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It's a DISNEY movie. I've seen far darker themes in Disney movies.

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Agreed!

The same kind that let's her 11 yo daughter fly intercontinental flight alone and doesn't even pick her t the airport after 2 months. Dreadful woman.

By all accounts, Elizabeth was a rather emotional and high strung woman when she was younger. She says she had a stupid temper and walked off hoping Nick would stop her. If she's also the type of woman who throws a hair dryer in an argument

It's probably spite based. She never wanted to see Nick Parker again. She was the one who decided that. She felt it would be fairer to let them each have one child than to keep ferrying them between the two parents.

Elizabeth is a loving mother but she's still a busy fashion designer. She might have had appointments the morning 'Annie' arrived home. That's why she has Martin go to collect her. Or she may have wanted to get the house ready for the surprise. She did at least have the intentions of spending the whole day with her daughter. From the impression I got, Annie didn't seem to spend very much time with Elizabeth anyway. She's expecting her not to want to come down to the studio with her

I'm gonna die of long hair!

now that i'm older i realize how twisted the plot was.





i've got feelings too, ya know

It really is! Yet, I find it kind of charming, and it seems many other people do, too. You can of have to view it as a live-action fairy tale.

Wow, the only thing I'm able to read in your post is how you let the dad off scott free while condemning the mom!

Personally, I just overlook the ridiculousness of the plot. It's a very enjoyable movie if you set aside the gaping plot holes and how unrealistic it is. I'm certainly not looking to it for any profound moral statements.

But if this did happen in real life, I don't think it's any more the fault of the mother than the father. If she's being selfish, so is he. They're both adults, they're both parents. Therefore, they're both equally responsible for their children. Then again, maybe neither are being selfish. It's impossible to judge a family situation without really knowing it. And also, why should it be that the mother should opt to "put up with" the father? It's just as likely that he would have to "put up with her." The movie does not suggest that their split was anything but mutual.

There are some men that are great single fathers. But the bond between a mother and child is much closer. how a woman can carry a child for 9 months and then just give it only one to the father and keep the other one, and never try to contact that child shocks me.

yes, he also didnt contact his other child, but there are many men that go years not seeing their kids, so that doesnt surprise me.

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But the bond between a mother and child is much closer.

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I just don't think that's a universal feeling. I know several people who are much closer with their dads then they are with their moms.

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im not talking about who the child is closer to, im talking about which parent feels a closer bond to the child.

i know there are many amazing single dads, and i know fathers can love their children and raise their children alone. but overall, it is the mother that feels the more closer bond. fathers can go years without seeing a child, the only mothers that do that are ones that didnt want the child in the first place.

my dad loves me, but he goes years without seeing me or calling me. my brother is an amazing dad, but time goes by before he contacts the kids he had with his ex. all the fathers i know love their kids, but its usually the mom with the stronger bond.

I am so sorry that both you and your brother's children had those experiences with their absent fathers. That must be very rough on you and on them. My condolences.

im older now, i try to go see my dad when i can. he isnt allowed in my house anymore. but i love him and try to go see him. he is in his 80s, im 30 now, no sense holding on to old resentments.

"Wow, the only thing I'm able to read in your post is how you let the dad off scott free while condemning the mom!"

Well said!

It's just a movie and everything turns out OK. Sad to say there are probably even worse people in real life!

it's based on kstner's "das doppelte lottchen", lottie and lisa, a german story written just after the war.

german children were at that time, and still are, as hard as nails and used to unfamiliar and difficult circumstances. what i guess you are finding unusual is the modifications the two better known film versions made to the original, and why.

Why should the man get a free pass on something like that? Then men should stop complaining about being taken to court and getting cleaned out for child support.

I agree that the situation was pretty messed up. So selfish of both parents to separate the kids just for their own conenience so they don't have to interact again. But it's a feel good movie nonetheless the actors were all very charming.

you are right, both parents acted selfishly. im so used to men whining about having to pay child support, even my own father didnt want to pay child support. he was more interested in wasting his money on women. my mom had to raise us by herself with no help from him. its just become normal for men to act this way. but it shouldnt be, both people are responsible for that life and both should be responsible to raise it.

if a woman has the right to abortion, men should have the right to opt out of child support, and sign away their rights






i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

true, i actually agree with you.
but my father was really selfish. they moved to the US and my mom worked with no pay at his auto transmission place. he controlled all the money. and after they divorced he never paid child support. plus, i dont think husbands that want to have the kids should be able to opt out. i can understand that option being available for single people.

i agree. if you have kids within a marriage you should pay child support. i'm only talking about men and women who aren't together, and the woman gets pregnant by accident. specifically for men who are famous/or just make a lot of money, and have a one night stand or a few flings with a random chick






i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

I've always found it odd how men are demonized for not wanting to be fathers, or saying they are unhappy if their girlfriend is pregnant. People will say men arent forced to have sex and should take responsibility. But women (unless raped) are not forced to have sex either, but the difference is women are praised and encouraged to have abortions whenever necessary. But if a guy wants an out when his partner gets pregnant, he is seen as a cad. For things to be equal both men and women need an out.

