Stanley Kubrick : Christopher Nolan has surpassed him.

Christopher Nolan has surpassed him.

Nolan's films are higher up in the top 250 list.

The Dark Knight - #4
Inception - #14
Interstellar - #32
Memento - #47
The Dark Knight Rises - #62



Kubrick:

The Shining - #58
A Clockwork Orange - #80
Full Metal Jacket - #87
2001: A Space Odyssey - #90


Nolan also has way more votes. And his movies are much better.

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You forgot Dr. Strangelove. And that's up to your opinion ( I don't agree, but I won't be an ass about it)

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And also Paths of Glory.

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"Nolan also has way more votes." using an appeal to popularity immediately makes your opinion worthless.

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Yeah dark knight is really the 4th best movie of all time dark knight rises in 62 is even more laughable..Memento is Nolans most clever film but its not popular so its the only underrated film in your list.
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You are an idiot. Nolan is not in the same league as Kubrick.

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He actually very much is. He may not be as "legendary" If you will, but there is no denying his skill behind the camera and meticulous attention to detail. He may very well be the best director of the next generation only rivaled by Alejandro G. Inarittu and Denis Villenuve. I may have forgotten a few names pardon me if I did feel free to mention them but you cannot deny Nolans brilliance as a filmmaker. And no I am not a "Nolanite" that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard I just love great movies and all I have seen from him are great movies so I am a fan.

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Christopher Nolan himself would strongly disagree with you...

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^ By those who don't understand great film. The rest realize his brilliance as a director.
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Kubrick's film - will always be the definitive version of The Shining.

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Your post is so misguided..you don't know what you're even saying. Nolan looks like a hack next to Kubrick. He's a solid director, but your logic doesn't really hold water. Those rankings are flawed, any of Kubrick's movies compared to Nolan's are superior. They are masterworks of art..While Nolan has some decent innovative films to his credit they fall short of Kubrick's work. You can tell Nolan was influenced by Stanley..and his work really lacks the deep layers of meaning and obsession with detail and symbolism that all of Stanley's movies have. Take the time to learn about filmmaking instead of just looking up the ratings on some app before you start blathering about something so ridiculous.

Pretty sure Stanley's movies have withstood the test of time and have stayed on many similar lists for decades..let's see where Nolan's movies will rank in the next 20 years. He may only have 1-2 still in the top 150. I like many of Nolan's films but he won't be the historical figure that Stanley is.

Silly fool. Now go b68 sit on timeout and think about things for awhile. Then watch EwS, CO,2001, Shining, & FMJ and let us all know if your opinion is the same.

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What about the OP's username that kinda gave it away?

Nolan, Spielberg, and many other "more famous" directors (based on public opinion) can't give Kubrick enough accolades.

Did you turn the lcd screen on before you watched these "surpassed" films?
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Kubrick's film - will always be the definitive version of The Shining.

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Nolan makes blockbusters that appeal to the masses and bring absolutely nothing new or unique to the table, I don't even think he can be compared to Kubrick.

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If there is a diner party Kubrick with the likes of Hitchcock,Kurosawa,Bergman,Welles,Hawks,Chaplin,Lang,Eisenstein,Tarkovsky and Scorsese would be at the table for the grown-ups while Nolan wouldn't even be allowed to sit at the kiddies table.And how can you consider someone a better director when that same director is trying to copy Kubrick in every possible way and failing miserably every time.Nolanites know sh!t about movie-art Kubrick's movies are four Michelin-star diners while Nolan's movies are a Happy Meals.
Nolan makes decent to good movies but The Dark knight is most certainly among Nolan's worst movies(together with Interstellar).

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Michelin only goes up to three stars lol. And honestly that's a little harsh. Kubrick's undoubtedly the better artist, but Nolan does not make "happy meal" movies. I like to think of Nolan as an introductory filmmaker to art films like Kubrick's work as well as Malik's (another huge influence on Nolan). You can view his films almost as work that bridges the gap between Hollywood blockbusters and the more obscure films of the avant garde genre. They basically make them more accessible.

And, for me at least, this is acceptable. Many people don't know about these artists that pioneered the form and introduced us to techniques and symbols and whatnot and what's great about Nolan is that he does introduce us to this work. Sure, it's not as great as anything Kubrick has made, but his next film honestly looks kinda promising. Besides, like one of the posters above said, who does know what will happen in 20 years?

