Christopher Nolan : Is Christopher Nolan the next Stanley Kubrick ?

Is Christopher Nolan the next Stanley Kubrick ?

Is Christopher Nolan the next Stanley Kubrick ?

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no I am

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Nope. Christopher Nolan is his own filmmaker. Both directors have a very distinct wonderful style/body of work imo.

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I absolutely love Christopher Nolan, but have a hard time liking Stanley Kubrick's work. I mean, he's visuals are phenomenal, especially for at that time. But, and it might be that I'm missing out on something which I probably am, his movies always seem to lack a good story. Yes, I get that he's a great director and I respect him for that. But he creates movies that are either so story free and bland that people are only left to be mindlessly caught up in the visuals and direction or the story is so well conceived and hidden that it isn't even enjoyable anymore to try to find the story. Nolan seems much more capable and successful in creating a captivating story. Again, that's only my opinion. However, I still respect Kubrick because he is a great director. But after watching a few of Nolan's films, I can't help feel like Nolan is trying to live up to Kubrick. There are so many comparisons in the movies. A Clockwork Orange = The Dark Knight (Both consist of an evil and maniacally lead character who's hellbent on making the world burn and leaving it for chaos and madness. Heath Ledger even said his Joker is partly based off of Alex), 2001: A Space Odyssey = Interstellar (A mission in space to explore an unknown disturbance with artificial intelligence that causes issues while the main character travels through a wormhole type creation in the end), and Full Metal Jacket = Dunkirk (War movie lol). I'm not saying that Nolan isn't original because he has plenty of fantastic ideas in his movies. I'm just saying that Nolan might look up to Kubrick and is possibly influenced by him and don't be surprised if the next Nolan movie after Dunkirk is a horror movie (cough, cough) The Shining (cough, cough).

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Yes, if we talk about the importance for the cinema world and a scale of creativity, Nolan is really comparable to Kubrick.


Nolan, I love you forever!

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what an embarrassment you are

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Unlike Nolan, Kubrick didn't do remakes.

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I have wrote about importance for the cinema and a scale of creativity. How exactly remakes are connected with this notions?


Nolan, I love you forever!

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Yeah, I don't think Kubrick did sequels either. Kubrick probably wouldn't be caught dead doing a superhero film.

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Batting for OP, I think this is a very silly way to compare the two directors. I feel OP meant, their influence to their generation and distinctive style more (than technical similarity). That's how I would see it at least.

Both of them are remarkable film makers with different styles of film making. A lot of people did not "get" Kubrick in his days and even later (Some of the best films ever made: 2001, Eyes Wide Shut, Killing)

Guess what would have happened to The Following, Memento, Inception & Interstellar if it weren't for the Internet, IMDB and Piracy (Sorry, but isn't that a fact?)? I feel most people (including myself) wouldn't have understood the master that he is if we didn't talk about his work much as we do now. Just my thoughts.

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He didn't do comics either. And not three times...

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Isn't The Shining technically a remake of a Stephen King book?

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He wasn't averse to adaptations, he made The Shining.

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Practically every Kubrick movie was adapted from a previously published novel. Only his early "Killers Kiss" was an original story.

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No. You'd have to be A) mentally ill or B) unfamiliar with Kubrick's work to even suggest such a thing.

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No,but he doesn't need to be.

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I knew that the Nolan devotion would be high on this thread, but...

Calling a director 'the modern *insert director here*' is degrading to both's body of work. Nolan is a different director than Kubrick, and two people will never make the same art. Comparing them ultimately shorts both; if you call Interstellar the new 2001: A Space Odyssey, you rob both of the individual experience they can bring. By comparing them, you make both feel similar and leave both feeling less original than you may have felt they were originally. Comparing Kubrick and Nolan does the same thing.


To be completely fair, though, I didn't really think Nolan was on top of his game with Interstellar. The Dark Night and Inception were damn fine films, though. Damn fine.

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You, sir, have the hart of a poet!

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Please explain how he is a "modern Kubrick?" I've yet to see anyone make a clear argument for this. On the reverse, let me explain just how different they are:
- Christopher Nolan makes blockbusters that are accessible to the average movie-goer. Kubrick did not. His films were not in-line with the status quo (despite how people might think in retrospect). They in fact challenged it so much that many of his films were hated upon release.
- Kubrick was obsessed with the subconscious. How our sexual desires and primitive urges influence behavior of human beings, especially in areas isolated from the larger society. THIS is his most prevalent theme, found in almost all his work. You will see his films littered with phalic symbols and other Freudian stuff. None of this is present in Nolan's work... At all...
- Kubrick was not about spectacle. His films are not driven by entertainment value, but rather their transient nature and determination to ask questions that are so often deflected within our politically correct society.
- Kubrick used visual subtext to relay messages that are hidden on the surface. Nolan uses dialogue and exposition explaining every last detail to make sure even the laziest of viewers don't miss out.

