Alex Jones : What has Alex Jones actually done wrong?

What has Alex Jones actually done wrong?

I'm not defending him as I know very little about him, but he just seems like an average conspiracy nut who got lucky and found a massive audience?

People seem really happy that his lawyer fucked up and sent incriminating evidence to the lawyers of the people who were suing him……so why all the hate for someone who believes in outlandish things? did he also murder a bunch of kids or summat?



I'm not gunna lie, when if first saw that clip of the sandy hook parent laughing and smiling before then giving an emotional interview ( like a day after it happened ) I did start to take him seriously ( on the Sandy Hook thing at least )

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He had a "wrong" opinion on the Sandy Hook shooting and he dared to voice that opinion on his podcast. In other words, he broke no law and was just exercising his first amendment right to free speech. He's being sued for $150 million for "emotional damage" by the Sandy Hook parents. It seems excessive but they might get what they're asking for. FTR, I don't like Alex Jones but I think this civil trial is bullshit and it's designed to put him out of business i.e., silence another dissenting voice on the right.

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If they win, it sets a really bad precedent. Free speech isn't free. You could feasibly sue *anyone* for emotional damage. The government isn't above pushing civilians to file these kinds of lawsuits so that contrarians can be financially punished for demonstrating their First Amendment rights.

He's already been deplatformed which means his show is over.

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The government isn't above pushing civilians to file these kinds of lawsuits so that contrarians can be financially punished for demonstrating their First Amendment rights.

Exactly. It's one way they silence the opposition.

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From my understanding, he was found liable by default because he refused to cooperate, not because a jury found him liable. This trial is just to determine how much he has to pay.

The judge ruled on Monday that because Mr. Jones had refused to turn over documents ordered by the courts, including financial records, he was liable by default. The decision, combined with previous rulings in Texas in late September, means Mr. Jones has lost all the defamation lawsuits filed against him by the families of 10 victims.


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It's true

No one is forcing anyone to listen to him

Society has become too litigious

Off topic
No free speech on social media, but when someone is stupid enough to record themselves commiting a crime and then posts it, then it's good that they're good too stupid to get away with it

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A really bad precedent! Freedom of Speech is under constant attack from the morons in the Radical Left.



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You know that example where freedom of speech does not mean you have the right to yell, "Fire!" in a crowded movie theatre?

Same thing here.
Jones was yelling, "Fire!" and now he has to pay the price for being a liar and a moron.
Fuck him and the high horse he rode in on.

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Apples to oranges actually.



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Not at all.
Same thing where he lied and got others into trouble over it.
The liar is scum and deserves to lose.

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Whatever.



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I am so glad the court ignored his whining of free speech which does not apply to here.

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by MovieManCin2 August 06, 2022 07:24 AM
Member since February 19, 2018

A really bad precedent!
Freedom of Speech is under constant attack from the morons in the Radical Left.


Now that is true.

Freedom of Speech shouldn't allow Hate-Speech and Rabble-Rousing.
Especially watching the activities of this 'lovely' BlaBla-Board-asset:
https://filmboards.com/board/p/20753725/permalink/#p20753725

But it's true that the Leftists try to install an ugly cancel culture.
Pretending to want the best for all people (of course what the Leftists think is the best) they try to silence everyone whose opinion they don't like. ☻

Free speech must include everything!

Bullshit! Free speech must include everything, or it's not free speech. The obvious exception, of course, is not yelling "fire!" in a movie theatre.

And just who the hell gets to decide what "hate speech" is? So called "hate speech" is anything that the Leftards disagree with. They want to squash their opponents by squashing freedom of speech.

Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. Now, is that hate speech? Who has the right to determine that?

PS And so called "rabble rousing" is the MOST IMPORTANT free speech of all! If a bunch of rabble rousers didn't raise hell back in the late 1700's, we'd still be British.















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by MovieManCin2 August 07, 2022 07:46 AM
Member since February 19, 2018

Bullshit! Free speech must include everything, or it's not free speech. The obvious exception, of course, is not yelling "fire!" in a movie theatre.

And just who the hell gets to decide what "hate speech" is? So called "hate speech" is anything that the Leftards disagree with. They want to squash their opponents by squashing freedom of speech.

Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. Now, is that hate speech? Who has the right to determine that?

PS And so called "rabble rousing" is the MOST IMPORTANT free speech of all! If a bunch of rabble rousers didn't raise hell back in the late 1700's, we'd still be British.

Hate-Speech
"faggot" "fag" "bitch" "cunt" "mongo" etc.

Rabble-Rousing
Constantly stir up hate, offending people, changing facts.

You didn't use hate-speech in your last post.
Neither you nor the people back in the late 1700's had been rabble-rousers.

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Who the fuck has the right to decide those words are hate speech? Who gets to play God?

And who the fuck has the right to decide that rabble rousing is to stir up hate?

You obviously do NOT understand Free Speech. Is this something embedded in you by the German psyche?



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by MovieManCin2 August 07, 2022 08:19 AM
Member since February 19, 2018

Who the fuck has the right to decide those words are hate speech? Who gets to play God?

And who the fuck has the right to decide that rabble rousing is to stir up hate?

You obviously do NOT understand Free Speech.
Is this something embedded in you by the German psyche?


If you don't understand hate-speech and rabble-rousing, read again what I said about it.
Your last rhetorical and offensive question doesn't need an answer.

All speech must be free….

I understand them perfectly, but you still do NOT understand Free Speech. Must be something in the German psyche.



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by MovieManCin2 August 07, 2022 08:32 AM
Member since February 19, 2018

I understand them perfectly, but you still do NOT understand Free Speech.
Must be something in the German psyche.


Will talk with you again after you descended your high rage-horse.



