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Re: My views on Christianity etc

A fetus is human life. Does "it" not also have rights? Is a woman's selfishness and irresponsibility more important than another human life? The woman in question shouldn't have been irresponsible to begin with. There should be consequences for irresponsibility.

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Of course an unborn fetus doesn’t have any rights and a woman is entitled to be selfish if she wants !

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Fetus, is just another stage of the development of a HUMAN BEING. It is just a term denoting age such as child, adult or elderly.

To claim that one believe in/loves Jesus and then turns around and calls Him a liar & denies the existence of the soul by advocating the murder of the unborn is a two faced liar themselves.

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I didn’t say it wasn’t a human I just don’t care for unborn babies I care about women’s rights as I am a woman myself !

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Half or those unborn are female themselves. Do you care about their rights or are you a lying hypocrite as well as a sexist murderer?

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If you don’t have breasts or periods you’re not a woman

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So you discriminate based on age and sex. Aren't you just a rotten little peach.

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No

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Yes. You said it yourself. If they are too young or male you could give a fuck. You made that very clear.

Your own words are the rope by which you will be hung.

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Listen you’re not more a Christian anyone you curse



And in the end I’m entitled to believe whatever I want

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Oh, yes. Point out my sins again because that worked so well the first time. Pipsqueak I am guilty of more than you could imagine but even if you could quote the list it wouldnt lessen your own guilt. Nor have I claimed to even BE a Christian. Did you know that christianity is not a religion? Of course you didnt. You obviously lack the self awareness to come to the realization. Of the 3 major differences between christianity and religion one is of importance to this discussion.

Being Christian is not something you identify as, it is something you do. If a person believes they are muslim then they are muslim. If a person believes they are Buddhist then they are Buddhist. If they believe they are hindu then they are hindu. But a person can believe they are christian and be dead ass wrong.

I'm entitled

Ahh.. the eternal anthem of the fool.

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If you’re not a Christian then why you preaching to me ?

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To be a Christian one must both know the Truth and walk in the Truth.

Just because one does not walk doesnt mean one can not know.

It is like speeding 90 on the highway. Just because we are because we are both speeding does not mean I am wrong when I tell you that:
A, there is a speed limit
&
B, the limit is 70

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Wtf I’m
Obviously not a Christian anymore so shut up

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No

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I agree that abortion is unethical. However, since the fetus is attached to the woman and dependent upon her for life, it's her decision whether to kill it or not.

The state has no business forcing anyone to carry a living organism in their body if they're too selfish to do so. That would be chattel slavery.

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I agree no woman should be forced to give birth

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Christians are supposed to believe that all human life is sacred. ALL human life!

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Well I’m a follower of Jesus and don’t tell me what Christians are SUPPOSED to believe I’m not like other Christians

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A follower follows. Someone who doesnt believe your word is true and refuses to follow does not love you.

Jesus said as much.

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What are you talking about you perv at naked women ! Fornicator !

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Pointing out my sins does not mitigate your own.

At least I know I sin and have broken Gods law.

You havent even reached to point of acknowledging that Gods Word IS law.

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Not anymore in my world

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in my world


Lol. What deluded self importance. It is not your world. It is not my world. It is His world. And in the end all will kneel.

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That's fine but in the meaintime I shall do what thou wilt

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Or to paraphrase this load of horseshit:

"God I dont respect you and I am not going to obey you because I dont believe you but I really, really do love you."

Your statement is about as useful as a used condom with a hole in it.

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Your statement is about as useful as a used condom with a hole in it.
I thought you fundies didn't approve of condoms or other prophylactics.

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Your bias toward believers has blinded you towards them.

I thought you fundies didn't approve of condoms or other prophylactics.

fundies. Sounds like a Klansmen describing his biased view of blacks. You are too blinded by your own hatreds to correct your own ignorance which is apparently profound. To my knowledge to only major group who has an issue with condoms are the catholics.

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fundies. Sounds like a Klansmen describing his biased view of blacks.
No, the term "fundie," short for 'fundamentalist,' is in no way comparable to the term 'n—-r.'

