Dawson's Creek : Do you think Joey and Pacey lasted after the finale?

In their last scene, they were both about 25 and living together in New York, and it was 2008. In that fictional world, do you think they are still together in 2016?

I don't. Them getting back together would have made no sense in real life. They were a couple in high school and it ended with a blowup. Then they tried again a couple of years later, and she turned him down for some guy who was really more of a casual relationship than anything else. Of course, that was explained later by saying she had been running from her relationship with Pacey all along, but that seemed like a copout. In high school, it was he who dumped her, not the other way around. In college, she literally told him she just wasn't feeling it for him and went back to Eddie. Then, 5 years later, they meet up after really not being in contact at all and magically end up happily ever after? I don't really buy it.

In high school, Pacey was always intimidated by the bond she had with Dawson even though she had chosen him over Dawson. Now that she has officially declared Dawson as her "soulmate," how is that not going to be an issue? That's Joey having her cake and eating it too - having Dawson as her soulmate and Pacey as the guy she's sleeping with. I just really think that would have caused a rift between them at some point. I don't see these two growing old together at all. Maybe they stayed together for a year and then went their separate ways. Pacey and Andie ended up finding each other again, and Joey ended up back with Dawson (after the two of them both had time for some much needed maturing).

I like to think they did. But probably they didn't for the reasons you said.

The longest Joey and Dawson ever lasted was a month in Season 2. Not sure why you're questioning the longevity of Pacey and Joey, but seem to think Dawson and Joey have a chance of making it.

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The longest Joey and Dawson ever lasted was a month in Season 2. Not sure why you're questioning the longevity of Pacey and Joey, but seem to think Dawson and Joey have a chance of making it.

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Maybe because who someone is in their 30s is worlds away from who they were as teenagers, meaning their relationships as teenagers have nothing to do with now? The fact that they couldn't last as teenagers has no bearing on how they would be together as adults. It is completely irrelevant.

But it's relevant that Joey and Pacey would be arguing about her saying Dawson is her "soul mate" as a ***friend*** and human being?

I think they would have dated 4-5 years tops then broken up. And both ended up with people NOT from High School. Joey with some intellectual guy from NY, Pacey prob moving back to Capeside and finding some sweet girl there. And Dawson finding some girl in LA. Ta da reality.

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I think they would have dated 4-5 years tops then broken up. And both ended up with people NOT from High School. Joey with some intellectual guy from NY, Pacey prob moving back to Capeside and finding some sweet girl there. And Dawson finding some girl in LA. Ta da reality.

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Yeah, this is probably more realistic. Although I would like to think Pacey and Andie would have found their way back to each other. Those two are the only high school couple on this show I could actually realistically making it in the long haul. He didn't dump her when she started having mental issues, and she brought out the best in him. They just really made sense - up until she slept with that other guy in the mental institution. However, even that could be chalked up to the actions of a scared young girl who didn't know what she was doing.

It is not completely irrelevant. As Joey said in Season 2 when they broke up, the biggest issue with Joey and Dawson is that he sees things in black and white and she sees them in gray. Our perspective forms the core of our personality and while it can alter it never fully changes. The different ways that Joey and Dawson view the world will ALWAYS be an issue for them- whether they're 15 or 75.

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As Joey said in Season 2 when they broke up, the biggest issue with Joey and Dawson is that he sees things in black and white and she sees them in gray. Our perspective forms the core of our personality and while it can alter it never fully changes. The different ways that Joey and Dawson view the world will ALWAYS be an issue for them- whether they're 15 or 75.

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That's not necessarily a dealbreaker for their relationship though. In fact, on Grey's Anatomy, Derek's mother actually told him that the fact that he sees things in black and white and Meredith doesn't is a big reason why they should be together. And even on Dawson's Creek, Joey actually said that even though that was what was tearing them apart right now because Dawson was pushing her to turn her father in, it was actually one of the reasons she had fallen in love with him in the first place. And really, that's the sort of thing that might actually be more likely to work out in a relationship between adults rather than teenagers.

Really because you seem to be saying the exact opposite about her relationship with Pacey. There you are saying it was a high school romance so it would not work when they were adults.

Yes. I do. I think it was obvious Joey and Pacey were going to end up together from the second season and if they made a Dawson's Creek movie now Joey and Pacey would most likely be married with children and Audrey would be their babysitter while Dawson would be a famous director in Hollywood who was best friends with Stephen Spielberg.

