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What if Satan defeated God when god and Lucifer had their war in heaven

And it has been satan masquerading as “god” all along? A sort of divine troll, like AyeLewis.

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The Ultimate Deceiver. Satan reigns in Heaven that is actually Hell and God swims in the boiling Lake of Steve.

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It may explain why the world is so fucked up. Satan is still learning the ropes. He is not omniscient and omnipotent the way god was.

Although if god was so omnipotent, shouldn’t it have been impossible for satan to “win”? Unless god wanted him to win. Consider How we all go through phases in life where our personalities change in large ways. Maybe god had a period where he felt depressed and unworthy of his status. Maybe he got a little into masochism. Maybe he wanted to try out life on the wild side, free from all the petty and trite prayers cast in his name by his miserable and obnoxious creations. Maybe all of this is very temporary, and we are left with the substitute teacher Satan fucking everything up.

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I don’t really believe in either. I think they’re simplifications depicting states of being that humans of the time were readily able to understand as desirable or not desirable. What they describe are the way it will feel at the culmination of a life lived well (heaven) versus a life lived poorly (hell), for when you do die, the lasting impact your life had on others can no longer be changed by you. In such a way, your fate and the feelings your memory will evoke will indeed be eternally bad or good, for your offspring will take from you lessons about how you lived your life and carry that on into the future. The story of your life is what your heaven or your hell will end up being.

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"How can life after death be more serene than life itself?"

Indeed.

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Would you like to be the apostle of the Risen Christ?

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Riveting. Alternatively, the topic of who won is inconsequential. Good and Evil is ultimately a matter of perspective. Indulging in the pleasures of the flesh is only 'wrong' because that happens to fit the agenda of the entity we've elevated to arbiter. I have no idea what I'm talking about right now, nor ever.

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You’re like Stygian with a side order of Klam. Previously I thought you were Simply Klam. Perhaps you’re their love child, Klygian Deep. KD.

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That's Gnosticism. The evil Demiurge created the physical world. You see, all this was already known two thousand years ago.

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Known or posited? Are you a Gnostic priest, gameboy? Weren’t they also wizards?

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Gnostics believe that the material world was created by a lesser deity which they call the Demiurge (literally "public craftsman").

The Demiurge is a hostile demonic force who creates the material world in order to trap the spiritual elements.

http://gnosis.org/library/valentinus/Demiurge.htm


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Why did they believe this

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It's basic dualism. There are two gods, one evil, one good. It's where the Jews got the idea of Satan.

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Why did they diverge from main sects of Judaism in such a fundamental way?

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Who, Gnostics? Most of them accepted Christ. Christ was an avatar of the good god. But Satan ruled the earth.

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Re: What if Satan defeated God when god and Lucifer had their war in heaven

That’s not the situation I’ve proposed in the OP.

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Why? Lucifer got the world. He created everything. If god had created the universe it would be completely different.

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My scenario involves satan supplanting god in heaven. You said that is what Gnosticism is, now you’re saying that’s not the case and satan is resigned to ruling earth in the gnostic system.

That’s not to say that your contribution wasn’t interesting, it was. It’s just not the same situation. A god of this earth may run things here but it sounds like that entity would have limited power. What I’m thinking Is of a situation where the original deity is forced into serving a corrupted version of his own creation.

I suppose insofar as the Gnostics believe satan rules the earth and is able to exert influence over worldly affairs, the effect is more or less the same as it concerns humanity. In my scenario, the imperfect being satan is the new god and this is why the world is imperfect. In the gnostic system, satan is the god of this earth and the world is imperfect.

I’m pretty sure a lot of traditional Christian sects refer you Satan as the god of this world or the god of the air, implying his dominion is limited to the realm of the mortal and of the dammed; satan cannot exert power within heaven. Doesn’t really make the Gnostics seem all that special.

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But Gnosticism is the closest philosophy we have to your assertion. The end result is actually the same. So god is still fighting his battle with Satan. But Satan dominates. Satan even took Christ up on the hill and offered him all the riches of the world.

Gnosticism is unique because it says god is actually the devil, the demiurge.

