Music General : Mark Zuckerberg sought to use a Pink Floyd song in advert, soundly rebuffed

Roger Waters Tells "Little Pr**k" Zuckerberg To "F**k Off" Following Request To Use Iconic Pink Floyd Song For Ad

Pink Floyd song writer Roger Waters slammed Mark Zuckerberg during a press conference recently, announcing that the Facebook owner had offered a “huge, huge amount of money” to use the iconic song Another Brick In The Wall Part II in an advert for Instagram.

Speaking at an event to raise awareness about imprisoned WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Waters noted the deep deep irony of Facebook wanting to buy and use a song that rails against ‘thought control’ and mindless conformity.

Waters described the development as part of Zuckerberg’s “insidious movement… to take over absolutely everything.”

Waters read out Facebook’s request, which noted “We want to thank you for considering this project. We feel that the core sentiment of this song is still so prevalent and so necessary today, which speaks to how timeless the work is.”

“And yet, they want to use it to make Facebook and Instagram more powerful than it already is,” Waters urged, adding “so that it can continue to censor all of us in this room and prevent this story about Julian Assange getting out into the general public so the general public can go, ‘What? No. No More.’”

“So it’s a missive from Mark Zuckerberg to me… with an offer of a huge, huge amount of money and the answer is, ‘f**k you! No f**king way!’,” Waters boomed to rapturous applause.

“I will not be a party to this bullsh-t, Zuckerberg,” Waters added.

He then asked “How did this little pr**k, who started off going, ‘She’s pretty, we’ll give her a four out of five. She’s ugly, we’ll give her a one’… How the f**k did he get any power in anything?”

“And yet here he is, one of the most powerful idiots in the world,” Waters emphasised.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-roger-waters-tells-little-prick-zuckerberg-fk-following-request-use-iconic-pink

An ironic sentiment, considering Roger's avid use of Facebook and his very recent butthurt over Gilmour disallowing him to use the Pink Floyd Facebook page.

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

^^Interesting.

Yeah Roger Waters wrote most of the songs stupid.

Why are pollies shitty books on the Pink Floyd site?

You're just another dumb right-wing cunt who doesn't know her ass from a fucking vagina.

Anyone who uses the stupid word butthurt is probably a 12-year-old hipster want to be shit-faced.

I'm sure this bitch started hating Julian assange as soon as he criticized her fucking hero Hillary Clinton. Dumb American kids who never fought for anything in their life.

"Right-wing."

I've got two tickets to see Roger Waters, front row, next year.

But sure, I hate him.

"I'm sure this bitch started hating Julian assange as soon as he criticized her fucking hero Hillary Clinton."

I thought I was right-wing…?

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

See, stupid.

Hillary is right wing. Write that one down, just not on your forehead all while you view the mirror which I'm sure you do to perfect the boy hipster shit haircut you had. Thanks for removing that shit Avatar, that fake woman you put up is more real than you.

Why are you so angry? It's a thread about a musician, dude. Relax.

Agreed about Sofia Vergara, though. She's a fucking bombshell.

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

Why do dumb bitches like you tell other people that they can't see to relax or calm down? maybe you need to calm down but really I don't give a shit because I'm not in the same room as you and I can't see your face right now so I'm not going to make any other dumb assumptions.

But keep changing the subject because you look dumber with every response, maybe someone else can reply to you since it's obvious you need a friend or someone to talk with.

The subject was Roger Waters. You turned it into an ad hominem tirade, for whatever reason. The point is: it's entertaining to see Roger condemning Facebook whilst directly benefiting from its unprecedented ability to connect him with fans. If he was really so anti-Facebook, he'd leave the platform altogether.

Your opinions are pretty harmless, so they don't bother me.

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

Okay let's just get to the brass details and forget the personal stuff that really isn't a big deal because that's just the way this board is but forget that shit.

Because the US government doesn't enforce the Sherman antitrust act, it's very easy for a big company to complete mergers and essentially become a monopoly. Six companies run almost 100% of the media which is not up for debate and if you want you could listen to Joe Biden stressing the need to pass the telecommunications act of 1996 and you can see it on c-span.org, since it was just on TV a few weeks ago - they usually post most of the things from TV to their website.

Maybe you hate Verizon but it's the only cell phone tower near you, and perhaps the only one that works. 20 years ago you could live without a cell phone but now it's been replaced as a means of communication. The public square was the way to communicate to large amounts of people throughout most of History. Again that has been replaced by a few companies like Facebook and Twitter and Google, etc.

