John Wick: Chapter 2 : better than the first??

would you say that this movie is overall better or worse than the first

the raiting on IMDB suggest better, but what is your view

I've been flip-flopping on this since I saw it. Still can't decide lol. I'm thinking the first might be just a little better, but only barely. They were both fantastic. I feel like 2 gets some extra points for what I thought was a perfect ending.

as good as the first for sure.

Imo, it is better than the first in almost every aspect. I thought the first was alright, decent action film and I thought this was awesome. Thats just me though

They could erase end credits for Chapter 1 and simply play Chapter 2 - to me it's one movie divided by long period of waiting. Both great movies in my book.

I liked the first one better.

The pacing felt off in the sequel. There were some solid action scenes, but too much padding in between.

I liked 2 better. The first had some dead spots, especially after Ioseph is killed. 2 didn't really have that. 2 had a gradual build-up, but as soon Gianna dies, the tension never really comes down again. And I preferred Common and Ruby Rose as the heavies compared to Adrienne Palicki in the first.

ruby rose was stupid.

john wick tossed that dumb bitch like a rag doll. she was one of the dumbest things about the sequel.

oooo she speaks sign language! that makes her so scary!

That's why I liked it It is simply not realistic to have a woman in hand to hand combat with a trained assassin like Wick. She is lucky she lasted as long as she did.

Adrienne Palicki was a lot more solid than dumb ruby rose. Ruby Rose was a gimmick in this one.

The sign language WAS a gimmick. However it was a good one.

It was stupid.

How did it help her in the end?

She was a waste of time and not threatening at all.

At least she got a final confrontation with Wick, instead of just being executed under a bridge. And I much preferred Rose's silence to that terrible dialogue Palecki had to work with.

Yes. It takes everything great about the first and amps it up to 11.

I disagree.

The first movie had better action.

The first action scene was better in the first movie. The club scene was better in the first movie. The climax action scene was WAY better than the sequel.

There were many parallels. The club scene in one was better, but it was much more important as a localized movie. This movie was obviously much bigger and had many more new set pieces.

I liked the darker original better. Both are great, but the second felt a little too happy go lucky and light.

Better.

Better, simply because they took the mythos they built with the first one, fleshed it out more, upped the ante waaaayyyyy higher and made a incredible sequel.
If you want a reasonably intelligent balls-to-the-wall shoot 'em up actioner, you can't do better than this.

I felt his fighting skills were a bit too weird at times. I know Reeves commitment to training for the scenes, but I guess I shouldn't have seen the behind-the-scene footage. I could just see some of the other actors killing time and pretending to be hurt, while Keanu was taking his time to, what at times looked like struggling to, help his victims "take their coats off".

(Edit: A funny thing: after watching it in the afternoon, The Transporter 3 was on tv that night which had the usual fighting scenes in it and I couldn't figure out which one I preferred more. John Wick's more, and at times too, realistic approach, or Jason Statham's obvious choreographed fighting scenes.)

The fight scene with Common was genius and their sneaky gun-fight in the metro station was wicked too! I've seen something similar before and I don't know where.

I was expecting way too much from Ruby Rose and maybe therefore it worked out finel for me. Because I was not expecting the obvious; which was that she was some kind of super-Russian MMA fighter like in Fast 6 & Furious 7 (which worked well for me too, btw).

All in all, I left the cinema more satisfied that I did after seeing John Wick 1.



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Both movies have highly enjoyable fightscenes. Where Equilibrium gave us a stupid dance, John Wick actually makes the notion of Gun-Kata believable.

I do think the focus of 1 was better, even in the fightscenes. In 2, there were some moments where John clearly had the time for a headshot, but opts for a legshot and then wrestles the baddy on the floor. To me this suggested that the makers wanted more flair in the scenes.

But where the first one is leagues ahead of the sequal is the world building. The first movie never explained all that much, but everything became clear after a while. It felt like an existing world where the characters where familiar.
The second installment has a number of exhibition scenes (most jarringly the explenation of the marker. Its a BLOOD oath, with your BLOOD and some more BLOOD and now you are sworn to me by BLOOD). Plus a number of out of character decisions (why didn't Winston have John eliminated, like Padilecki in the first movie?).

I walked out of the theatre satisfied, but the first movie is so much better.

The first one is leaps and bounds better.

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The first one is leaps and bounds better.

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You're in the minority.

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The first one is leaps and bounds better.

You're in the minority.

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Who cares? I'm fine with that. It's my opinion.

No doubt. I am truly shocked that the second is getting better reviews. I felt like I was watching Smoking Aces 2 (which I liked, btw) or something rather than John Wick 2. The whole calling in contracts to the call center made it look like there was enough assassins to populate an entire city which was just stupid. And they used old outdated technology.. why exactly? Oh, we're putting out a contract, let's just text each of the seemingly thousands of assassins we have on file one by one on a computer from 1983 instead of just all at once. LOL! There was an element of realism in the first one that was completely lost in the second. Hey John, I realize that it's your thing to double tap fools but when you are using a huge ass shotgun and have to load each shell by hand, blasting a giant hole in someone chest from four feet away is quite sufficient!

I liked the first one a lot better. The first one seemed more raw and the action tighter. There was more action in the second one but it did not seem as tense as the first. The scene in John's house and in the club were very tense affairs while the scenes like in the mirror house seemed just seemed to stylized. They decided to do another club shootout in Chapter 2 and it paled in comparison to Chapter one. Overall Chapter 2 was very enjoyable but not better than Chapter One for me.


I also liked the characters more in the first one.

Cry Havoc and Let Loose The Stalking of Trolls.

Both solid films but I enjoyed the first a tad more. The first one is faster paced with better action scenes.

John Wick 8.5/10
John Wick Chapter 2 8/10

I think the first one edges it out a little, maybe, killing all those people other a puppy is perfectly reasonable after all. The second one is more enjoyable, perhaps. I don't know, I need to see JW2 again.

Loved the scene where he only has one gun and seven bullets, so he just takes the gun from each person he kills. That was cool and funny.

F **K no! This movie was a complete piece of IQ lowering garbage, a vomit fest of stupidity and idiocy!

The first movie is a masterpiece of actionthis is like the "Taken" sequels unnecessary and unwanted

"Today is the tomorrow I was so worried about yesterday"Anthony Hopkins

Both awesome but I still like the first a little more

This is not as good as the first. I did enjoy this movie, but it felt like there were a lot of drawn out action scenes. The first was also more stylish and the plot, although simplistic, was better and more convincing. I can't imagine John Wick shooting that guy in the Continental, like was it really worth it? It seemed like an exceptionally stupid thing to do.