John Wick: Chapter 2 : why was Ms Perkins killed by hotel owner but not John?

why was Ms Perkins killed by hotel owner but not John?

did she get killed at the end for breaking the hotel code of not killing there? John sure did (at point blank range) but he's sparred. why the double standard?

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She just killed that guy because she wanted to. John did as a he knew what will happen to the area with a whole war if he didn't. As like the hotel code or the bowery king. Still he has a kill order on him.

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John was a great companion to Winston so Winston gave him a 1 hour head start.

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Exactly. If anyone would have done what John did, he or she would have been killed on the spot. Winston let him leave the hotel and later gave him a 1 hour head start.

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Terrible writing contrived at every turn to create conflict. That's all I can say.

The guy who wrote this clearly sat in a Starbucks racking his head until he came up with ways to progress the plot. It's an awful sequel.

I was most bothered by the Rome catacomb assassination scene. Clearly, the job to kill the guy's sister wasn't hard. Why not hire some chump instead of John Wick if he's such a loose end? You know the guy's reputation. It doesn't make sense.

Also, in this movie, he takes shots repeatedly, whereas in the last film, he never did. None of these enforcer/hit men types have the sense to shoot him in the head though, or conveniently don't have guns or wise up and take up a position, forcing Wick to give up.

In all these years in Hollywood, no one has come up with a way to film a great action scene without armies of magic men?

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If you had actually seen the movie you would have known that he was shot multiple times and that he used his armored jacket as a shield to cover his head. Keep pretending that you've seen the movie though if it makes you feel like a big boy.

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I never saw him covering his head with his jacket, and to be honest, I don't care about rewatching to prove you were wrong. I saw him take shots to his body repeatedly.

Go to hell with your lame shill tactics. I love this one, "you didn't see the movie." You guys are freaking clowns. Try hiring someone that has more than a GED, please.

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Thanks for proving I was right. You haven't seen the movie and you're nothing more than a pathetic troll crying for attention. Aren't mommy and daddy giving you enough attention? Did they lock you in the basement? Poor little troll.

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How does this prove I so-called didn't watch the movie? Once again, multiple people dressed alike are in a gun battle, wrestling with each other, and you expect me to pick up on everything like I made the damn movie?

Why are you getting so angry about my opinions? There's the ignore button, don't like what I have to say, USE IT, CUPCAKE.

That's right, you losers can't do that, because your boss won't let you.

Anyone notice none of these idiots who like to whine to me ever use the "Ignore User" feature? That speaks volumes as to the true identity of them. If you hate my posts so much, just block me!

I think that alone proves you're on the clock for the marketing department.

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Anyone notice none of these idiots who like to whine to me ever use the "Ignore User" feature? That speaks volumes as to the true identity of them.
Yeah, it shows they're not spineless cowards like you.

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What a pathetic excuse!! You couldn't pick up on everything? He did it multiple times throughout the movie,you moron! It was too dark? What kind of pathetic idiot are you? All these lame excuses. Just admit you didn't watch the movie and that you're nothing more than a pathetic troll!!!

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What will you do when no one can hear you troll? 8 days and countingtwitter here you come.


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He did use his coat/jacket to shield his head. You just weren't paying attention.

And what does him taking shots to the body have to do with anything? Hitting the body is a LOT easier than a head shot. Have you ever even fired a gun or been to a range? People think shooting accurately is so easy, let alone in a pressure situation against a guy that's supposed to be basically the best assassin ever.

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Let's see, several shots of this movie are in dark catacombs with multiple people dressed alike shooting each other, wrestling, among other things. Sorry if I couldn't catch everything in the multiple viewings that you watched.

It's either that or you're just going off notes your employer gave you to argue against posters on here. Either way, no one cares.

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In the first movie, it shows Wick is able to take in severe wounds. He even survived severe bleeding for a long time, while fainting. It is no surprise he can take so many wounds. He got hit by a car like three or five times and is able to still fight. His body is probably like a bullet.

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You do know the writer is just making this up as he goes, right?

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You do know the writer is just making this up as he goes, right?


That's usually how fiction writing works

"Hello, hello, what's all this shouting? We'll have no trouble here!"

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The thing is, John Wick was moving faster than all of them. It's no surprise that they can't shoot him in the head. If you remember the first sequence of Wick dodging every bullet from Ms. Perkins. It shows that he's extremely good at doing so.

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Bricks, are you high? you must have been when watching the film, John covered his head multiple times and took plenty of body shots The suit saved his life multiple times.

I mean I am not going to sit here and say that what he did was what saved his life, numerous times he should have been down for the count but this is Hollywood and this is a John Wick film, but I think the director did an excellent job of covering his bases in the shootout scenes.

In the end, I enjoyed it, not as much as Part 1, but I liked it so I gave it a 7, I gave JW1 an 8

I say bring on part 3.

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You realize the job was only "easy" because it was John Wick right?.that woman oy killed herself and made it easy because she knew John's reputation plus the fact that he was working on a marker hitmeaning this already highly proficient assassin had even more reason to be proficient. She knew she was dead and *made* it easy to avoid what she already knew he could do and at least have *some* control in her fate.

It wasnt an easy task.it was another "impossible" task that ended up being "easy" for John.

