Tom Cruise : Congrats On Your Oscar Tom

Congrats On Your Oscar Tom

Sending it ten years in the future because the boards are getting nuked

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You mean oscarS, right?


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Oh look you triggered them.

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What was it?

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An excessively long whiny salty ramble lol.

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Congrats to Cruise!

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With your imagination, you should be 238 writing fantasy fiction.

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I can pretty much guarantee he will get an Oscar, even if it might be a lifetime one say 15 or 20 years from now.

And even if we will see what he does as far as movies, in that way at least....he does deserve one.

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even if it might be a lifetime one say 15 or 20 years from now.

Yes, generally perceived, by the public at large, as a pity award.

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Charles Chaplin, Douglas Fairbanks, Bob Hope, Laurence Olivier, Greta Garbo, Gary Cooper, Henry Fonda, James Stewart, Paul Newman, Kirk Douglas, Peter O’Toole, Lauren Bacall, James Earl Jones.....if that is a pity party, then it is one I would like to be invited to.

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Didn't say it was an invitation to 1c84 a pity party. That being said, do you actually know what the term "pity party" really means?

I said it's perceived by the general public as a pity award ie often as a consolation prize for actors who who had not received an acting award, but are felt to deserve one. Take Paul Newman. He received his a year BEFORE he received his best actor award, presumably because it was thought that if he hadn't received one in his heyday, he was going to be awfully lucky to do so - which he probably was. Unless you consider his award to be like James Stewart's which was given for "The Philadelphia Story" and generally considered to be a consolation prize for not receiving one the previous year for "Mr Smith goes to Washington" So was Paul Newman's acting award for a body of work? Doesn't matter as that's irrelevant to the topic under discussion.

It's a bit like a British actor's knighthood: someone (I think it was Michael Caine) said last long enough as an actor and you'll probably get a knighthood. Stick around long enough and be high profile, have a body of work and you might have some chance of a lifetime achievement award, particularly if you don't have an acting one. It sounds like a consolation prize.

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do you actually know what the term "pity party" really means?
Think I do. Started with your use of "pity award" and then went with "pity party" set in the context of and juxtaposition to all those great names that have received that same award. Perhaps a bad imitation of Noel Coward, but at least thought knew what "pity party" meant (but feel free to correct if got it wrong).

Great info and history on both the Oscars and how British actors felt though, but that is right in lines with what I started with other than in assuring that Cruise would get that one consolation Oscar. And who knows, he could get one in the true one-film merit way, least if he gets over his high-budget action OCD fixation. If he does, my pet thought is as supporting actor in the role of a villain.

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If he does, my pet thought is as supporting actor in the role of a villain.

Playing completely against type is often seen as "Oscar bait' so that could well be accurate, particularly if it's a role that is compelling but doesn't hog the screen. I suppose Melvyn Douglas is a perfect example. He went from lightweight roles, and what I have read described as being "the leading lady's handbag" in the 30s & 40s to being a superb character actor and deservedly winning an Oscar for "Hud" after years of mainly appearing on TV. I suppose the most famous example of this would be Frank Sinatra.

Perhaps a bad imitation of Noel Coward, but at least thought knew what "pity party" meant

I don't know, I can't imagine the actors you mentioned getting together and singing "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to." Probably they be more likely to try and exchange Oscar Wildeisms (Ugly spelling, sorry) and topping each other with so-called witticisms.

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Cruise has shown what he can do a few times in darker roles. Lestat in Interview for a Vampire comes to mind, which is about the best acting have seen him do. Although haven't seen the flick, apparently he went admirably against his norm in Magnolia as well. So seems he has it in him, or at least did at one point. Unless you count Les Goodman and Rock of Ages, doesn't seem he has been too intent on challenging himself.

And for sure -- my guess is the last thing those greats were doing was feeling sorry for themselves when they got the lifetime award. Pretty sure Cruise won't when the day comes either, whether it his first gold guy or not.

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