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Some people still can't accept that Joey chose Pacey over Dawson. Dawson was always a symbol of Joey's past and childhood where as Pacey was about her future and the person who challenged her to grow up into the women she was. Yes I believe they would still be together because they were very good together and I think in the finale episode Joey made it clear she was finally ready to let go of her childhood and move forward in life and that meant Pacey.

I think they would still be together, yes.
I believe one of the many points of the show is thatyou can have a soulmate, and it not be the person that you "end up with" or marry, if you will. For example, Jack and Jen.

Even though Pacey had his hangups and insecurities in high school, the writers made it clear as the show went on, and especially in the final season, that he had moved past all of thatand regretted most of it. People CAN change and they eventually grow up and learn from their mistakes.

I think Pacey and Joey's relationship was one that most realistically portrayed a "real-life" relationship.
I personally would have loved to avoid all the teenage angst and drama myself, but hey, that's life and good TV.

No, I think they would have broken up by 2016.

a) They were only 25 in the finale. That's really, really young. Plenty can change.
b) They were a crappy dysfunctional couple that fought in literally every single episode they were a couple in season 4.
c) Joey is a book editor and that entails living in the capital of US book publishing, New York City. Pacey is just not a big-city kind of guy (as his disastrous stint in Boston showed).

Why are people acting like 25 is a teenager? 25 is certainly old enough to know what you want from a relationship. Many, many people are already married by 25.

25 isn't a teenager but it's hardly a mature age nowadays. People change SO much in their twenties that marrying someone at 25 is a pretty big gamble.

Seriously. I had two kids and had been married almost 5 years when I was 25. And considering I'm only early 30s now, it was not a "different generation" kind of thing, but here I am, still happily married (and now with three kids).

No, b/c honestly they were a crappy couple to begin with. It has nothing to do with her picking Pacey over Dawson, as other posters seem to think, she would never work with either Dawson or Pacey.

I think they would be. If the writers hadn't botched it, they would've believably been together through high school and college. The breakup came out of nowhere for everyone and made no sense. Even now, 15 years later, I watch that episode and it's so confusing because there is no lead-up to it. Pacey and Joey were the most realistic couple featured on the show.

Dawson was never - ever - the right fit. They were together for a month or two (at random) and then would break up and start the cycle all over again. They were absolutely toxic together and could never hold it together for longer than an episode before having a blowup. Even their first date, Joey left him at the theater - that's a pretty strong statement at the beginning of the relationship. Dawson and Joey were a nightmare to watch when the show was new and we had to wait week to week to see what new angst their relationship would be.

Pacey and Joey had a few issues here and there, but was much closer to real life. They were stable, they clearly loved each other, and they supported each other in everything. Honestly, they laid the foundation for this relationship to go the distance and then goofed.

Kevin Williamson even said when he was invited back to write the finale that he sat down and originally had Dawson and Joey together. But after catching up on the series, the choice was clear on who her true love was meant to be.

I agree. Dawson and Joey were great as friends but when they dated I really wanted a bazooka.

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Pacey and Joey had a few issues here and there, but was much closer to real life. They were stable, they clearly loved each other, and they supported each other in everything.

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I think "stable" is the last word I'd use to describe their relationship. It was a mess from the get-go. Watch season 4 again - they have a fight/argument EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.

They sucked at communication. Pacey was insecure. Joey was hung up on Dawson (who was happily dating someone else). Pacey was a trainwreck who barely finished high school. Joey was moving on.

Dawson and Joey was toxic, but so was Pacey and Joey.

Well, they both usually run away as soon as things get tough. I'd love to think that they are still together. I've met people broke up around the age of 18 and when they met again years later. They clicked right away and their new "grownup" relationship is much stronger and healthier.
I know their first relationship lasted for just about a year.

No way.

Joey was a snob and Pacey was blue collar. She would soon tire of him and look for some guy who attended a top level college like she did.

In the beginning, I was a huge Dawson and Joey fan. Then in season one when Pacey has a crush on Joey for an episode, I said I really like them together. They had a lot of chemistry etc. I was then torn between Dawson/Joey and Pacey/Joey. Couldn't decide for awhile. When I did, it was definitely Joey and Pacey. IM0, it became like what was I thinking when I said Joey and Dawson.

I honestly don't know if they would or not if this was real life but since this is fiction and it was obviously the writers intent to show that they ended up together I am going to say yes. However, even if they didn't that doesn't mean she would be with Dawson. The fact is every time Joey and Dawson were together she dumped him. The fact is both times that she had a choice between Dawson and Pacey she chose Pacey. Before that she chose Jack. Dawson is obviously not what she really wants, get over it.