happen. Lame.

Ive already researched this and determined there was a massive drop-off of about 25% of the KofQ viewers (millions of viewers) when that event happened. As compared to the years leading up to it.

So sorry, I know I'm right here. And the evidence backs it up.

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Don't be rude. This isn't a private forum. Anyone may speak their mind on any conversation.

but they decided to just pretend instead that her weight gain didn't happen. Lame.

No, that is a lie. Please do not engage in falsehoods. As we've already established, the show both provided a reason for the weight gain and even acknowledged her exercising to start losing it.

The evidence just shows a minority of people left (as they do with all shows), but the majority stayed with it through to the end. Long enough to see Leah lose all her baby weight.

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/. said... I'm laughing at your petulant responses in this thread. Clearly you're someone who can't admit when you're wrong.

That's typical for a misogynist like you. You're actually pissed off that Rimini gained weight and ruined your enjoyment of the show.

Are you an incel too, like that sad case here known as lukejbarnett?

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It's a shame some people feel a need to lash out at strangers on their televisions for going through the same things viewers at home go through. Struggles with weight gain and weight loss are common human experiences.

That's a good reason so many viewers still stuck around with the show. They could relate to the characters.

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preachcaleb said... It's a shame some people feel a need to lash out at strangers on their televisions for going through the same things viewers at home go through. Struggles with weight gain and weight loss are common human experiences.

That's a good reason so many viewers still stuck around with the show. They could relate to the characters.

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It's a shame some people feel a need to not allow a speck of criticism, instead advocating the blind eye of political correctness.

There's a good reason millions of people abandoned the show. They couldn't relate to the shark jumping.

mwmtampa said... It's a shame some people feel a need to not allow a speck of criticism, instead advocating the blind eye of political correctness.

There's a good reason millions of people abandoned the show. They couldn't relate to the shark jumping.

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It's a shame some people think fat-shaming someone counts as criticism. It's just jealousy at the success of another.

There's an even greater reason even more millions stuck around. They loved the show because it didn't jump the shark.

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preachcaleb said... It's a shame some people think fat-shaming someone counts as criticism. It's just jealousy at the success of another.

There's an even greater reason even more millions stuck around. They loved the show because it didn't jump the shark.

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It's a shame some people get so irritated at the thought of fat-shaming. They don't realize that there can actually be other legitimate underlying criticism.

That's the reason that the three million didn't stick around. Because the show had jumped the shark.

mwmtampa said... It's a shame some people get so irritated at the thought of fat-shaming. They don't realize that there can actually be other legitimate underlying criticism.

That's the reason that the three million didn't stick around. Because the show had jumped the shark.

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It's a shame some people try to hide their fat shaming under some imagined legitimate criticism. There isn't.

Fortunately, ten million knew the show hadn't jumped the shark. That's why the show was still a hit years after.

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preachcaleb said... It's a shame some people try to hide their fat shaming under some imagined legitimate criticism. There isn't.

Fortunately, ten million knew the show hadn't jumped the shark. That's why the show was still a hit years after.

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Yep, went from a mega top 20 hit, to a mediocre 35/40 hit. Shark jumping did that.

mwmtampa said... Yep, went from a mega top 20 hit, to a mediocre 35/40 hit. Shark jumping did that.

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Nope. 10 million is a great rating. No shark jumping there.

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preachcaleb said... Nope. 10 million is a great rating. No shark jumping there.

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Nope, 3 million is massive. Shark jumping.

mwmtampa said... Nope, 3 million is massive. Shark jumping.

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Nope. 10 million is massive. No shark jumping.

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preachcaleb said... Nope. 10 million is massive. No shark jumping.

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Massive and SJ!

mwmtampa said... Massive and SJ!

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Nope and nope.

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preachcaleb said... Nope and nope.

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Yep and Yep.

mwmtampa said... Yep and Yep.

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No and no.

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preachcaleb said... No and no.

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Let me know if you can agree to disagree so we can end the convo.

mwmtampa said... Okay, so I've supplied facts and evidence, and you weakly supply only your tone deaf opinion.

Sorry, huge/gigantic drop-off, and shark jumping.

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Your facts don't support your opinion. Sorry, 3 million leaving by 10 million sticking around is not huge or gigantic. That's not how shark jumping works.

No need to get defensive. Even in disagreement, one can still be a gentleman.

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preachcaleb said... Your facts don't support your opinion. Sorry, 3 million leaving by 10 million sticking around is not huge or gigantic. That's not how shark jumping works.

No need to get defensive. Even in disagreement, one can still be a gentleman.

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And your opinion is nothing short of a 2nd grade mentality. Sorry a 25% loss of viewers is mega-gigantic.

No need to get pathetic. Even in disagreement, one can still be a gentleman.

mwmtampa said... And your opinion is nothing short of a 2nd grade mentality. Sorry a 25% loss of viewers is mega-gigantic.

No need to get pathetic. Even in disagreement, one can still be a gentleman.

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So you say this:

Even in disagreement, one can still be a gentleman.

Right after saying this?

And your opinion is nothing short of a 2nd grade mentality. Sorry a 25% loss of viewers is mega-gigantic.
No need to get pathetic.

