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How Jon discovers he's a Targ

Has anyone else read the Reddit fan-theory on how Jon discovers his true parentage?

Very interesting - that Ned left Jon's future grave inscribed with the truth that Lyanna and Rhaegar are his parents.

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I cannot see how this could make sense in a world where grave inscriptions were never mentioned and the man who did the work would have learned the secret.

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Why do grave inscriptions have to be mentioned? Most graves has inscriptions on them, and I am quite certain that if you read the passage, which supposedly leaked from GRRM next book - the grave was buried until rubble, so not easily accessible. And Ned could have easily set this up for Jon to discover.

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The point is that the man who made the inscription, who wasn't Ned because this is a special skill, would have learned the secret.
And no, I don't think all graves had inscriptions and most likely not the names of a person's parents. We saw statues on them instead. Inventing inscriptions now just to resolve something would be convenience.

Another theory I saw sometime is that Lyanna's tomb would contain Rhaegar's harp.

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You are thinking way too much into this - Ned could have added to the inscription and I am sure he could have learned how to inscribe at least at a novice levelAnd the point is not that all graves has their parents' names on them, it's that this is the way Ned wanted Jon to find out.

Anyways, I find your theory less plausible because in that theory, Lyanna's tomb would literally have to be opened - and what would be the reason for that aside from Bran seeing it in a vision, which would already be pointless since he already knows.

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There must be a reason for Lyanna to have a tomb in the crypts. It appears she is the only woman there, the others are the Lords of Winterfell and Kings in the North.

It's the reason why Robert was made to ask Ned "did you have to burry her in a place like this?" in the first episode. Lyanna's tomb will have a role to play.

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Well, in the show at least, Ned replies to Robert "She was my sister, this is where she belongs".

What leads you to believe that only men would be buried there?

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Ned's reply is irrelevant. He also told Robert Wylla was Jon's mother.
The question, however, is a foreshadowing device.

I don't recall mention of other women in the crypts from the books. I read them only once, so others will have to confirm this.

As to going back to the tomb, we have those repeated dreams of Bran in S1, where the three-eyed raven keeps drawing him to the crypts and I think there is more emphasis on this in the books too. There is unfinished business in the crypts.

It might all get simplified and replaced in the show but I suspect Lyanna's tomb will play a role in the books.

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And on top of that, there still needs to be a reason for them to go into her tomb. So, what's the lead to that?

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There must be a reason for Lyanna to have a tomb in the crypts. It appears she is the only woman there, the others are the Lords of Winterfell and Kings in the North.

Is Lyanna the only woman in the crypts? I thought there have been Ladies of Winterfell before.

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The way I understand it, Stark women can have tombs in the Winterfell crypts, but Lyanna is the first to have a statue. I need to check on that.

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Has anyone else read the Reddit fan-theory on how Jon discovers his true parentage?

I will tell you how he finds out. Septa Lemore in ADWD is his mom. She can tell him personally.

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Not buying that at all. Jon will probably find out from Sam or Bran or some older character.

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Well I think it's safe to say that it's not going to be Reed who tells Job. Otherwise they would have worked him into the storyline by now.

Why in the hell would Sam be the one? He doesn't even know it yet, and how / why would you expect him to find out before Jon, and then go all the way back North to tell him?

Bran would be logical I guess, but it seems too obvious to me. I think Bran actually might not want Jon to know about his true heritage to protect him as his father did. But, if he is the one, how does he notify Jon? In a warg-like state?

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Why in the hell would Sam be the one?
They still need to make the dumb nerd a hero, somehow.

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Bran would be logical I guess


But does Bran actually know? He sees his father hold a baby that his aunt presumably just delivered, and hears Lyanna plead with Ned to protect him. But does he know it's really Jon? We've seen Bran make some mistakes in logic before is just seeing the baby with Lyanna and Ned enough for him to make the connection?

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By checking to see if he has white pubes?

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Ned left Jon's future grave inscribed with the truth

"Here lies Jon Snow. R.I.P.
FYI, he was not Ned Stark's bastard."

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