And by the time he was carrying his cross after been whipped, whatever clothing he had most likely was reduced to bloody rags
It must be easier than address the point of my post
What translation are YOU using?
Islam literally mean "submission" (voluntary submission to God)?
Even I have picked up on the fact that the so called "peace verses" (the ones nobody objects to) are earlier ones (Mecca period) and the so called "sword verses" are later ones (Medina period). Is that accurate? That the verses more associated (rightly or wrongly) with violence and excess are the latter ones, which coincide with Muhammad's period after he attained power and started fighting (self defence, attack, power vacuum, whichever)?
Any truth to that?
Jesus himself never picked up any sword or spear
in the Quran, you can find numerous calls to violence and brutality
(he's the only human author, whatever divine inspiration was only he got it)
actual Arabic native speakers to take those verses seriously (literally) and go do horrific things
You won't find any crusader or abortion clinic bomber (or US presidents) ever quoting Jesus or his 12 disciples to justify their atrocities
the Quran is said to be literally dictated (not inspired) by Gabriel
Does it really matter? All religions work on the same principle of kow-tow to your God or else."
What's unique to Christianity and Islam is that both insist 'Everybody has to kow-tow to MY God, or else'.
But it certainly had no roots in mainstream Judaism, which has never included any such idea, or in Romano-Hellenistic paganism. And although the cult of Mithra paralleled Christianity in many ways, it made no claim to be the unique gatekeeper to salvation, either.
Then you must know Classical Arabic well enough. Is that so?
The term "submission" implies submit either to God or to his followers (while paying a tax). That second section is the problematic one.
- The OT was not written by ONE person
- The OT is INSPIRED, not DICTATED. Which means whatever revelation is there is mixed up with those author's limitations.
it doesn't say Jews or Christians should behave TODAY like the Israelites and the Judeans did when taking over Canaan
please put them here. Heck I'll even give you a little help: try www.answering-christianity.org, it's a Muslim website attempting to mirror and answer the Evangelical www.answering-islam.org.
"Isn't the Bible the Word of God? Your'e leaving bit of a loophole there if you say it is not. "
No it's not. It's a human produced document (written by humans) supposedly while inspired by God.
"The only 'big beard' I really respect is Charles Darwin"
Touche! Gotta hand it to you, good one...