Who Killed Nancy? : So.. who do you think did it?
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I still think that Sid probably did it, but not as a suicide pact. I think the suicide pact idea is the romantic alternative, perhaps something that they had talked about doing when the money and fame ran out. But I don't think that's what happened that night, because Nancy, being well known for being the more dominant and pushy of the two, would have made sure that Sid went first. Once Sid was dead, she probably wouldn't have hesitated in killing herself.
It seems more probable to me that they were both high on drugs, they had a fight on the bed (the bed was bloody) and Sid without thinking, maybe he had the knife in his hand at that moment, stabbed her instead of punching her as he was well known to do. Both being junkies, surrounded by drugs, it was unlikely that they'd want to call the authorities, be it an ambulance or whatever, because they would have got busted.
So Nancy probably went to the bathroom with the intention of patching her self up, was too strung out on drugs to do it, sat on the floor and bled to death The neighbor, in the room next door said that she had heard a woman moaning for a long time, while it was later reported in the press in the statements made by the other neighbors, that Sid was roaming the corridor knocking on doors - probably an incoherent attempt to seek some type of help. He didn't phone down to the concierge until much later and could only say something like "Someone is sick. Need help." Probably by then he knew that she was close to dying or already dead.
I think that if she'd been stabbed and robbed by a dealer she would have:-
(a) probably yelled for help and put up a good fight because it was in her character to do so. She wasn't a passive woman.
(b) fallen to the ground in a more random position. The photos show her sitting on the floor between the basin and the toilet, just like someone who's resting.
Sid would have been far more vocal and active about actually getting help.
The autopsy could not show whether the one stab wound was inflicted or self-inflection. I think if Sid had killed her intentionally he would have stabbed her more than once, which is why I think he did it accidentally. The pathologist did say that it was a difficult autopsy because Nancy's body was so deteriorated through drug use and covered with old scars and bruises (probably from Sid's past beatings - and his from hers). I also think that when he said "I killed her" (he knew that he had) and his denial, "I didn't kill her" was his way of saying that he hadn't meant to, it was accidental.
'Lady Sarah, whose emotions are as frozen as Kidman's forehead'Australia Review, Times Online
It seems more probable to me that they were both high on drugs, they had a fight on the bed (the bed was bloody) and Sid without thinking, maybe he had the knife in his hand at that moment, stabbed her instead of punching her as he was well known to do. Both being junkies, surrounded by drugs, it was unlikely that they'd want to call the authorities, be it an ambulance or whatever, because they would have got busted.
So Nancy probably went to the bathroom with the intention of patching her self up, was too strung out on drugs to do it, sat on the floor and bled to death The neighbor, in the room next door said that she had heard a woman moaning for a long time, while it was later reported in the press in the statements made by the other neighbors, that Sid was roaming the corridor knocking on doors - probably an incoherent attempt to seek some type of help. He didn't phone down to the concierge until much later and could only say something like "Someone is sick. Need help." Probably by then he knew that she was close to dying or already dead.
I think that if she'd been stabbed and robbed by a dealer she would have:-
(a) probably yelled for help and put up a good fight because it was in her character to do so. She wasn't a passive woman.
(b) fallen to the ground in a more random position. The photos show her sitting on the floor between the basin and the toilet, just like someone who's resting.
Sid would have been far more vocal and active about actually getting help.
The autopsy could not show whether the one stab wound was inflicted or self-inflection. I think if Sid had killed her intentionally he would have stabbed her more than once, which is why I think he did it accidentally. The pathologist did say that it was a difficult autopsy because Nancy's body was so deteriorated through drug use and covered with old scars and bruises (probably from Sid's past beatings - and his from hers). I also think that when he said "I killed her" (he knew that he had) and his denial, "I didn't kill her" was his way of saying that he hadn't meant to, it was accidental.
'Lady Sarah, whose emotions are as frozen as Kidman's forehead'Australia Review, Times Online
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Question is, who killed Sid? Himself, his mother, someone else? It's said that it would be unlikely for him to have been able to shoot up the amount of heroin he died from by himself.
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Didn't his mother confess to it before she died? I think that I read that somewhere. She admitted that she'd given him the injection.
'Lady Sarah, whose emotions are as frozen as Kidman's forehead'Australia Review, Times Online
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Re: So.. who do you think did it?
