Christopher Nolan : Nolan is the best?

Nolan is the best?

Can't help but chuckle at the mere thought of Nolan as the greatest filmmaker that ever lived. The way you fanboys endlessly prop him up is pathetic! Treating him like a god? What a joke. Kubrick and Scorsese wipes the floor with him.




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Only those who didn't watch Nolan's films do not contemplate him as the greatest filmmaker of all time.


Nolan, I love you forever!

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And attempt at humor i presume?

Nolan is a competent, above avorage filmmaker with a few good films in his filmography, but that's all. No måtter how much you attempt to artificially inflate his alleged genius.

To even think Nolan is capable of rivaling the greats of cinema to which their films have stood the test of time is utter insanity.

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Just think about this.

When ever in history did a filmmaker made 7 masterpieces in just 15 years, never made even just an average film, had this big of a following, made this much money, made his name as recognizable as the industry-leading actors and never polarized or devided critics and audiences (not as important)?

I understand that non of his films were even able to stand the test of 40 years, but everything points at this being a walk in a park for nearly all of his films. Memento, The Dark Knight and Inception are all widely considered top 10 movies of a century as well as having no problem going up against all time classics. Yes, I am looking at Godfather and Citizen Kane.

In terms of just straight up track record there really is no doubt that Kubrick is the best. However... he was in the industry for nearly 40 years, Nolan is making equaly good films with way higher frequency.

He is well on track of becoming the best of all time. Unless, of course, you consider this title retired to someone like Hitchcock without whom our generation of filmmakers wouldn't be what they are.

Oh, and just BTW Nolan is a genius with an IQ of 147. Anything above 140 is genius or near genius.

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There is so much truth in the above post. His critics can't seem to understand that.

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Perhaps it's because his critics don't see them as masterpieces.

Completely shallow films dressed up as important, and intelligent, and massive pacing issues would be top of my reasons to not agree.

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When ever in history did a filmmaker made 7 masterpieces in just 15 years


Nolan hasn't made seven masterpieces. In terms of lasting legacy, only Memento, The Dark Knight and Inception seem likely to outlive their own fanbase.

Hardly anyone talks about his other movies. Following and Insomnia have incredibly limited appeal, likewise his best movie, The Prestige. Batman Begins has been eclipsed by TDK, Interstellar has already been forgotten, while TDKR is dreadful.

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Interstellar has been forgotten? its funny how it is in offical iMax website as full sized image when you click on few links. I think all theaters rises the Interstellar as most cinematic success in industry. Even so he is indeed one of most gross-making movie director. That is fact I believe (it is on internet, not sure if true but It is on internet).

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I agree with you in all of it, but theaters rises Inception as the most cinematic success in industry. :)


Nolan, I love you forever!

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Nolan is the most over rated film maker around. People like to act like he is up there with Hitchcock, Kubrick, Spielberg, Scorsese, etc. His first 2 Batman movies are good. Everything else is mediocre at best. He is great at making a 6/10 film.

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Said the man who can't write words 'overrated' and 'filmmaker' correctly.


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Strong argument.

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do you mean spell?

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Kubrick is the most overrated director of all-time. Nolan is overrated, too, but Kubrick is far worse. People worship his movies as if they are artistic and brilliant. A Clockwork Orange, 2001, Eyes Wide Shut, The Shining - all steamy piles of *beep*

Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon are good though.

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2001 is one of the best film ever made. you just don't have intellect to understand it.

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Lol

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you just don't have intellect to understand it.

Hey! Don't steal our arguments. It is a registered tradephrase of Nolan fans.


Nolan, I love you forever!

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Haha.

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But why all the hate? His movies are very good, since the first time i saw Memento i knew there wa something good in Nolan's directing then i saw Inception and was fascinated with it, maybe we can't compare him with some of the favorite old time directors but theres no need to all that hate on him.

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Maybe Ku 5b4 brick. They could be evenly matched, but over time...time can tell. However, Scorsese is not even close to Nolan's level right now. Nolan made much better films than him already. Heck, Shyamalan beats Scorsese.

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Truly a most untrue statement, near blasphemeos! Nolan isn't Worthy of kissing kubricks shoes. They are not at the same level, nor will they ever be. Kubrick is heralded as the gold standard among filmmakers, Nolan like i said is a competent, above average filmmaker with a few worthwhile pictures in his filmography. That's it. They're light years from each other. The fact that you even dares make so foolish a statement prøves you're either: A an uncultured swine with only scarce knowledge of movies,or B simply a buffoon.

And scorsese? You mean to actually tell me the maker of such timeless classics: Taxi Dricer, Raging Bull and Goodfellas, all of which has stood the test of time and whose career stretches back decades, is a Lesser filmmaker whence compared to the ever as great and glorius Mr Christopher Nolan?

Is it april fools already?

oranges, truly.

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That's just like your opinion, man

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The best ever, no competition

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1. The Dark Knight? Steven's dark "Temple of Doom" forced the PG-13 into existence.