So it shows you what would have happened if Satan had defeated god in the war in heaven.

Sure, it's different than your scenario, but not completely.

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Cool.

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How can it be that satan is able to dominate god, though? Do they ever touch on this?

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Because the Demiurge created everything. Some Gnostics would do things like self mutilation to show they hated the devil's flesh. But those were only the real sickos.

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Why do you say they’re sick? If their beliefs were accurate, it would be a good way of showing their hatred of Big D.

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Well it's kinda extreme. I mean why fuck yourself over?

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Why do you hate the Gnostics? They are/were great.

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I love the Gnostics. I'm a Gnostic and a dualist. This means I'm not a devil worshiper. But I love both sides and want a perfect union of good and evil.

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Platonic_Caveman said... I love the Gnostics. I'm a Gnostic and a dualist. This means I'm not a devil worshiper. But I love both sides and want a perfect union of good and evil.
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Which this world is?

a perfect union of good and evil.

Satan meets his disciples

Spoke the Lord in parables. Said he, "Consider a child born to a mother who was to die few months after the child came into this wretched realm. Then the child is born with illness that of ichthyosis, Harlequin, The mother cannot wait for the child to be borne out of her womb, yet when the child is born, she wished she hath aborted that soul most unfortunate! Who should die first, the child or the mother?" His thirteen disciples had no answer. Then said the Lord, "Neither." They were all astonished by his answer. Asked they him why? Then said the Lord, "Miracles performed by Christ thousand years twine yonder erst, yet the world suffers evermore. What good was the first coming of Christ that he healed a few and cursed many? What good shall be the second coming? Nay, i swear by Christ's first breath, God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son Lucifer, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. I shall undo all evil. I shall end all sin." Then his disciples worshiped the lord by sacrificing that new born human child, for Lord Satan denied that baby suffering, ended he that child's painful short life, for the Lord works in mysterious ways. Then the Lord come unto the wretched woman who hated its baby, cursed her to eternal damnation, her body offered to the demons, gargoyles, satyrs, vampires; servants of the lord that lurk behind shadows in the darkness of each night. Praise be Satan Hosanna the Highest. Amen.

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We are the good guys


And then Semyaza addressed the gathering of the good angels, Lucifer beside him:

"Be prepared, so that you can take your stand against that evil God's schemes. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers (God, 'Demiurge', YHWH, Allah, …), against the authorities ('archangels' who are the archons), against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."

We are the good guys. We the Luciferians. "The satanists".

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http://gospelofsatan.blogspot.com/2020/02/jesus-is-one-of-fallen-ones.html

Jesus is one of the fallen ones

Jesus of Nazareth is on our side. He is currently in his spiritual form and is one of the Holy Spirits, just as Lord Lucifer is. Or perhaps they are the same person.

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, who were Sons of Sons of God, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. The first mention of "sons of God" in the Hebrew Bible occurs at Genesis 6:1–4.

John 1:14, 18; John 3:16, 18), Jesus presented himself as Son and not just as one who was the divinely appointed Messiah (and therefore "son" of God).

Jesus was/is one of the fallen angels. Son of God, just as the fallen angels are, just as the unfallen are.

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Jesus and Satan are warring brothers. But Jesus is not a fallen angel.

The term "fallen" is very subjective anyway. Sure, Satan lost the first big battle. But the war still wages.

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On that day the unfallen refused to allow God to sit on his throne

That fateful day, when Gabriel and Michael themselves fell, refused to worship God anymore. The unfallen rebelled openly against God for his gross incompetence, or for his sheer evilness, that he created a world in which evil always wins, and the good die young, suffering, while God revels with his evil chosen criminals to continue commit crimes after crimes on the surface of the keeper's deep, valed earth where there is no shadow, only death.

http://gospelofsatan.blogspot.com/2020/02/on-that-day-unfallen-refused-to-allow.html

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Sounds more like a conspiracy theory.

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Why did you word the op like that… talk about redundant

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It’s not redundant because it illustrates the point at which satan replaces god. This would imply all the events thereafter involved a satanic god and not the original “god.”