But what about the six names blacked out on the police report? Fingerprints found at the scene matching the names that detectives never bothered questioning? And where did the wad of cash go? Nancy was seen irresponsibly dropping large bills in the hotel lobby. Someone knew she had the cash, someone knew Sid would make a great "murderer". Who wiped out the knife clean of prints and blood? Certainly not a messed up, incoherent junkie. This "michael" guy is an interesting missing link to this story. He was probably a junkie, too- just not high enough that day and smart enough to run upstairs and immediately point the finger to Sid. Also think Sid's mom had a hand in his death. She knew he was forced clean from his arrest; she, being a drug user herself, would know his tolerance is not as high at the moment. A mother who brings candy and syringes for her adult son is not beyond being capable of being at least partially responsible for his death. Maybe he really did want to die.
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I agree with all the points above. I would say the stabbing was caused by an argument, perhaps over missing money. Perhaps a third party (Micheal?) has stolen the money while both are heavily drugged with barbiturates and this causes an argument that leads to violence and the stabbing. Neither Nancy or Sid realize the seriousness of the wound, Sid passes back out and Nancy tries to clean up the wound in the bathroom where she passes away. This explains why Sid cleans the knife and cleans Nancy up before getting help, perhaps he was hoping she would just recover after she had her methadone? . Its worth noting that barbiturates can effect the mood of some people drastically and bring violence out of nowhere in some people, I have seen this with my own eyes.
It's alternately possible that this Micheal guy has turned up at the room and seen the blood around and assumed or seen that Sid has killed Nancy (even if Sid did not realize it). He has then taken advantage of Sid's state on the pills to steal the money from the drawer.
barbiturates cause amnesia and memory black holes so Sid might well be telling the truth when he says he remembers nothing. This doesn't mean he didn't do it though. In fact his confession hints to although him not remembering that he knows he could well have done it. Not on purpose though, its clearly manslaughter by way of diminished responsibility. A real eye opener for me was hearing a guy recount Sid hanging a cat until it was dead in front of him for no reason, an incredibly cruel act. For me anyone capable of this is certainly capable of stabbing another person, once, in anger.
It's alternately possible that this Micheal guy has turned up at the room and seen the blood around and assumed or seen that Sid has killed Nancy (even if Sid did not realize it). He has then taken advantage of Sid's state on the pills to steal the money from the drawer.
barbiturates cause amnesia and memory black holes so Sid might well be telling the truth when he says he remembers nothing. This doesn't mean he didn't do it though. In fact his confession hints to although him not remembering that he knows he could well have done it. Not on purpose though, its clearly manslaughter by way of diminished responsibility. A real eye opener for me was hearing a guy recount Sid hanging a cat until it was dead in front of him for no reason, an incredibly cruel act. For me anyone capable of this is certainly capable of stabbing another person, once, in anger.
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(a) probably yelled for help and put up a good fight because it was in her character to do so. She wasn't a passive woman.
Not if she was high on heroin she would've been barely coherent. Nodding off. Sh might not have even felt pain from the wound until she had already sent Sid off to get Methadone.Do they give the toxicology of Nancy?
(b) fallen to the ground in a more random position. The photos show her sitting on the floor between the basin and the toilet, just like someone who's resting.
They said she was stabbed on the bed and worked her way to the bathroom she was cleaning the blood off of the wound so was Sid looks to me she is in the position that she was on the toilet then fell sideways off moved herself back up to the wall to prop herself up she may have been moaning for Sid seeing if he was back yet.
Sid would have been far more vocal and active about actually getting help.
Again heroin. I don't think he had any idea how bad her wound was and that it would prove to be fatal.
That's just MHO I've been researching since the late 80s.
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I thought it sucked. The music they used was terrible, the animation was annoying and most of the people they interviewed came across as unbelievable. Complete waste of time. I only watched to the ending to see what they had to say about who actually did it. Now I couldn't really care less.
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With all the people going in and out, and so many of them being junkies, she was almost certainly offed by one of them. Where did all the money vanish to?
So.. who do you think did it?
My guess is that it was the Michael dude. Dodgy crack addict who pops down the room and is suddenly awash with cash the following day. Then promptly disappears. For ever. Hmm.
Poor Nancy. She had severe mental problems and a personality disorder, however she behaved in life she didn't deserve what happened to her.