Stone-cold fact: You are a conservative Christian fundamentalist.
You are too blinded by your own hatreds to correct your own ignorance which is apparently profound. To my knowledge to only major group who has an issue with condoms are the catholics.
You accuse me of profound ignorance, and then offer a prime example of your own. Conservative Christians generally oppose the use of condoms.
There appear to be two reasons why conservative Christian religious institutions continue to oppose condom use. The first is that many rely on statements in the Old Testament, e.g. be fruitful and multiply (Tharao et al. 2006), while secularists believe that the Biblical proscription to flourish is better achieved by restricting the quantity and quality of childbearing. Since condoms remain a key component of all HIV prevention strategies endorsed by secular groups, we analyse the objections to their use in relation to contraception; to promiscuity; to sex education in the young; to church leadership; and to harm-reduction for HIV. Lastly, we consider signs of variation and change in the positions of some religious groups.

Religious opposition to condoms

Clement of Alexandria (AD195) wrote, ‘Because of its divine institution for the propagation of man, the seed is not to be vainly ejaculated, nor is it to be damaged, nor is it to be wasted’. The Catholic Church refined this concept 60 years ago when it promulgated ‘natural’ family planning (‘rhythm method’) as the only approved means of regulating procreation (Pope Pius XII 1951). However, introduction of the effective birth control pill 50 years ago revolutionised family planning, as many perceived it to be more protective and sexually satisfying than the rhythm method.

The second reason they oppose condom use is the fear it will encourage promiscuity (Krakauer and Newbery 2007, Foster et al. 2009, Aguwa 2010). In a world with lifetime mutual monogamy, virtually all sexually transmitted diseases would be eliminated. Unfortunately, throughout recorded human history, societies have been unsuccessful in imposing this stance.
Condoms and sex education for the young

Conservative Christian religious institutions that promote abstinence and fidelity believe that these practices prevent new infections, frequently citing Uganda as the exemplary model (Denis 2003). Programmes, whether school-based or government-sponsored, that promote abstinence- only are out of touch with the reality that many young people throughout sub-Saharan Africa are sexually active before marriage, and they withhold access to comprehensive sex education (Santelli et al. 2006). For example, nearly 40% of women and 40-45% of men in sub-Saharan Africa have had sex by age 18, and more than 75% of women and more than 60% of men, by age 20 (Biddlecom et al. 2007). Clear evidence is found in many societies that abstinence-only programmes are less effective in delaying or reducing teenage pregnancy than are ‘abstinence plus’ programmes that use a hierarchical approach that promotes abstinence first but also condoms and contraceptive information (Perrin and DeJoy 2003, Dworkin and Santelli 2007, Kirby et al. 2007). This is good news for preventing teenage pregnancy but also for reducing disease transmission. The inflexibility of religious precepts of conservative Christian churches suggests the need for secular groups, e.g. schools, to encourage educators to refine their definitions of moral precepts to protect young people against AIDS. Restrictions on access to HIV/AIDS information and condoms impede public health and, in turn, the right to protect health (Human Rights Watch 2004).

A Seventh Day Adventist Church in Zimbabwe punished five youth members by suspending them from a gathering when condoms were discovered in their cabins. This church believes that condom use leads to promiscuity, which is seen as a violation of the sixth commandment (Makahamadze and Sibanda 2008). As the Pastor and camp's Youth Director said, ‘If the health workers come to teach about HIV and AIDS and the risks associated with it, I will welcome them. But if they talk about condoms, I will tell them to go to hell’.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3178341/
See also: Why Does the Religious Right Hate Your Birth Control?
Hatred of sin? Political calculation?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sexual-intelligence/201706/why-does-the-religious-right-hate-your-birth-control

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The contempt you project makes them very comparable.

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That's purely in your head, not in anything I said.

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It drips from every comment you make pertaining to faith

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Were I to express contempt, it would be clean, neat, and properly contained. No dripping. But emotion-based invective is not my way.

Seriously, that's a 'you' problem. And you're using it as a means of avoiding answering on-topic.

You're a fundamentalist, full stop. Own it.

Your posting style reminds me of The_Unconquerable_JEC. Are you he?

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No. Never heard of em.

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I believe Jesus is god ok
Why?

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I’ve seen stuff

Why are you so obsessed with me?

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There's medication for that, you know.

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I take medication I thought you knew ?

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And even at that it happens

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If only you can see it, chances are good that it isn't part of objective reality.

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