2. Nolan hasn't touch Kubrick yet, I'm fan of him but facts are facts.

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Nolan is very good at the depth and complexity of writing, and the control of pacing. However, his weakness is he never ventures out of his comfort zone, that is, his genre. But for masters like Stanley Kubrick or Steven Spielberg, they are cross-genre masters. So if Nolan wants to step up the game, he should consider venture out of his genre and try something different.

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He's the best. Although I think there's a filmmaker out in the world somewhere that is better. Alejandro G. Inarritu is a close second. Kubrick was great no doubt. Nolan is a better storyteller. That's what holds the cards on my end. That's being my hands because what else would hold the cards? Scorcese is so-so. Taxi Driver is fantastic. Goodfellas? Eh...so-so. Casino. So-So.

Neither of those films top The Godfather Pt. 1 or 2. And they inspired the genre. Did Scorcese direct King of Comedy? Did he direct The Last Temptation of Christ? Bringing out the Dead? Cape Fear? He had a few snoozers. However, I think The Aviator is brilliant. The Departed is amazing. Definitive crime drama. Everything from the music, the acting, and the film's pace. I loved Shutter Island. He turned what was probably a subpar book into something worthwhile. I never saw Hugo but I own the blu-ray. And Wolf of Wall Street was hilarious.

We have what we seek, it is there all the time, and if we give it time, it will make itself known.

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Coppola was the pioneer though. Despite having little success post-70's, With films like Jack. Contact. The Hawk is Dying? Or was it Youth Without A Youth? I always get the two mixed up. The Conversation. The Godfather Pt. 1 and II. Apocalypse Now.


We have what we seek, it is there all the time, and if we give it time, it will make itself known.

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When I watch most other films these days, I easily fall asleep. But when I put on a Chris Nolan film, I wake up.

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I'd place him above average as well. His films apart from some are usually boring.

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Akiro Kurosawa
Andrey Tarkovskyi
Riddley Scott
Alfred Hitchcock

all wipe the floor with Nolan and his shallow blockbusters dressed up as pseudo-intellectual dramas. Guy is ain't fooling me nor anyone above the average IQ that he's out there just for the money grab and is no better than the likes of James Cameron, Emmerich or Michael "I love the explosions" Bay

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My IQ is 145 and I think that Nolan makes his films because he needs to tell his stories. By the way, he spends the majority of his money which he's being given for making films on other films in the future to receive more creative freedom, didn't you know about that?

On the other hand, I think that only people like you with IQ below average can put Nolan in the same group with Emmerich or Bay, because they don't understand the half of what Nolan's films are about and what they show. And Cameron is actually a great filmmaker as well.


Nolan, I love you forever!

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Haha what a plank. For a guy who has a 'higher IQ' and come onto a movie board to stroke your own ego you sure look stupid.

I agree with linus-morkanus.

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On the other threads you've wrote that Nolan's films makes you emotionally engaged, so I should ask, if you agree with my opponent, whose films you find emotionally engaged for you as well, Bay's, Emmerich's or Cameron's, because linus-morkanus wrote that Nolan is no better than them? I hope you have enough IQ to understand my question.


Nolan, I love you forever!

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Stop with the IQ angle mate. I think Nolan is a fine director, but comparing him as one of the greatest already I find baffling. I thought Interstellar was great you know. But then, I found some of his other films tedious and boring, and in there stems why I don't understand his hype.

He goes more for the epic-grand scale. There's nothing wrong with that. But I find 'Dumb and Dumber' more of an enjoyable film and every bit of a filming triumph as say, Inception. Nolan wouldn't have a clue how to make a comedy & likewise (I'm guessing) the Farrelly brothers making a sci-fi. It's just posh directing that critics swoon for. James Cameron can do the whole sci-fi adventure thing but also make it FUN and this will be something Nolan will never have the ability to do in his career unless he has help. Apples & oranges, but yeah.

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thank you!!! don't forget bergman

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He's not even the best director of this time (90's-present); Paul Thomas Anderson, the Coen Brothers, Wes Anderson, Quentin Tarantino, and David Fincher are all far better filmmakers.

He's not a bad filmmaker by any means, and no one can doubt the influence he's had, but there's just this boring, lifeless quality to all of his movies. The Dark Knight and Insomnia are the only movies of his I can say that I've really liked, everything else is mediocre.

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Nolan is above average that's about it. He's not a Director that I anticipate movies from. I thought Interstellar was poor. His Batman movies were average at best.

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I thought Interstellar was poor. His Batman movies were average at best.

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Nolan, I love you forever!

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You'd think someone with a "145 IQ" would be able to do better than post stale meme replies. Your posts in this thread defending Nolan (on nearly every single reply, Jesus Christ dude), show an astounding lack of critical thinking abilities. Most people with IQ's that high don't show it off, and if they do they don't fail as spectacularly as you do.

Also, I get that you like Nolan's movies. That much is obvious. But have a shred of dignity and admit that he isn't the greatest filmmaker ever, and his films -despite being good & entertaining- are too flawed to be considered masterpieces. He repeats the same mistakes across his filmography (particularly in the past decade), and hasn't attempted to improve his abilities as a filmmaker, at least in the last few years.