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Michelin only goes up to three stars lol.


It was to demonstrate the exceptional quality Kubrick had.


I like to think of Nolan as an introductory filmmaker to art films like Kubrick's work as well as Malik's (another huge influence on Nolan). You can view his films almost as work that bridges the gap between Hollywood blockbusters and the more obscure films of the avant garde genre. They basically make them more accessible.


I don't mind Nolan but to me he seems at his best when he is not trying too hard to imitate the style or technique of other directors(Memento,The Prestige)


but his next film honestly looks kinda promising. Besides, like one of the posters above said, who does know what will happen in 20 years?


I hate to disappoint you but the way things are going in Hollywood I don't see that happen ,and that has nothing to do with the qualities that Nolan has ,but the system doesn't work like that anymore.
Kubrick had the fortune that he made his debut when the studio system was on it's last legs and desperate for new and different kinds of movies and movie styles to compete with the growing popularity of TV.Because of that new and talented directors were given the chance and the opportunities the develop themselves and were given freedom on the subjects they wished to film and because of that (and because of some profitable and critically lauded movies)Kubrick eventually got full freedom by the studios to do whatever he liked as long as he made a good movie(the only director who also had that amount of freedom was Chaplin but he owned his own studio United Artists).Because of that Kubrick got what he wanted the most; time!,time to explore (scenes,stories,settings,dialogue etc).Current movie business doesn't allow directors that freedom anymore or give directors unspecified amounts of ti 5b4 me for the director and actors to explore the possibilities.Nowadays the opening week makes or breaks a movie if that had been the case with a movie like 2001 it would have gone down as one of the costliest failures in the movie history(if it was released today) had it not been for the growing popularity it got in the weeks after the premiere which made it successful.Hollywood today is too much a business and not a place for true artists to mature.So I am afraid that despite the talent that Nolan has (and there certainly is)he 'll in the end will have to choose between art and commerce and I am afraid (like so many before him)he will have to submit to the corporate culture of Hollywood.

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You've got some pretty interesting points. I agree that the Hollywood system is kinda *beep* right now and is all about the money, but I feel that Nolan kinda has a free pass to do whatever the hell he wants after doing the Dark Knight trilogy. It's incredible success is the reason WB let him do Inception.

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Sure as long as Nolan keeps drawing in the box office numbers he has been able to draw so far but if he makes one or two movies that will do less well at the box office and that freedom will be taken away just as easy as it was given.
I think you must ask yourself how much of a freedom does a director nowadays have with budgets(in the case of Nolan)of over $100+ million dollars(not including promotion).A studio doesn't want to risk too much with budgets like that and won't allow things that are too different from what people are used to or if Nolan decided on a totally different approach than fans of Nolan expect or choose to make a movie about a less than commercial subject,as this would cause too much of a financial risk which most studios are not willing to take.That is why we have all these remakes and reboots because the established success formulas are safe investments(to a certain degree).

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"The reason WB let him do Inception".

There was no risk involved whatsoever - Inception is a big action movie stuffed to brim with all the Leos and Levitts and other pretty stars currently en vogue. And the more "cerebral" bits were explained at great length by characters standing around and, well, explaining it. As safe a bet as they come.



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I like Nolan a lot,but Kubrick is easily better.

And The Dark knight trilogy is overrated on ImDb

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Nolan. Lol

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They are both pretty good in their own ways.

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While I enjoy Nolan's films, I'm waiting for him to make a better movie than Memento, which I think is still his best.



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Nolan's movies are crap in comparison to Kubrick. I'm sorry but they are.

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WTF is this? You are using IMDB scores to conclude that chris nolan has "surpassed" Kubrick? what a joke...

Raging Bull = Best movie

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Kinda like saying that Taylor Swift surpassed The Beatles and Led Zeppelin and Bob Dylan and the Talking Heads and David Bowie in this weeks pole.


Or better yet- a parking ticket surpassed first degree murder in court today .


or TV remote control surpassed HAL in this weeks science pole 🔴




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Full troll! moves from board to board without replying. hmm

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Madonna has surpassed Mozart. Record sales = proof

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Burgers have surpassed Beethoven, booze has surpassed The Beetles, personalities have surpassed policies, bigotry has surpassed being, idiocy has surpassed ideas, prejudice has surpassed principles, commerce has surpassed culture, consumerism has consumed culture, the living dead stalk the earth ... with tomato ketchup on top.

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