Honestly, I don't see where this comparison between the two directors comes from. They couldn't be any more different. But in reality, no two Auteurs are the same (let alone being the new "blank").

238 But just for fun, I'll try such comparison.

Christopher Nolan is the new Stephen Spielberg... Paul Thomas Anderson is the new Stanly Kubrick.

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That's BS right there. Nolan is the new Kubrick. End of story. Deal with it

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He's got my vote

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Lol the only people who are delusional are Nolan fanboys. Nobody puts this guy on a pedestal except for all of you.

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actually, Nolan Haters are the only people who don't want to admit that he IS KUBRICK

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actually, Nolan Haters are the only people who don't want to admit that he IS KUBRICK


Except for critics and film historians and film teachers and true cinephiles and other filmmakers and cinematographers and producers and actors and distributors and even a large percentage of big Nolan fans. Pretty much everybody on this planet who is aware of what Kubrick tried so hard to do in Film and that deserves so much our respect and profound admiration.

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I'm hardly a Nolan hater. I loosely compared him to Stephen Spielberg, the man who literally invented the modern day blockbuster. Thats a pretty damn good compliment if you ask me.

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And an overly generous one if you ask me...

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Yes, its BS, I guess people are still butthurt and delusional to face realty.


So the delusional ones are the ones who present strong valid arguments, the non-delusional ones present Z-E-R-O!!!
In the industry or in film school, you would go so far and people would take you so seriously! Keep it up.

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Great argument...

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So he just took time to explain why the two are completely different and all you could answer was "BS!!!! DEAL WITH IT!!!!", what a compelling argument. You win.

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No. Just like Fincher isn't the next Hitchcock.

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These fools will never give you a good comparison between Nolan and Kubrick simply because they don't know what the Hell they're talking about. If they were truly familiar with Kubrick, his filmography, his intentions, his subtext, etc they wouldn't be making such comparison.

I sort of agree about Fincher except that Hitchcock (being the master that he is) had an unrivaled sense of creativity that he brought to his films. Fincher is just a very technically proficient director with a great choice of movies. I'm not trying to belittle Fincher, just that I don't think he's displayed (so far) the same amount of creativity.



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Is M. Night Shyamalan the next Alfred Hitchcock?

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Comparing Kubrick to Nolan is like comparing the Mona Lisa to the last Playboy centrefold.

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No, that would be Paul Thomas Anderson or David Fincher.

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Some of the greatest works of World Literature weren't good enough for Stanley Kubrick to adapt to film. He was constantly reaching for the sky.

Nolan thought superhero material was good enough to make 3, 4 movies from. He is constantly reaching for the audience's pockets.

These silly people have no idea at all about the relevance of Kubrick's remarkable body of work. All they care about is superheros which is a very silly thing that only geeks CAN'T SEE that it's silly.

I used to get upset whenever a nolanite would compare Nolan to Kubrick but now I'm actually enjoying it because not only it's a thing that will take care of itself, it will also bring a nice bonus: Nolan will come out of this discredited because sooner or later people will realize (if not already) that only silly and ignorant people (ignorant about Film, no offense) seem to exaggeratedly praise him. That's the kind of people he will be associated with.











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no. nolan and kubrick are much different.

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No. Struggling hard to see the remotest connection.

In fact I give up. Suggest you watch some Kubrick.

You surely must be confusing him with someone else.

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Yes he is. Although his movies aren't cryptic like Kubrick's with layers of hidden meanings, he also leaves his moviegoers in same awe and aspiration the way Kubrick did.

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But Kubrick didn't leave audiences with awe and aspiration. Most of his movies leave the audience depressed, confused and dumbfounded. One of his main themes was dehumanization, specifically through war; films like Paths of Glory and Full Metal Jacket are bludgeoning and end on a downbeat. The audience leaves the theater feeling bad about themselves.

Ditto A Clockwork Orange, Lolita, The Shining, Eyes Wide Shut.

Kubrick made sardonic, satirical, cold but darkly comical movies about pedophiles, rapists, war atrocity, nuclear annihilation, domestic abuse, psychosis, sexual jealousy and robots that "evolve" to become more brutal than the humans that created them.

He didn't make movies about sulky billionaires dressing in rubber costumes fighting crime. He didn't make movies about secret agents invading people's dreams. He certainly didn't make movies about warring magicians engaging in a needlessly complicated revenge scheme about nothing!

Nolan is basically just the acceptable Shyamalan. They're two sides of the same horrible coin. Both rely heavily on gimmicks (twist endings specifically); both are obsessed with brooding white men suffering from guilt and grief; both make logic-free movies that are horribly contrived in order to justify their third act twists; both are humorously humorless, sexless and deeply pretentious.

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So Nolan is the only director that leaves audiences in "awe"? I have never been "awed" by a y of his movies, just very entertained througout and then feeling dissapointed afterwords (in some cases). PTA leaves audiences in "awe" the same way Kubrick did, in which the initial reaction is "WTF?"
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