Politics : Death is a deterrent

People fear it.

The leftist tripe that the death penalty is not effective is bollocks. As I asked that stupid fuck warren can you name 1 executed criminal who committed more crimes?


And since that dumbass vegan will no doubt add his two counterfeit cents let me pose this question to him before he even gets started. If you were a robber would you rather attempt to burglarize a house who's owner you know had a gun or one you knew did not?

As for these ass clowns, a No Shit Charlie message needs to be sent. They should be executed publically.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-crime-police-outline-worst-worst-repeat-offenders-some-more-than-95-arrests

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

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My password is password

You need to have more faith in the boundless breadth of human stupidity. Look below. I spread the corn and behold the hogs have come to feed. Next we slaughter.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

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😺 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 🤨 Let's go, Brandon! 🤨 Try that in a small town.

Capital punishment has shown no effect on decreasing crime, it is also a huge financial drain, not to mention a violation of the constitution and basic human rights.

shown no effect on decreasing crime

Naturally it is pretty hard to prove a negative but I will ask you can you name 1 criminal who committed crimes AFTER their execution.

No?
Well there is your decrease.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

Criminals also don’t commit crimes when they’re given life sentences. The death penalty is also twice as expensive, so is a pointless waste of time.

You’re only in it for the sadistic blood lust, not for any useful benefit for society (of which there is none).

Maybe move to North Korea or Saudi Arabia if you crave state-sanctioned murder so much.

Bingo, exact and right on.
I could not have put it any better myself.
You OWNED Scum Venom with that argument.

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"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

I could not have put it any better myself.

Because you are just as dumb as mr sheeple.
You stupid fuck

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

Criminals also don’t commit crimes when they’re given life sentences

Sure they do. They just commit them against guards and other prisoners. Murder, rape, robbery, extortion. Plenty of crimes are committed in prison.

The death penalty is also twice as expensive, so is a pointless waste of time.

Since the penalty can be exacted with a 50 cent bullet all that means is that the system is broken. Why is it broken? Because anti-death penalty morons have been allowed to erect a ridiculous series of legal hurdles. Fix that and lets get the locomotive back on the tracks.

only in it for the sadistic blood lust

And there you are just attempting to demonize someone you disagree with because you are just really fucking dumb. Do you think that Travis shot Old Yeller because he enjoyed killing? No. He recognized that it was simply something that had to be done. The people we are talking about stopped giving a fuck. They enjoy causing pain and death or felt justifyed and would do it again. In that way they are just like a rabid animal with no control. They have to be put down. There is no blood lust to it. If there was I would be advocating measures intended to cause extravagant and painful death. I am not. Simple cheap and direct. That is what I am for.

You are just a moron.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

"Do you think that Travis shot Old Yeller because he enjoyed killing? No. He recognized that it was simply something that had to be done."

LOL
You are going to compare a fictitious situation to a real life one?
Stupid shit for brains.

"The people we are talking about stopped giving a fuck. They enjoy causing pain and death or felt justifyed and would do it again."

Serial killers MIGHT do it again or else they stopped before they were caught.

There are other murderers who only killed once and that was it.
Like a husband who killed his wife.

Being locked up for life is enough.
Depending on their age it gives them a really long fucking time to be there.
Like a couple of recent mass school shooters.
They are very young and even if they don't get put on death row they are in there for life and their lives are nowhere near being half over.

Thing is murdering a prisoner on death row ain't going to do a thing to stop future murders from happening by anyone else and it won't bring back those he killed.

Besides your blood lust, what good is murdering them good for?
Nothing.

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"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

It's not bloodlust. You were told this but you are obviously to stupid to catch on. And real or fictitious the example stands.

Some folks ain't afraid of the idea of life behind bars. Or like you they ain't smart enough to appreciate the concept. But most of them do fear death. That IS something most understand. And while the thought of life in a cage doesn't scare them the thought of dying does. And knowing that those who do the worst are being executed for it does make many reconsider.

You stupid fuck

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

"But most of them do fear death. That IS something most understand. And while the thought of life in a cage doesn't scare them the thought of dying does. And knowing that those who do the worst are being executed for it does make many reconsider."

Proof of this?

Let's say for the sake of argument you are right. You are not though we are going to pretend you are for the moment.
That maybe anywhere from 10-20 murders per year are not carried out because the potential killer quit when he thought of the DP.
10-20, or whatever number it is?
Big whoop.
There are not enough prevented murders by the DP, if any at all, to have any significant impact on murder stats.

Of course some guy who reconsidered killing his wife and brother when he caught them in bed together is something he would keep to himself.

So to suggest that there are those who thought of the DP and quit is nothing but a guess.

