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3 random Bollywood movies just appeared out of nowhere in the top 250.

How does that happen?

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Well, they already had the votes and the rating, and I know at least one of them had been on the top 250 a year or two ago. I'm more curious about why they hadn't been on it (or the top 1000 for that matter) in the intervening time.

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I don't know how often the Top 250 are updated, but if it happened in the last few days, I'd guess it has something to do with IMDb featuring Indian movies on the main page in connection with the Diwali festival a short while ago. Possibly some of the featured films got a lot of attention and ratings that way? Just a guess.

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As always, the top250 is not understandable. Bollywood movies enter top250 for one reason. Many Indian people have found the way to imdb.com and started voting, usually a 10 for the indian movies. And Hey, that is fine, but if a movie can enter the top250 where 95% of the voters is from the same nation as the movie, is it then really a top250 ?

I would say no. The problem is, that on imdb.com it is not necessary to state on your profile were in the world you are from. Lets take no. 1, Shawshank : 1.7 mio voted. 750k from Non US, 275k from US. The last 700k have not stated "Country of Residence".

Here is my idea. First, a movie on top250 should be rated high in average all around the globe to enter top250. If imdb.com makes it obligate to state in your profile, were in the world you are from, fx US, Europe, India and an "Other", then you cover all users on the site. Then, to enter top250, at least 40.000 users must have voted, and 3 of the 4 areas of the world at least 10.000 votes per area, then it takes at least 10.000 from US, 10.000 from Europe and/or 10.000 from India for any kind of movie to enter, if the score is high enough. Then we could get rid of nationally voted movies, which may only be huge in one country.

The Imdb can add or keep other restrictions that is today kind of secret to the users, which is also fine.

I foresee, if nothing will be changed, in the future, more than half of Top250 will be Indian movies, where approx. 90-95% of every movie, is voted by Indian people. It will "kill" the last living parts of the Top250.

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I agree with everything you say aside from increasing voter tally to 40.000. 25.000 is fine as it is. I'm not American and I gave Shawshank a 10. Is it really true you only have to state your country of residence if you are from USA?

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*beep* now yet another one popped in. We already have a dedicated top 100 Indian movie list...

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Many Indian people have found the way to imdb.com and started voting, usually a 10 for the indian movies.


If that was true, you wouldn't even be able to count how many Indian movies land inside the top 250. There are already over 100K Indians in here.

Regarding the location thing, I think IMDb does follow that. What made me say this is because there are many other Indian movies in Indian Top 250 that stand above the ones (Indian movies) that are already in the World top 250 and are pretty much unknown to people from other countries. I might be wrong but that's the only criteria I could point out right now.

Another reason why you see them now is because of the introduction of Indian Top 250 itself. Many of us having realized that many great movies are nowhere to be seen on that list started voting for them.

These movies may not be appealing to most of you'll but these are far better than the cliched crap we usually see and hence such a high rating. Some of these, like 3 idiots has garnered fans all over the world, though. I have seen this on 9gag comments section when they used a shot from the movie as a meme. Just wanted to say not all of them are crap.

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here are many other Indian movies in Indian Top 250 that stand above the ones (Indian movies) that are already in the World top 250

The reason for this is because a lot of those votes for the higly rated movies don't count towards any 250 rank because they count votes from accounts that have voted on numerous movies in higher regard than the ones which haven't. Many of the latter ones are 'spam' or alt accounts of other users.


Some of these, like 3 idiots has garnered fans all over the world, though.

That movie is barely above 7 among US voters, and I doubt it's then much higher among the rest of the western world. It's only because of Indian votes it's in the top 250. I've even heard other from India admit you wont think higly of it if you are unfamiliar with Indian traditions and pop culture.

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The reason for this is because a lot of those votes for the higly rated movies don't count towards any 250 rank because they count votes from accounts that have voted on numerous movies in higher regard than the ones which haven't. Many of the latter ones are 'spam' or alt accounts of other users.


I do know that IMDb considers ratings in that way. I'm pointing out a list which IMDb has already calculated according to its algorithm. The 250th one itself has been calculated as 6.8 while what we see is 8.8.


