Freddy vs. Jason : Freddy has ONE kill in the entire movie..

As a huge Nightmare on Elm Street fan, it frustrates me that Freddy only has a single kill in the whole film, whereas Jason has dozens.

Probably the best scene is Mark's dream sequence where Freddy burns him alive (Mark being the only character who truly knows what's going on, everybody apart from him and the Sheriff have no idea.)

Yes, I know that towards the end it will be harder for the kids to dream when Jason is with them, but a few more deaths with Freddy terrorizing their nightmares wouldn't go amiss. Anyone else agree?

Yeah, would've loved for Freddy to have at least a couple more kills. But then again, Freddy wasn't really about having high body counts whereas Jason was usually hitting double digits.

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Yeah, would've loved for Freddy to have at least a couple more kills. But then again, Freddy wasn't really about having high body counts whereas Jason was usually hitting double digits.

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Exactly. In the original NOES Freddy had 3 kills, 4 if you include the bed scene with the mother at the end.

You can sort of count the stoner as a Freddy victim too.

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You can sort of count the stoner as a Freddy victim too.

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That was more of a combined kill, Jason finished him off.

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Yeah, would've loved for Freddy to have at least a couple more kills. But then again, Freddy wasn't really about having high body counts whereas Jason was usually hitting double digits.

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I agree with this. Jason was a silent killer, so there wasn't much else for him to do other than kill, kill, kill. Freddy had more personality and could actually talk, so had to carry the story more than Jason did.

Thanks for putting a spoiler in the thread name, a-hole

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Thanks for putting a spoiler in the thread name, a-hole

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This movie is 13 goddamn years old! FirstDon't look at message boards if you haven't seen the movie. Secondif you haven't seen it by now, you probably won't.

Just saying,

Rex

When movie hell is full, re-makes shall walk the earth.

^ Exactly LOL. How dare you spoil a death in a movie that's 13 years old!!!

;)

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Thanks for putting a spoiler in the thread name, a-hole

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It's a movie discussion board for a 13-year old movie. Are you really surprised that the plot could be spoiled by posting on the forum? I mean, even if the movie was brand new, don't read the forum if you don't want to risk seeing spoilers.

13 years after the film was made, I think it's safe to assume that most people reading this forum have seen the movie, and those that haven't don't care about spoilers.

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It's a movie discussion board for a 13-year old movie. Are you really surprised that the plot could be spoiled by posting on the forum? I mean, even if the movie was brand new, don't read the forum if you don't want to risk seeing spoilers.

13 years after the film was made, I think it's safe to assume that most people reading this forum have seen the movie, and those that haven't don't care about spoilers.

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Still, you don't put SPOILERS in the THREAD TITLE. As simple as that, it's a common sense. I doesn't matter how old the film is. What's the time limit then, how old films can be spoiled? 1 year? 5? 10? 13?

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It's a movie discussion board for a 13-year old movie. Are you really surprised that the plot could be spoiled by posting on the forum? I mean, even if the movie was brand new, don't read the forum if you don't want to risk seeing spoilers.

13 years after the film was made, I think it's safe to assume that most people reading this forum have seen the movie, and those that haven't don't care about spoilers.

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But isn't it also common sense, that if you don't want to find out spoilers from a movie you shouldn't post on an internet forum about that movie?

I was one of the people rooting for Jason lol

Technically you could say Freddy has 3 but one is done in a flashback and one is only mentioned. Mark's brother and Lori's mother.

1, 2 Freddy's coming for you. 3, 4 better lock your door.

I totally agree, the highlight of all the NMoES movies were all ways Freddys over the top, inventive and tragicomedic kills. This being 50% a NMoES-movie really disapointed me a lot, it could at least have used two more dream-kills in the classic Freddy style, especially since the movie didn't really have too much of Freedy versueing Jason either

That was the whole point of the film.

No ones afraid of Freddy, Jason kills to get them scared, except Jason doesn't stop (and nicks one of Freddy's kills). Freddy throws a tantrum, targets getting rid of Jason, and fails miserably in the process.

I wouldn't say miserably. He had Jason dead to rights, so to speak, until those meddling kids got involved.



When we're thinking about our own brain, would that be a mental paradox??

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I wouldn't say miserably. He had Jason dead to rights, so to speak, until those meddling kids got involved.

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False. The kids were the ones who were keeping Jason unconscious in the first place. If they hadn't kept injecting him with tranquilizers, he would have woken up a lot sooner, i.e., before Freddy would have even gotten to the point of stumbling upon the "fear of water" thing, and then what?

In other words, you have it backwards. The only reason Freddy had Jason in any sort of compromised position at all was because of "those meddling kids". He used one of those meddling kids as a vessel to render Jason unconscious to begin with, and then they took it upon themselves to keep him unconscious. It was only the fact that they ran out of the tranquilizer drug that made them stop injecting him when they did.

By the way, the idea that Jason dreams is asinine, as is the idea that drugs could knock him out, or even affect him at all. He's "undead" / supernaturally animated; normal biological rules don't apply. The idea of him being afraid of water is asinine too.

I don't dance, tell jokes or wear my pants too tight, but I do know about a thousand songs.

Not me. I wasn't impressed with Jason's over-kills in this movie, so I don't think Freddy's kills would have made a difference. If this were the 80's or 90's, teens fearing the Boogeyman might work. But today's teens are more empowered, so it's hard to see where Freddy can get to them. Sure, teens are troubled, threatened, hurt these days, but I don't see the Freddy Franchise using that AT ALL.

And what fresh Hell is this?, Malory from Archer(Dorothy Parker)