Shut up. You're the one who's pathetic. 25% loss of viewers when a show is still pulling 10.4 mm a week is nothing.

Nothing. Like you. You're nothing more than a whiny misogynist who's been fighting a losing battle FOR THREE YEARS and STILL can't admit he's wrong.

You're so mad people disagree with you and call you out on your bug-eyed insanity. Just look at this list of hyped up hyperbole nonsense you've been spraying like spittle:

Goodyear Blimp status!

that alarming statistic!

huge/gigantic drop-off!

blimpy housewife!

massive drop-off!

put on a ton of weight!

going blimp-like!

huge precipitous 3 million drop-off!

mega-gigantic!

steep and precipitous drop!

morbid weight gain!

Keep fighting, desperado! And keep a thesaurus handy, you're gonna need it!

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/. said... So you say this:

Even in disagreement, one can still be a gentleman.

Right after saying this?

And your opinion is nothing short of a 2nd grade mentality. Sorry a 25% loss of viewers is mega-gigantic.
No need to get pathetic.

Shut up. You're the one who's pathetic. 25% loss of viewers when a show is still pulling 10.4 mm a week is nothing.

Nothing. Like you. You're nothing more than a whiny misogynist who's been fighting a losing battle FOR THREE YEARS and STILL can't admit he's wrong.

You're so mad people disagree with you and call you out on your bug-eyed insanity. Just look at this list of hyped up hyperbole nonsense you've been spraying like spittle:

Goodyear Blimp status!

that alarming statistic!

huge/gigantic drop-off!

blimpy housewife!

massive drop-off!

put on a ton of weight!

going blimp-like!

huge precipitous 3 million drop-off!

mega-gigantic!

steep and precipitous drop!

morbid weight gain!

Keep fighting, desperado! And keep a thesaurus handy, you're gonna need it!

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I'm going to keep fighting and fighting and fighting for sure. You can count on it!

Against desperate whiny prissy losers like you! My opinion will not be suppressed,,,ever!

And just because you obviously failed math, let me do the calculation for you. In this case the 25% translates to over 3,000,000 viewers who most likely agreed with me. Hardly sounds like a losing battle to me.

mwmtampa said... I'm going to keep fighting and fighting and fighting for sure. You can count on it!

Against desperate whiny prissy losers like you! My opinion will not be suppressed,,,ever!

And just because you obviously failed math, let me do the calculation for you. In this case the 25% translates to over 3,000,000 viewers who most likely agreed with me. Hardly sounds like a losing battle to me.

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25% translates to over 3,000,000 viewers who most likely agreed with me

Here we have you, mwmtampa, claiming you think those 3 million most likely left because they were a misogynist like you and couldn't stand to look at her.

That's a TON of nonsense and undeserved "confidence," you incel mongo.

I can't stop laughing at you and your desperation here.

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25% translates to over 3,000,000 viewers who most likely agreed with me

Here we have you, mwmtampa, claiming you think those 3 million most likely left because they were a misogynist like you and couldn't stand to look at her.

That's a TON of nonsense and undeserved "confidence," you incel mongo.

I can't stop laughing at you and your desperation here.

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You sound like one of those Twitter fanatics who can't stand to hear other arguments and opinions.

mwmtampa said... You sound like one of those Twitter fanatics who can't stand to hear other arguments and opinions.

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No, it's clearly you who can't stand to hear other arguments and opinions. Leah's weight gain made you melt down.

And you're still melting down after three years!

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/. said... No, it's clearly you who can't stand to hear other arguments and opinions. Leah's weight gain made you melt down.

And you're still melting down after three years!

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Actually, the thread was dormant for years until that other whiny b*tch resurrected it.

I have no problem hearing other opinions. I may not necessarily agree with them, but I acknowledge them. That's the problem with today's society. If they don't like the other opinion they try to cancel it.

mwmtampa said... Actually, the thread was dormant for years until that other whiny b*tch resurrected it.

I have no problem hearing other opinions. I may not necessarily agree with them, but I acknowledge them. That's the problem with today's society. If they don't like the other opinion they try to cancel it.

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I have no problem hearing other opinions. I may not necessarily agree with them, but I acknowledge them.

Of course you don't agree. That obvious. But you do have a problem hearing other opinions.

You get triggered by them.

Did you forget that this whole thread is about you claiming you think 3 million viewers most likely left (with no evidence as to their reasons!) because they were a misogynist like you and couldn't stand to look at her!

Did you stick with the show or did you keep watching?

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I have no problem hearing other opinions. I may not necessarily agree with them, but I acknowledge them.

Of course you don't agree. That obvious. But you do have a problem hearing other opinions.

You get triggered by them.

Did you forget that this whole thread is about you claiming you think 3 million viewers most likely left (with no evidence as to their reasons!) because they were a misogynist like you and couldn't stand to look at her!

Did you stick with the show or did you keep watching?

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Obviously you didn't read the whole thread at all as I never even mentioned the ratings drop until just last week. So this thread was around for years before that was even referenced.

I gave up on the show back then as I thought it got silly with that plot hole.