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Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

I read that in some countries, they do this. i am ALL for it. however, addicts must go to a doctors office and be given the shot under medical supervision. they go to work, and when they get off, they get more.

This would decrease crime and overdose deaths. I am ALL for it. i support this. what is the argument against it??????????????

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Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

Ever hear of methadone or suboxone?

Remove Ibogaine from the Schedule I list.

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i know everything about subs. a lot of people that get it simply sell them to buy dope. then they don't have to worry about withdrawal because they have them

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Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

If you did, you would know the risk minimization model of trading one addiction for another, or enabling the addict to continue using does not work. Methadone is typically given in liquid form at the point of contact.

Cravings are the impediment; why not use substances that reduce or eliminate cravings or reset receptor sites so treatment can be effective….



Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

it doesn't work that way. countless people have their lives ruined from heroin. you can't eliminate cravings, even with nalazone. many people cannot function without an opiate because they were on them so long.

if it comes between someone leading a life of CRIME and misery or taking a heroin prescription and going to work and living a normal, productive life, im for the latter.

i have experience with this and i know, trust me, i have met hundreds f people with problems.

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Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

You clearly don't know if you think methadone is not basically what you suggested and it doesn't work.

Yes, you can remove cravings….with Ibogaine. Cravings are the key impediment to recovery. Ibogaine is listed as a Schedule I in the US, whereas it's legal in Mexico and Canada. The success rates with Ibogaine treatment blow conventional treatment away.

Trust me, I have long experience with this issue.

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dude, i have detoxed on both methadone and suboxone. i know what i am talking about. methadone is terrible, i hav known people that look DEAD from being on 400 mgs a day for 20 years.

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Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

Wrong. Tolerance love keeps going up until you don't even get high or enjoy it any more

So you tweak things and try mixing drugs and other drugs to get high

You try to stop doing drugs so that you can enjoy them again

That's when trouble occurs

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

Dude, you're suggesting prescribing heroin as a solution to opiate addiction (risk minimization). I said that methadone is given under that same principle and that it doesn't solve the underlying problem of ADDICTION. Your response is that heroin is a somehow "better" for addicts because you look better on it.

Coincidentally, who will pay for this program? Costs will only rise and keep rising, the number of addicts will climb, just like with methadone (which costs billions).

Have you taken Ibogaine?

Get rid of the cravings, detox the body of opiates and get treatment for behavior.

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

STFU cockscker ill do drugs whenever and wherever

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

Good point, cogent and well thought out.

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

Cogent my dick in your mom's anus

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

My Mom's dead from a heroin overdose.

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

She didnt OD before giving you birth? damn

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

I gotta say, you're making some good points…

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

Yeah it should be free

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

In a perfect world, all drugs would be legalized, regulated, and sold by the government but being realistic I think Portugal's model works better. Decriminalize all possession of drugs. If you're caught with them you go before a group of professionals that decide how addicted you are, and you're sent to rehab, not jail. If you're not an addict, then your punishment ranges from a fine to a ban on leaving the country, community service, etc. Drug addiction is treated as a health issue, not a criminal one. Which is a very wise policy that the United States should follow.

Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career.

Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

deported for using? never hear that. but i admire portugals drug policy, but we will NEVER go down that path.

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Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

I would sign up for this, and I've never even tried heroin…



Re: Heroin prescriptions for addicts - yay or nay?

Yes

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