You are just grasping and reaching for an argument based on emotions.
You have to show proof to back up your claims.

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"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

That is not the point dumbass. It’s not preventing others either.

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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

I don't care if it isn't. You kill someone and under certain circumstances, you don't deserve to live.

The penalty phase is currently ongoing for the Parkland shooter. The jury has to determine whether he'll get life in prison or death. Hope they give him the needle: I've heard it burns like your veins have been set alight.

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Hark! Harold the angel sings.

I really don't care about the lives of needlessly violent people or rapists, but I'd rather see more proven ways of deterrence, and not ones that cost so much.

not ones that cost so much

It is part of our system that is broken and needs streamlined. Shouldn't take more than a 50 cent bullet.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

Society and the system is broken, because of Scum Venom attitudes like yours. You are placing a band aid fix on something, because that is easier and the most superficial.

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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

If you were a robber would you rather attempt to burglarize a house who's owner you know had a gun or one you knew did not?

You’re beyond stupid, the gun itself would be highly desirable to a criminal. They could easily sell it to make money or use it in some future crime. You’re also twice as likely to be shot and killed just by owning the gun.

As usual you are the dumbest bitch on the board.

VICTIM RESISTANCE AND OFFENDER WEAPON EFFECTS IN ROBBERY
NCJ Number 142068
Journal Journal of Quantitative Criminology Volume: 9 Issue: 1 Dated: (1993) Pages: 55-81
Author(s)
G Kleck;
M A DeLone
Date Published 1993
Length 27 pages
Annotation
Logistic regression analysis of more than 4,500 sample robbery incidents reported in the 1979-1985 National Crime Surveys provided information about various forms of victim resistance during robberies.
Abstract
Results revealed that self-protection of any kind apparently reduces the probability of the robbery being completed. Armed resistance is more effective than unarmed resistance; resistance with a gun, although relatively rare, is the most effective victim response of all. Resistance with a gun also appears to reduce the likelihood of the victim being injured. However, two types of resistance appeared to increase the risk of victim injury: (1) unarmed physical force against the robber and (2) trying to get help, attract attention, or scare the robber away. The robber's possession of a gun also appeared to inhibit victim resistance, which can sometimes provoke a robber to attack; robber gun possession thereby reduces the probability of victim injury. However, even controlling for victim resistance, robber gun possession is associated with a lower rate of injury to the victims. Tables and 45 references (Author summary modified)

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

By that logic, gun theft wouldn't exist.

If someone gave you a gun as part of a firing squad you would be too chickenshit to pull the trigger.
Sure, you talk tough and put up this persona but you are really just a soft hearted sap and a wimp.

The Death Penalty is murder.

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"Please vote to preserve the unique character of Warren…" - Robert Duvall

Putting down a rabid animal is not murder.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

Well, yeah people fear it. But it's not really doing much to deter criminals from committing heinous acts.

People also fear going to prison. However, it doesn't seem like that fear is really stopping them from committing crimes. If a person is desperate and/or crazy enough to commit a crime, then they'll do it.

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Mephistopheles is just beneath and he's reaching up to grab me.

it's not really doing much to deter criminals

How do you know? Criminals don't exactly call in to report the crimes they didn't do because they feared being killed. People fear death more than being locked up and just as criminals avoid fucking with people they think might be armed they try to avoid doing shit that will get them put on the row in places that exercise the death penalty. People may still do things row worthy in the heat of the moment but those who take the time to plan and premeditate tend to go to places with less risk.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/murder-rates/murder-rate-of-death-penalty-states-compared-to-non-death-penalty-states

Seems that murderers do more murderin' in states with the death penalty than in states that have abolished it.

Also…

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/act500062008en.pdf

MYTH
Individuals are less likely to commit violent
crimes, including murder, if they know they
will face punishment by execution.
FACT
This argument supposes that criminals
study and anticipate the consequences
of getting caught, and decide that a long
term of imprisonment is acceptable,
whereas execution is not. Many crimes
are committed on the spur-of-themoment, leaving little opportunity for
potential punishments to influence
whether the crime is committed in the
first place as criminals do not believe
they will be caught and held to account.
The death penalty may even cause
further violence. Execution is the ultimate
sanction a state can inflict upon a person.
Once criminals have knowingly committed
a capital offence, they no longer have any
interest in lessening their potential
punishment by not committing further
murders or other offences. For example,
if armed robbery carries the death penalty,
the robber loses nothing by committing
murders while attempting to flee.

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Mephistopheles is just beneath and he's reaching up to grab me.

Game, set and match.

~Rocketman

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But but but, you care about life remember. Abortion is a deterrent in preventing more scumbags infesting the planet.