Edit
Put the original headline back in. ☻

All speech must be free….

No rage here, just telling the truth, which you seem to stubbornly reject.



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by MovieManCin2 August 07, 2022 08:40 AM
Member since February 19, 2018

No rage here, just telling the truth, which you seem to stubbornly reject.


Noted. ☻

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If they win, it sets a really bad precedent.

Wrong dummy.

If they win it sets a good precedent for media nutjobs to be truthful in their reporting.

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It set the precedent that free speech comes with responsibility.

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He had a "wrong" opinion on the Sandy Hook shooting and he dared to voice that opinion on his podcast.

is that it? I figured he must have been harassing the parents or something. If SH really did happen then yeah sure, it cant be nice for the parents hearing that shit at all, but what are they suing for? Hurt feelings?

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Yes. This is what america has become because of the woke. The most logical solution is all out civil war to thin the herd and rebuild anew.

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^ Gets it.

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It was more than just a "wrong" opinion, it was a defaming lie which caused incredible harm to the parents, some of whom had to keep moving from place to place to escape the death threats and harassment from Jones' mindless fans.

You literally have no capacity for judging right from wrong, fact from opinion. Luckily, adults are running things and he's hopefully going to be hammered with a large settlement.

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It's astounding that the majority of folks don't get this. And the parents have a right to sue civilly for defamation. This guy had the right to say what he wanted but it comes with also facing the consequences.

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That's my understanding as well.

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Thank you.
Yes!
Finally a voice of reason and one I agree with among these brain dead morons sticking up for a brain dead moron.

Those idiots, unlike you and me, just don't get it.

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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How about making political threats against the parents of dead kids and sharing their personal info and home addresses to crazy people to go stalk and harass and shoot at them?

Fucking moron

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sharing their personal info and home addresses to crazy people to go stalk and harass and shoot at them

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Are you retarded or what?

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He did no such thing.

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Yes he did ‘tard

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Yes he did.
He doxxed parents of the dead children of SH where they ended up getting death threats and other forms of harassment.
Still think he has the freedom to do that?

"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

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He doxxed parents of the dead children of SH where they ended up getting death threats and other forms of harassment.

Alex doxxed them? Did he give out their addresses and phone numbers on his show? If you can provide evidence of that I'd like to see it because I don't believe he did that and he wasn't charged with that.

Wolfgang Halbig, a guy who appeared on Alex's show, harassed some of the Sandy Hook parents and was arrested for what he did.


Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theorist Who Doxxed Victims’ Families Arrested

Jan. 27, 2020

A Sandy Hook hoaxer and ex-InfoWars contributor who doxxed the families of the 2012 mass shooting was arrested in Florida early Monday morning for unlawful possession of personal identification, The New York Times reports. Wolfgang Halbig spread misinformation about the shooting, which killed 20 first graders and six educators in Newtown, Connecticut, for years. Using Alex Jones’ program InfoWars as a platform, the 73-year-old was able to raise tens of thousands of dollars by convincing people that the mass shooting that a government hoax to take away Americans’ firearms. After Leonard Pozner—the father of a 6-year-old shooting victim—attempted to stop Halbig from targeting others affected by the tragedy, Halbig allegedly released a 100-page credit report on Pozner that included his address and personal data. Halbig also taunted the parents of other Sandy Hook victims, sending them pictures of individuals who he claims are their children “all grown up.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sandy-hook-conspiracy-theorist-wolfgang-halbig-arrested

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OK so I admit that I was going by what others claimed on here.
So maybe Alex did not dox the surviving and grieving parents but his associate did and Alex did nothing to stop it and that is bad enough.
It was also brought up that what his writers were doing was unethical but they went ahead anyway.
Again, Alex can be blamed since he can decide what to read or not or whatever.

What is done is done and the plaintiffs had a case since the judge tossed aside Alex's BS claim that his free speech rights were being violated.

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Just to be clear, Jones totally encouraged his listeners to harass the parents.

Jones even shared addresses, maps and personal information associated with the families of Sandy Hook victims, including revealing information about Pozner.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/04/28/alex-jones-sandy-hook-january-6/

And then when Noah Pozner had social media sites remove disinformation about his dead son, where conspiracy theorists claimed “his son didn’t exist,” Alex Jones got even angrier and just reinforced the lies after Noah told InfoWars to stop. And then people started sending him death threats and he was forced to relocate multiple times to avoid them.

Whichever way you attempt to spin it, Alex Jones was totally responsible for inciting violence and harassment against those parents.

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I like how you put wrong in quotes as if it's debatable what he said wasn't completely and totally untrue. He's not a dissenting voice, he's a massive liar. He denied history and the murder of children. He called victims of murder and their families actors. That's slander.

Free speech? Fuck him. And you.

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Fuck him.
He is an asshole who deserves to be lose lawsuits and to be shut down for spreading lies and misinformation and other bullshit through his media platforms.

The asshole was warned and he ignored those.
Still want to be on a liars side knowing that?

A former Infowars employee testified on Friday that he warned the outlet's writers multiple times that they were violating journalistic ethics in their coverage of the Sandy Hook shooting — only to be met with "laughter and jokes."

https://www.insider.com/ex-infowars-employee-i-warned-sandy-hook-coverage-was-unethical-2022-7

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He was liek want some undies?

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I heard he tried to " hawk " his supplements when he took the stand in court. I assume hawk means advertise?


I dunno man, would you buy health supplements from a rotund man who claim they work?

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Kirk, stop it

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"What has Alex Jones actually done wrong?"

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Here's Alex's 7 minute response:

Alex Jones Responds To $4.2 Million Sandy Hook Verdict

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by /. August 05, 2022 02:12 AM
Member since April 2, 2019

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It's interesting.
Worth to watch.
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