Star Trek Continues : More fanish than Phase II

More fanish than Phase II

To be honest I don't really find this as a very professional production. While Camera angles, the lighting, and acting in general is mostly excellent, storywise it's rather lame and rather boring. So far 3 throwback episodes to past moments in TOS and only one original episode?

The stories are not that well thought out either or written that well either.

Episode 1, While it was nice to see Micheal Forrest make a return playing Apollo, the whole story is badly thought out. If there is a god organ in Apollo why wasn't it detected in the original episode this one is based after? Why did they go the whole jesus Route of him doing good to gain powers? And helps him stay young? Why did they put him on a strange planet where he can be labeled a god because of the good deeds he does and uses his powers for those deeds? And why the changing of the wigs? Yes I know the wig thing was answered by some of the staff to represent him gaining and losing power... But if it's going to require me to have to find out from the staff for what it means, it means the idea is badly thought out and needed more work to properly incorporate the idea into the story.

Episode 2, the only original episode they have. The bad part is that it plays out exactly like a TNG episode.Why is Kirk got to go through consultations with his senior staff? Why is Kirk having to consult starfleet? It's the final frontier, he should be using his gut, not consulting starfleet. In fact any message he would send to starfleet should take weeks unless they are near a starbase which they shouldn't have been at all. They should have also kept out the whole flashback scene. It plays out like a rape scene. Just show us Spock himself acting out the emotions that are through the girls head and memory and describe what is happening, like classic TOS. And While it's ending is somewhat original, it's a more modern day staple rather than a 1960's staple of 1960's television. What's worse is I don't even feel connected to the Lolani character and I don't even feel upset that she died at the end.

Episode 3, the Mirror universe episode, while interesting plays kirk off like a lunatic like archer in Enterprise, Nothing interesting there... And the whole spock story of him taking over the enterprise is to short and doesn't explain a lot. If a bit more was added to the episode it could have done more. To be really honest about it? Spock's Putsch should have failed especially if they don't want to look like they are referencing later stuff in Trek.

The most recent episode has to much going on to make me care about it. It's teaser runs to long, it's got to much filler that obviously as it shows, makes Kirk an emotional wreck and yelling at people, obviously unfit for command. All the filler is just filled with so many past interests that you just don't care about them. If we had just gotten the one from the Farragut which was original, I think it would have been interesting, instead of throwing everything including miramee's unborn child and the kitchen sink, it would have been good. Also keep out the holodeck. The holodeck, while an interesting concept itself, it forces the story to revolve around the holodeck and not the character Kirk or the world that they should be helping.

Nothing about this fanfilm series is that interesting. Can we get something actually like Starship Exeter?

Out of all the TOS fanfilms "The Tressaurian Intersection" Still stands out as the best ORIGINAL TOS fanfilm with both acting and script writing.

The other fanfilm groups like Continues and Phase II, they just feel like more circle jerking the same old idea's and concepts from TOS that we've already seen.

Yes it's wonderful you can recreate the lighting, camera angles, and acting from the day, but when it comes down to the actual scripts... They are worse than Season 3. Let's not forget season 3 was the more forgettable season of TOS, not to mention getting caught up in the Phase II circle jerk of revisiting old characters and old worlds we've already seen.

I hope they stop trying to write there own scripts and actually try and get actual sci-fi writers involved like TOS S1 & S2, and get actual editors to rewrite the scripts in case they don't have the TOS feel to them. And I don't mean have Vic Mignogna edit the scripts... God keep him away from them.

We've already seen what he's managed so far with the last several episodes, and it's garbage to say the least.

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It doesn't take weeks to get a message to the closest local starbase and its Commodore. Its not a great episode by any chance, but the other day (on a TOS rewatch) it was "Alternative Factor" where Kirk has a live conversation with Star Fleet about the entire sector blinking out, and is left there as bait as the only ship in the section. Kirk has had to deal with Ambassadors and Star Fleet authority repeatedly throughout TOS. They weren't on the far frontier; they were in an area that contained both Orion and Tellarite ships. Communications shouldn't be a problem at all.

Kirk in "Fairest" was perfect - it was his dark animal sides from "Enemy Within" all nurtured to their fullest, necessary for him to keep his Command in that type of world. His baser instincts were in control. Consistancy with Archer shows the mindset of the Universe. The ending was a nice parallel to Khan; now Kirk is the one abandoned and searching for revenge.

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I still have hopes for this production, if they can get some really interesting NEW stories made. I don't want to keep revisiting old stories. But I am very happy with the production values.

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What do you expect from Vic Mignogna?

He made Star Trek Continues out of personal spite toward James Cawley and Star Trek-New Voyages Phase II.

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yeah.... he's a life long Trek fan that has dreamed of being Kirk since he was 10, but sure, he has spent years and tens of thousands and endless work-hours just to spite Phase II. GTFO.

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Consider who you're replying to.

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Is that another account for Sentinel/Christopher?

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You tell em feenix219.

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I've tried to watch several Trek fan TV episodes/films and overall the quality was so bad, that outside of Star Trek Continues, I couldn't finish almost all of them.
"World Enough and Time" was decent (nominated for the Hugo) and I got through it but even with that episode sometimes the acting was very poor, at the level of a small town theater production.
Star Trek: Of Gods and Men was unwatchable after just a few minutes due to the poor editing and camera work.