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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

The average time between sentencing and execution in the U.S. has increased sharply since the 1980s. In 1984, the average time between sentencing and execution was 74 months, or a little over six years, according to BJS. By 2019, that figure had more than tripled to 264 months, or 22 years. The average prisoner awaiting execution at the end of 2019, meanwhile, had spent nearly 19 years on death row.

A variety of factors explain the increase in time spent on death row, including lengthy legal appeals by those sentenced to death and challenges to the way states and the federal government carry out executions, including the drugs used in lethal injections. In California, more death row inmates have died from natural causes or suicide than from executions since 1978, according to the state’s Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.

This is the part of the system that is broken.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

This is the part of the system that is broken.

The part of the system that is broken, just like the US health care system, is that it is corrupted and rotten to the core with festering, puss infected boil attitudes like yours.

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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

Still bitter are we?

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

Must be, when reading your drivel….

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Norman! What did you put in my tea?

I believe it can be a deterrent for some but not for others.

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Just because I'm not on THEIR side, doesn't mean I'm on YOURS.

by Slug Bait July 26, 2023 06:11 AM
Member since April 12, 2021

I believe it can be a deterrent for some but not for others.

Nice bump
Trouble maker. 🤠


https://filmboards.com/board/p/21455720/permalink/#p21455720

A deterrent for some. A cure for others.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

You know what I'm talking about though. Ted Bundy wasn't deterred. He couldn't help himself.

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Just because I'm not on THEIR side, doesn't mean I'm on YOURS.

How many has he killed since '89?

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

I get it. The state killed him so he won't kill anymore. The only point I was making is that not all criminals will be deterred.

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Just because I'm not on THEIR side, doesn't mean I'm on YOURS.

And MY point is that if they are dead they ARE dettered. Permanently.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

When you end someone's life they are incapable of being deterred, since they are dead and incapable of a feeling of deterrence.

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Just because I'm not on THEIR side, doesn't mean I'm on YOURS.

Yet killing one scares others. Dont have to scare all, just… enough.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

I think it is nescessary in the world we live in now, not as a deterrent but as a form of erradication, and not for murder but for crimes which are a problem to society, such as people/drug/sex trafficking, pimps, rape (proper rape), you give them six months and they'll just come out and be doing the same thing again.

Good job Millard. Conservatives came to that conclusion decades ago but better late than never.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

If you were a robber would you rather attempt to burglarize a house who's owner you know had a gun or one you knew did not

One with a gun. I’d wear Kevlar, so when he shoots me, I can say “hahaha, Hillbilly!”

And then I’d take his gun, and shoot him in the leg. I’d then strap him in a chair with restraints.

I’d pull down his pants so his ungroomed penis is exposed.

I’d say sultry sexual comments to turn him on.

As I say “the election was rigged, they went overboard with the Covid lockdown, Jesus is totally a real person” I’d watch his dick grow harder and more erect.

He’s getting ready to cum. He moans, as I say “prophecy! TikTok is bad cuz China! It was totally Hunter Biden’s coke! Children are getting trafficked right now!” Then he lets out a loud moan as the ejaculate shoots out of his penis, all over the room.

Anyway, I pull out each one of his remaining teeth. “You had funds for this gun but never did you think to put these funds into dental work and skin care,” I’d remark. Then I’d shoot his obese wife who’s probably watching and crying.

I would definitely rather rob a gun owner, if I were a robber, because then I wouldn’t have to be sympathetic for what I steal. I’d figure the person I’m robbing is evil, and deserves it.

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Monster, how should I feel? Creatures lie here, looking through the window.

You should totally try that. Even if his first shot doesnt hit you in the face and spatter your brains… just kidding! You have none of those!

Even with kevlar getting shot hurts. And he wont just shoot once. And when he realizes you have a vest he will adjust his aim.

You'rena troll. A particularly stupid one.

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"An armed man is a free man. An unarmed man is a fool. A disarmed man is a slave."

Imagine the executioner is a MAGA Republican and in his head, he’s thinking “hahaha I get to kill this liberal.”

No one should be allowed to pwn another human being like that. There should be a way to defend yourself against death.

I know for a fact that if someone were to escape their restraints and kill their executioners, they cannot be faulted for that, since it is a reasonable expectation to defend yourself against someone trying to kill you. The court cannot rule that prisoners in this situation must accept being killed without retaliation. That’s why their shackled.


The people who do the executions are amoral themselves. They have an incorrect view of the world. They should not be given that power.

If I could, I’d rescue each inmate and kill the executioners and guards.

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Monster, how should I feel? Creatures lie here, looking through the window.