It's a damn shame- because he probably could make a masterpiece if he brought a better writer on board and spent more time polishing the entirety of his films, not just the set pieces. Given his track record, I don't see this happening anytime soon.

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Your posts 5b4 is absurd, and I hope you understand that. If you think that's the way people with high IQ behave, you're absolutely wrong. I know where I need my brains and my knowledge, and it's my work and my studying. I go here, on IMDb boards, to relax and write some things about cinema. I'm not working here, and I'm not studying here, so why should I use my full brain potential in conversation with you, a man I don't know and have nothing to do with in reality? And which obviously is not happy with his own brain status, as writing the comments as full of envy as you do.

I admit that Nolan is the greatest filmmaker ever for me. That's my subjective point of view. If you're looking for the objectivity in such a question, good luck. His films are considered masterpieces, and they've listed in pretty much all the lists of everything they are trying to be (like Inception in the lists of the best sci-fi films, The Dark Knight films in best comic-book films), as well as his characters (Joker in The Dark Knight), and his ways of storytelling are an objects for styduing.

By the way, in the last few years he only directed Interstellar and Quay. One is a huge Hollywood blockbuster, and second is the little documentary short made for Nolan's own money and only by his own skills. Two completely different projects, which shows Nolan's incredible versatility.

A better writer? He got himself two Best Original Screenplay nominati 16d0 ons for Memento and Inception, and you're telling me about how "bad" screenwriter he is? So you consider yourself a better expert than the Academy of Motion Pictures? So what films did you write? Or where you're working, something that has in common with writing, to say such things?

And you're talking about the polishing, though his films are considered one of the most polished films ever? Seriously, I've read everything in my life, and never encountered the man who would have tell me that Nolan's films are "polished not much" in any side.


Nolan, I love you forever!

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I'm perfectly happy with my 'brain status' 😂. I don't know where exactly my IQ stands, but it's probably above average. I had a WISC test done a few years and scored in the 98th percentile for perceptual reasoning, and 90's in the rest of the categories. And I don't know where you see envy in my words. I'm a perfectly happy guy. My point is, that even if you aren't using your full brain potential, somebody with an IQ of 145 wouldn't write in the manner you do, unless English is your second language (nothing wrong with that).

Also, lay off with the exaggerations mate. Nolan's approach to storytelling can be studied as much as any filmmaker in the biz.

You mention his diverse approach to film-making in the 'last few years'. He's been making a steady output of films - one every two years or so, since 2000. Which is a bit of a high rate for someone writing their own screenplays. It's not shocking he decided to make a short with his own money.The guy is worth Hundreds of millions, he's approaching a point where he could finance a good chunk of his own blockbusters.


And yes, I do think he could find a better writer. Memento is probably his best piece of writing to date, although I haven't watched it. The Prestige has, surprisingly, a dissapointing first act compared to the tension brought in the finale.

In addition, I don't think you should base your opinions entirely off that of the Academy, or what people here on IMDB say. Oscar snubs exist, that's why the term was coined. The Academy is also tends to heavily favor anything in the area of drama, along with epics and period films. So a film like Synechdoche, New York, won't even get any attention at the Oscars because of it's sad ending and dark themes, despite being perhaps one of the most ingeniously written films of the last 25 years. Not to mention, a lot of oscar nominations equivalate to that of a filler spot. It's not exactly the case in that of Inception, and I haven't seen the other films it was against in that category, but it's writing was the lowest calibre out of all the nominees. Inceptions strengths lie in it's visuals, themes, and action sequences. Not the raw dialogue.

I haven't written any films, but I'd like to try. It's not easy, to say the least. I write a lot of random observations on the films I watch along with some minor story Ideas. I work better If I have the groundwork laid out for me. In my last year of high school, I was sort of lauded by a lot of my classmates as a great writer, which in the world of professional writing wouldn't put me too high. Maybe if I refined my abilities.



I've read everything in my life, and never encountered the man who would have tell me that Nolan's films are "polished not much" in any side.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiEJjx4YCZU One fumble out of a handful in Interstellar. Who's said his films are the most polished ever? Interstellar had some serious pacing issues. Polish does not equal a good film or perfection. When I talk about polish, I'm referring t 5b4 o the noticeable, often easily fixed mistakes. I'd say Kubrick and Kurosawa were the ones who had the most polished films in history. Seven Samurai, 2001, Strangelove, ect. Like when your work doesn't make sense on a math test, because you didn't check it before handing it in. I'm not surprised if you haven't met anybody who hasn't said that, considering cinephiles aren't super common.




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YOu are 1000% correct. Nolan shouldnt even be mentioned if you were making a top 30 of all time

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YOu are 1000% incorrect. You shouldnt even be mentioned if you were making a top 30 IMDb commenters of all time.


Nolan, I love you forever!

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"Nolan is the best?"

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I don't know if he is the Number 1 Best but I definitely do think that he is 1 of the Best.
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