The Federal trade commission and more than 40 States accused Facebook of basically buying up its rivals to illegally squash competition. Facebook's acquisitions of Instagram and WhatsApp eliminated competition that could have challenged their sole dominance, and as a result has almost complete power when it comes to communication which everyone knows is mostly superficial, but also able to spread to hundreds of millions of people within seconds.

The Obama administration was pressured by consumer advocate groups to block the deals for Instagram and WhatsApp but like usual he only helped the top 1%, despite saying the opposite of his later actions when he was campaigning.

This kind of argument you make is even worse than those who tell other Americans to love it or leave it because they criticize the country.

Refreshed at just the right time, it seems! Thank you for the detailed and eloquent response. It is genuinely much appreciated. I'm always down for a civil debate, but I reserve the flame wars for posters with whom I currently have some sort of feud. As of now, I have absolutely no issues with you, and therefore have no reason to insult you. It's boring, yes, but a hard aspect of the personality to change.

As you said, though, personal insults aside:

I'm actually fully in agreement with you regarding the problem posed by monopolies. In regards to Facebook specifically, sure, technically other forms of social media exist, but who's really using them? If you're a mega-celebrity, fans can be directed to your website, of course, but for we average folk opting out of Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/Google (and, with Google, YouTube) essentially means opting out of any sort of online presence entirely.

That reality should absolutely, 100% should be dismantled. The government needs to do its job and destroy these monopolies.

Roger's stance in general isn't what I'm criticising. He is famous enough to have many of his fans follow him to his website, even if most would be too lazy to ever bother doing so.

It is my personal opinion that Roger would have much greater efficacy than we would, obviously, if he were to make it a point to boycott Facebook. By continuing to use it to further his own agenda, uncensored, it almost undermines his own point.

It's not that he HAS to leave Facebook, it's that he could make a hell of a profound statement by doing so after condemning Zuckerberg the way he has. If he could make even a minute splash by abandoning the site and disallowing the posting of his copyrighted music to the site, it would be far more powerful a move to go for that route.

As you said, though, it's a tricky situation. Even if people were to show their displeasure with Zuckerberg by sucker-punching him in the wallet, where else would they go? Facebook has crushed its competition beyond any hope of resurrection.

Roger would lose a good chunk of his ability to communicate with fans if he were to leave the site, it's true. So, perhaps, he's just doing what he's always done: 'sticking it to the man' in the loudest way possible. Using Zuckerberg's platform to denounce him and the monopoly he's established in front of millions of people is certainly the most effective way to spread the message, even if it will draw some questions as to why he continues to use it if he so heavily refuses to be associated with it.

The main difference between us comes down, I believe, to idealism (he should stop using it and put his money where his mouth is if he actually hates it) versus practicality (he doesn't really have a choice; there's no other venue if he wants to get his message out).

Tl;dr, you make excellent points, and considering it, you're correct in that Roger really had no other choice if he wanted the word to be spread.

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

I apologize to you. I have had a lot of horrible shit told to me today and honestly I just have no idea who's who and thought a recent sock who attacked me for no reason could have been you. I can't prove any of this so I just avoid guessing but I'm sure contributed to some dormant anger and assuming it wasn't you, I'm going to assume that it wasn't you and again I apologize and thank you for a sincere response. Just thinking about these issues get me quite upset and maybe angry, so you're probably right about that.

The last time the government really enforced any of these antitrust laws was when JFK did it in 1961 I believe, with general electric which at the time and to this day is still very very powerful. The reasons were quite benign compared to today. JFK had executives from GE go to prison for price fixing.

I said I'm not exploring I can't even score I can't boycott Facebook but as you said people are lazy to check a website. But beyond that I don't think people are consciously thinking about whose website to check today. People go on Facebook or Twitter and expect to get everything and to see everyone they follow in one page.

I don't think Roger needs the money so that's not an issue he would have. but I think he realizes that he's near the end of his life approaching and doesn't have as many productive years to try to help with progress but to also see it happen in his lifetime. Just thinking about if you were to post something right now on Facebook millions of people will see it and hopefully serve as a conscience reminder and the idea that human rights on a universal scale is the way to go, regardless of the consequences from detractors. It's the emperor's no clothes thing but even someone is popular as Donald Trump who had 80 million followers on Twitter have to close his personal website blog because no one was checking it. And I'm one of those lazy people who haven't gone on Rogers home page in quite a long time because I expect to see everything on social media, and those companies know this which is why too many people are hesitant to stop posting on there and then you have some who are extra sensitive who will self-censor themselves.