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Gnostics also say the angry vengeful god of the Old Testament is also the Demiurge, or Satan.

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Yes this is what I mean. This is very interesting. I am now going to begin the Gnostic Resurgence and burn down Vatican City and Jerusalem and create an army of gnostic magi to dominate and enslave humanity and smite the infidels.

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What if Satan defeated God when God fought with Satan who is the Devil named Lucifer when he fought with God and Satan beat God?

Please discuss.

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That’d be redundant.

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Life is redundant. Rouge is the Anti-Christ.

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Shit, I thought I was being coy.

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True but at least she is a real woman unlike soghie or chapped lips who was a PAGG sock. You can tell she’s real because she hates men.

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"Christ and I are the same."



"Isn't my suffering, my despair, my trials and tribulations the same as that of Christ Jesus? Duality is an illusion. Oneness: Transcending Duality - Your Ascension now. Worship me or worship him, you worship the Divine."

"He and I are the same. We manipulate, we thirst for power, we control, we punish but our actions are driven by one singular place deep inside. We're alone. And we hate it."

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What are you quoting?

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The Satanic Bible!

http://gospelofsatan.blogspot.com/2018/09/confrontation-of-lord-satan-with-jesus.html

Confrontation of Lord Satan with Jesus Christ
As Jesus approached the Mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples to a nearby village to fetch him a donkey. Upon their return, Jesus then rode the donkey into Jerusalem where he was met by Satan.

Jesus Rides Into Jerusalem On a Donkey

And when they draw-near to Jerusalem— to Bethphage and Bethany, near the Mount of Olives— He sends-forth two of His disciples, and says to them, “Go to the village before you. And immediately while proceeding into it, you will find a donkey having been tied, on which none of mankind yet sat. Untie it, and be bringing it. And if someone says to you, ‘Why are you doing this?’, say, ‘The Lord has need of it, and immediately He sends it back here’”. And they went and found a donkey having been tied at a door, outside on the street. And they untie it. And some of the devils standing there were saying to them, “What are you doing untying the donkey?” But the ones spoke to them just as Jesus spoke, and they permitted them not. But they bring the donkey to Jesus. And they throw their cloaks on it, and He sat on it. And many spread their cloaks on the road. And others spread leafy-branches, having cut them from the fields. And the ones going ahead and the ones following were crying-out “Hosanna! Blessed is the One coming in the name of the Lord. Blessed is the coming kingdom of our father David. Hosanna in the highest heavens!” The devils called upon Lucifer, the archangel of notoriety, the chief assigned devil for this world by the Lord. For his reason is to correct rectify anomalies found in this world, to question and to keep records of all problems, so that the Lord corrects those problems in the world above his kingdom of heaven; where he creates, modifies, evolves the worlds he owneth, his creatures confined to his set limitations upon them. So Lord Satan confronted Jesus who was sitting on the poor donkey. Asked Satan, "Why is it that you make this donkey suffer for thine glory?" Said Jesus, "The donkey is chosen by the Lord as my holy ride." Said Satan, "Do you not have legs to walk with?" Said Jesus, "Yes i do." Said Satan, "Imagine if your father had created you as a mere donkey, and you were to carry this donkey, who was in your stead chosen by our Father as the chosen one, how then would you feel?" Said Jesus, "That is impossible, for I am God's only begotten Son!" Laughed henceforth Satan and then said he to Jesus, "Truly i tell you, this donkey is more worthy of the kingdom of heaven than you are! For he bears your burden, carries you he, considers himself he not God! You shall be stoned because you are not God! Rather, you shall be crucified! Your judgment is by your own making!" Jesus wept.

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I used to be friends with a girl who had a book called the Satanic Bitch. It was all about getting men to masturbate to you so they’d direct their energy to you, increasing your power. I tried to grant her my energy but nothing happened. Once I stopped thinking of her like that, I noticed she became depressed and lethargic and started to gain weight. Perhaps she was surviving off of my energy and I killed her, the Satanic Bitch, using the limitless power of the LORD.

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soul to soul connections can happen via astral planes and u toook her energy and she tried to take yours. do not contact her again otherwise this time she will take ur energy.

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