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The way it was set up, anyone could have walked in there and done it, at least someone halfway competent.

Once again, why use the guy who can take you and your guys down like taking out the trash if he will be a loose end?

It's TERRIBLE writing.

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Because John's the only one he make do it because of the marker. No one else would tryJohn had to. I assumed thats why he even cane to john and used the marker, cause no one else would do it. And thats why santino blew his house up when he said no.

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It wasnt just about ease of killing hershe held a high position in the underworldand killing her meant repercussions because of her position.

I dont think Santino necessarily wanted john to do it, but john was his last chance and the only one he could make do it. And he only did it because john came back out of retirement so he took his chance. Knowing john couldnt honorably turn it down.

And this situation actually works out fir santino, because john killing the sister/high positioned person, put him at risk to get killed for thatbut also both of them since john didnt get killed by santinos henchmen and remained a loose end.which is why the hit got called.

It wasnt the best but it wasnt as bad as the haters are making it out.

It is what it is

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It's TERRIBLE writing.



I'm not making a claim that this is fantastic writing. However, you should acknowledge that you were wrong in your assertion of Santino leaving John as a loose end.

This film has it's tongue firmly planted in it's cheek. The writing is more than adequate for a film of this nature, and was better written than you gave it credit for.

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Pretty simple, John was well liked. The hit is still put out on him, but he was given a bit of a head start as was clearly explained at the end

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Professional courtesy

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^^^ yes!

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Wait, she started it didn't she? She was fulfilling a contract on the hotel premises. He was defending himself. I think that was the difference.

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John wasn't defending himself when he killed that Italian guy. he was eating his duck fat steak just sitting there and I just shot him

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1. winston likes john wick and gave him one hour heads start.
2. the movies are not called perkins, they are called john wick and they want to film a third, maybe more

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Some of you need to take this film for what it is and not overthink it.

Why didn't Winston kill Wick?

- As others said, they clearly have an established bond, Winston's hand was forced, he literally says that the one hour is all he could buy him.

Also, top address the Rome assassination being "easy"

- Perhaps it was "easy" due to all the prep work he did. He had an expert with maps and blue prints find a path in, had fantasy body armour custom-tailored for him, and had a small arsenal set-up on top of having the element of surprise.

It's not like he made it out of that unscathed anyway.

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Also, top address the Rome assassination being "easy"

- Perhaps it was "easy" due to all the prep work he did. He had an expert with maps and blue prints find a path in, had fantasy body armour custom-tailored for him, and had a small arsenal set-up on top of having the element of surprise.

It's not like he made it out of that unscathed anyway.


Why the hell would D'antonio hire a guy who would be a loose end that's hard to kill? It's moronic.

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He didn't?

He had a bunch of guys waiting to kill John. John killed them, made it back to the continental, then got the phone call with the explanation of having to avenge his sister's murder for his actions.

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WHY WOULD YOU HIRE SOMEONE WHO IS BASICALLY UNKILLABLE IF HE'S GOING TO BE A LOOSE END THAT YOU NEED TO KILL AS WELL?

NOT HARD.

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WHY WOULD YOU HIRE SOMEONE WHO IS BASICALLY UNKILLABLE IF HE'S GOING TO BE A LOOSE END THAT YOU NEED TO KILL AS WELL?

NOT HARD.


Because he thought he Wick was the only person who could do the job, he states as much in their first encounter.

Then, he attempts to kill two birds with one stone, and fails.

You're really terrible at analysis of film, especially considering the context of the tongue-in-cheek action film that we're discussing.

This is the second time in this thread that you have proven that you weren't paying all that close attention to the film.

You're trying to cite the film for bad writing, yet you're citing things that are explained in the film.


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He wanted a seat on the counsel and he couldn't get his hands dirty so he had Wick do it in hopes that he could "avenge" his sister.

To answer the OP's question. He took out a contract on John, he just gave him a head start since he liked him so much.

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That scene was hilarious tho!!! "Your membership to the continental has been revoked".


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why was Ms Perkins killed by hotel owner but not John? By pdx503 21 hours ago (Sat Feb 11 2017 09:26:41)IMDb member since June 2011
did she get killed at the end for breaking the hotel code of not killing there? John sure did (at point blank range) but he's sparred. why the double standard?

She broke the rules going after John on Continental grounds & killed the other resident.

The Italian is shown as an ambitious double dealer who has designs on the city of NY. And once he took that, who can say he wouldn't take the entire organization as his own? Switch it from a council to a mafia single guy at the top?

As for Winston, the Italian threatened him specifically. Had Wick not done what he did, The Italian had said he would remove Winston from the Continental so John saved Winston & the Beggar King at the very least.

People at large are unaware the hit on the sister was from the brother. Winston knew, but Wick told the sister so those seeking to kill Wick would not know nor really care with the amount of money involved.

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Hey you shouldn't post movie story spoilersthats a bad thing


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Quite simply: respect.

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Perkins didn't get it right away, as she helped kill William Dafoe. Hell she answered a call that lead to her end, just like John came with the Manager to meet his fate. Hell if she didn't kill Henry she may have just been excomicated for attempting to kill Wick on neutral turf.
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