If there's something that annoys the hell out of me it's all the people who keeps saying how they loved Roger Waters and Pink Floyd when they left politics out of it. Which has been never. Roger has been writing political commentary since the 1960s, and then when I counter that to those critics they reply telling me how David gilmour is more preferable because he's not political. Again that's a complete lie and there's so much information to disprove what they claim including the last time David and Roger played on a stage together. It was David who asked Roger if he would come on stage with him for a Palestinian benefit, and it was a hell of a show. And I get really angry with those people not because I personally have anything against them since I don't know anything outside of their words but because I feel like I've been swimming and glue, and can't understand why active people in politics disregard the most important issues while focusing on gossip. I think there's a huge disparity between talk and action in American politics anyway. Just before reading your reply I saw another minor report as a follow-up to propublica's findings of how billionaires pay nothing in taxes. What really angers me is that those who say it now for political experiences were the ones who made it so that the ruling elite could take advantage of the many loopholes. I've also come to the conclusion that I won't bear any of the fruits but there's just something in me that doesn't like misconception and the idea of how a very small number of people can fuck over 8 billion people. It's power drunkenness. I'm saying so getting taxed a few extra pennies won't change their bank account but it just might be ego and the audacity to keep getting away with it.

Sorry for the massive delay! Errands and chores came knocking. I wanted firstly to say that whomever was being a dick to you wasn't me; if I have something to say, I'll say it on my main. Secondly, I wanted to say that I appreciate the apology, but it isn't necessary. This place is perfect for venting! It's better to let out that pent-up stress/anger here rather than in front of real-life friends and family. Everyone has bad days, and it's perfectly okay. I hope whoever has been bothering you leaves you alone, and soon.

You're right on the money throughout this entire post. It makes me laugh too when fans complain that Roger is 'too political.' Floyd has ALWAYS been political. Did they even listen to Animals, or to The Wall? Do they think Roger strong-armed the band into playing political pieces when they wanted to keep themselves out of it? Roger could never make Gilmour do anything, and vice versa. They've always been political. The only difference now is that Roger is more outspoken than ever, whilst Gilmour has faded into himself and seems to enjoying something of a more private existence.

I've also come to the conclusion that I won't bear any of the fruits but there's just something in me that doesn't like misconception and the idea of how a very small number of people can fuck over 8 billion people.

Yep. It's even more confusing when the people being most affected by the 1%, the impoverished few barely scraping by, processed "food" on the table and medical issues they hope aren't anything serious but can't afford to get checked out, are the most avid supporters of said 1%. They comfort themselves with the delusion that they too will be rich and powerful one day, when they make their big break and everyone realises how wrong they'd been to ignore their greatness. They vote like they've already made it: like any vote that burdens the wealthy (and by 'burden the wealthy' I mean to hold them equally accountable to everyone else) will someday burden them, too. They're voting selfishly for a version of themselves that does not, and will never, exist, and fuck themselves over whilst smiling broadly about how thankful they'll one day be for it.

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

He needs to smoke weed and listen to some Floyd. That ought to mellow him out.

Some Comfortably Numb, Atom Heart Mother, Echoes, Astronomy Domine, Brain Damage, or Marooned could mellow even the most kingly of Kongs.

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

Well said!

“How did this little pr**k, who started off going, ‘She’s pretty, we’ll give her a four out of five. She’s ugly, we’ll give her a one’… How the f**k did he get any power in anything?”

“And yet here he is, one of the most powerful idiots in the world,” Waters emphasised.

Waters just keeps hitting them out of the park.

I loathe the Zuck, but I’m sure a simple no would have sufficed

lol, good point. It's almost as if his reply was carefully tailored to be its own little publicity stunt.

Roger Waters was awesome enough with Pink Floyd, but just gets cooler with age.

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https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List

what does this part mean: ‘She’s pretty, we’ll give her a four out of five. She’s ugly, we’ll give her a one’

what does that mean, when did he do that?

Good for PF or RW for NOT selling out.
At least to FaceFuckBook.

I think a more appropriate song for Insta. would be Def Leppard's Photograph.