- Imo Star Trek Continues is way above the rest of the Trek fan efforts.
While some people seem to dislike Vic Mignogna a lot, to me his portrayal of Shatner's Kirk works.
An argument could be made that Vic is as good as Chris Pine in that role.
And a decent actor as the Kirk character is the foundation of what makes ST Continues so good. And this has attacted more talent to the ST Continues productions. Besides better actors; the lighting, camera work, sets, sound and music are right.
I have watched every ST Continues episode and I look forward to more.

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An argument could be made that Vic is as good as Chris Pine in that role.
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Anyway, Chris Pine's Kirk as a hurdle is low enough for a quadriplegic to vault over.

Ya know, this BB-15 carries a somewhat obsequious aroma... isn't the Abramverse in desperate need of some fan-tween service?

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STC is the closest thing that comes to capturing the feel of the original TOS of the 60's - production, characters and writing. I've fully accepted the actors as the original characters which is something that other productions fail to do. It helps to have a Mignogna and Doohan who resemble their counterparts and Todd Haberkorn has come to embody Nimoy's Spock. I am also impressed with their connections to bring in some amazing and talented guest stars.

Lou Ferrigno did an absolutely amazing job as did Fiona Vroom in Lolani. Michael Forest added much more depth to Apollo in his reprisal than was given to the original character.
The actresses who recreated Kirk's past loves were convincing and touching as well. I know that this series will only get better and I'm looking forward to many more episodes.

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I love it. And most seem to agree, it's gotten a great response from critics and fans. AS far as the scripts go, episode 1 was ok. There are definitely worse TOS scripts. Episode 2 was great. A real tear jerker.
Haven't seen eps 3 and 4 yet, but re-visiting the mirror universe seems exciting.

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I like all episodes except last one "Divided We Stand" Episode5. I Realy don't care about American Civil War. Nor i am interested. Maybe someday. Tought its intresting that i didnt had any history class lesson about ACW in School all other wars, conflicts etc except ACW.

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Just watched Fairest of them all. Absolutely terrific. Great script, acting wasn't too bad in this one either. It's was really cool to see what happened on the mirror universe after Mirror, Mirror.

STC is not an official commercial product but this IS Star Trek.

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O.P. You're out of your mind. I'm a huge Star Trek fan ; and have been for 37 years and counting. Phase II is absolutely awful. Star Trek Continues is better than a " fanish " series ; it's a beautiful homage ; and dare I say it's the fourth season we've never had. I love this show. My wife loves this show. If nothing interests you, why did you come to complain, if you've nothing to add ? This show was not made for you. Go enjoy the *beep* movie remakes, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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STC definitely feels more like TOS. They just need better stories.

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romanticinsomniac - Couldn't have said it better.....

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@sakurakitsune.. i think you either work for phase 2 or know someone who does. Continues blows the doors off Phase 2

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narlyjonson - Amen!

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all trek fan films are now ended thanks to the parasites at paramount and their draconian rules!

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Please don't blame Paramount.... blame the guys at Axanar that went overboard and crossed every single unspoken rule of fanfilms. Building a for profit studio infrastructure with the donations instead of filming their movie? Copywriting Trek stuff as their own, like the Ares? Selling Axanar/Trek label COFFEE? Paying themselves a salary for making the movie? Paramount has always played nice with STC (and is still allowing them to release their next episode, so who knows..).... but this was pushed to the very limits by the people at Axanar, and you can not blame CBS for having to put their foot down in this scenario.

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This would have happened anyway. You don't think that "star trek renegades", a cheap, crappy attempt to pitch a pilot using Trek characters as their old characters raised red flags at CBS. You are obviously connected to Star Trek Continues.

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They actually approached CBS before they even made the pilot, and showed it to CBS before they released it.... Sounds like you are connected to Axanar, maybe? Or is this just another account of Christophers?

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I was unaware that they had contacted CBS. I have no connection to Star Trek except watching it, and I don't know who Christopher is.
Notice that you avoid telling us how you're connected to Continues?

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I'm not - Continues is what reignited my passion for Trek, and got me back into it for the first time since I was a younger teenager. I'm a TOS fan through and through, and rather dislike the Next Generation shows. If you search through this boards history, all of the most fanfilm and Continues bashing comes from a well known troll named Christopher Brent. He spent years slandering Continues, while obsessing over Phase II.

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http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2015/01/02/star-trek-renegades-near-ready-for-cbs-review/

http://griddaily.com/cbs-no-star-trek-renegades

It was always intended as a possible pilot for a new show. CBS had no problems with it being made; they reviewed it and said No Thanks; They knew full well it was going to be released to the public the entire time, and had no issues with it.

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1. Go and watch Who Mourns for Adonais? again. They did detect the organ in that episode.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Mourns_for_Adonais%3F As to the rest you complain about a lot of stuff without even bothering to say what's wrong with it. It's a decent screenplay; one could do worse, much worse.

2. They often interacted with Starfleet Command in TOS; it's not new. Go and watch TOS again.

3. It provides the answers to the questions many have wondered over the years about what Spock would have done and could have done given the challenge our Kirk gave him. That alone is very interesting.
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