I would never want a guy to force me to have an abortion, but i dont want to force anyone to be a father if they dont want to. Unless, like i said, if we were married, and agreed beforehand that we both wanted kids.

Hopefully that happens, but who knows? =/

I loved the first version with Maureen O'Hara but thought the same thing about the parents (both versions).

Even if they did decide to split up the children, the fact that neither parent ever checks in with the other one to see how their other child is, was, to me, appalling!





This positively infantile preoccupation with bosoms!Terry-Thomas about US 1963.Hasnt changed much!

completely agree, I found it so odd that the parents didnt seem interested to even speak on the phone with their kid that they havent seen since she was a baby!

Ur stupid.

Is this comment directed at me? If you want to call someone stupid, sweetie, please use proper English. Otherwise, i can't take you seriously

Now ur moronic. U don't even kno how to short speed type online.

It's just a movie. A Disney movie. It's not meant to be taken all that serious.

im sure you have watched a movie and had an opinion about the plot or the characters??? or do you just sit there, watch the movie without thinking, and then never think about it again? why go to movie forums? its just a movie, why waste time talking about it in a forum if you have no opinion?

It's a fictional movie, not an excuse for you to rant on about the mother, while forgetting the father also had a daughter and he agreed to the plan. He didn't tell the daughter he had about her mother.

arent you also ranting about my comment? lol whatever you might want to think the mother is usually the one that feels more the responsibility to care for the daughter. many fathers spend years without seeing their kids, but you rarely see a mom do this. unless she gives it up for adoption willingly, or is a horrible mother. there are many awesome fathers that want to be the main one raising the child, but overall it is the woman wanting to do this.

You know what's worse about the mother? She didn't even know that her child was different when the switched places!! Everyone on the father's side knew something was different, the dad, the nanny, and the dog all said something's different about you, but the mom, NOTHING!! I feel like a mother/child bond would be the strongest, she should of picked up something.

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chiggity-check yourself, before you wreck yourself

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thats very true, i didnt notice that. i think only one person noticed in that house, the grandfather. lol

What kind of father does the same thing

true. but usually when parents seperate its the mother that raises the kids (unless she is abusive, or choose to adopt out the child for personal reasons.) either the dad is involved or spends years not seeing the kids. sometimes dads raise kids alone, but its more often to see a woman raising a child alone.

Agreed. The kids should just accept Meredith.

I 100% agree with you.

This post is stupid. What I gathered is the dad is blameless, and all moms love their kids more than their dads?

did you read through it all? no i dont think men are blameless, my father wasnt around much and that affected me a lot for many years. i think bother parents should be there, and a child needs them both. women do tend to be seen as the one that is closer to the child since she is the one that has the child, and usually the main one caring for the child. unless the dad is very involved, or a stay at home dad. ive seen both parents work and the mom still being the one taking care of the kids when they get home at night.

what i wrote to someone else over a year ago, all this was already asked and discussed.

"There are some men that are great single fathers. But the bond between a mother and child is much closer. how a woman can carry a child for 9 months and then just give it only one to the father and keep the other one, and never try to contact that child shocks me.

yes, he also didnt contact his other child, but there are many men that go years not seeing their kids, so that doesnt surprise me."

Just because that was your unfortunate situation doesn't mean it's like that for most families. Stop generalizing.

unfortunately it is. there are many dedicated dads, but its mostly moms that are dedicated (unless they are addicts or have mental issues). it might not be nice to hear, but its easier for a guy to turn his back on a child. ive seen it so many times. i know many dads that are there to take their kids out, but all the care is from the mom. a guy gets to impregnate a woman and never know if she hides it. a woman that has the child is because she wants it, and to go 9 months only to choose a worthy child and dump the other one seems disturbing to me. unless it was for an adoption out of necessity, which wasnt the case here.

she cared more about avoiding seeing her ex because she threw a hissy fit that she was willing to give birth and never see her child again. a woman because a mother the moment she carries her child, a guy only becomes a father once the baby is born. and some men dont even bother becoming dads once the child is born.


this is just my opinion, you keep telling me not to generalize but thats the only argument you are giving.

this thread is 3 years old, i havent changed my opinion. wont be bothering to respond anymore as everyone comments the same thing over and over.

So you're blaming the mother but not the father? Eff off with that sexist nonsense.

read through the thread and dont waste peoples time. =/ not repeating myself.

No. I don't care about your time. You made dumb comments.