That movie is barely above 7 among US voters, and I doubt it's then much higher among the rest of the western world. It's only because of Indian votes it's in the top 250. I've even heard other from India admit you wont think higly of it if you are unfamiliar with Indian traditions and pop culture.


I can't deny that. However, I don't think 7.3 is bad considering it's comic and culture is mostly based on one community. And of course, you watch a foreign movie with much higher expectations.

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if a movie can enter the top 250 where 95% of the voters is from the same nation as the movie, is it then really a top 250?

Has that not always been the case with American movies? They are wildly over-represented in the Top 250 at the expense of better non-American movies, because this is an American website and (at least until recently) the great majority of participants were American.

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Well if I look at my own country (The Netherlands), American movies are also very popular here and if you ask your average Dutch person about their favorite movies, most will solely mention American titles. There are a lot of Dutch movies made each year, but most are for a specific target audience or only shown in small art-house cinemas. I

I do wonder how much the Indian movies are watched by people from other countries?

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No, most of the american movies in top250 have been voted by more non-americans, than actual americans.

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Who even watches those films outside India? Are they even available for the rest of the world?

IMO this flood of Bollywood crap is ruining the list.

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Totally agree. 5 more has appeared since I made this thread. WTF is happening. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DEDICATED LIST BECAUSE OF THIS!

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Looks like the India Top 250 is gone.

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If it is, then I must be a magician http://www.imdb.com/chart/top-indian-movies

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It was gone for a few days.

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And 2 more has now appeared! We're up in 10 movies now since I made that post!

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And yet another one in the last 3 hours has appeared. This is a scandal!

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As I said earlier in this threat, soon more than half will be indian movies on Top250. How much is that list worth then, if the voters of those indian films is 90-95% indians ?!!

IMDB need to wake up.

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but anyway rating is good and below average.go Indian movies go.

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The list was never about anything except popularity and that was skewed towards new films.

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Never seen it before. It's honestly no good compromise considering there are many non english movies which have more than earned their place on the top 250. In fact, anyone that isn't Indian has. Despite of my personal opinion on for example Pans Labyrinth, I do accept that it is on thd top 250 due to it having an approval rating outside of Spain and Mexico. These Indian movies do NOT outside of their native country.

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Just wait till China starts voting on their own films ;-)

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They don't see their own films more superior than other countries'. https://movie.douban.com/top250 Check out their top 250 list there are only two Chinese films among the top 20. Shawshank comes first, followed by Leon, Forrest Gump, Life is Beautiful, Schindler's List, Titanic, Inception,etc

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Ok, now I wanna see Indian voters' favorite movies. How does 3 Idiots compare with Star Wars, Godfather, Shawshank Redemption, etc according to them?...

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Well.....guess what? 3 Idiots is very well received by the Chinese audience with a whooping 9.1 rating and ranks at #12 in their top 250 list. Shawshank rates 9.6 (#1) on the list while The Godfather rates 9.1 (#17) . Star Wars has a rating of 8.3. However, 3 Idiots seem like the only Indian movie popular in China.


Here are some others:
Schindler's List 9.4
12 Angry Men 9.3
Inception 9.2
The Dark Knight 9.0
Fight Club 9.0
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 9.0
Pulp Fiction 8.7
Goodfellas 8.3

Note that their rating scale is 1 to 5 stars, which may explain the exaggerated ratings or the other way round.

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I'm not talking about whether they don't see their own films as superior, I'm talking about getting a million or two fanboys voting any Chinese film with all 10s you just like the fantards voted The Black Knight up ;-)

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Who's bollywood?

Don't give up the fight for truly independent cinema!

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You're kidding right? Bollywood is basically 'Hollywood India' you've seriously never heard of that?

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No, I wasn't aware there was a movie scene in India.

Don't give up the fight for truly independent cinema!

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At one point I had seen all the top 250 movies. I just went to check on what may be added and now there are 13 Indian movies I had never heard of. The top 250 is Total rubbish now. It was not great to begin with, but at least you could get a good understanding of what common moviegoers enjoyed and the movies were easily accessible.

Bollywood movies are a completely isolated demographic of films that have no baring or influence on filmmakers in all other demographics.


If you look at the voting demographics of these Indian movies, it's a complete farce.

IMDB needs to do something about this. I've been on this site for over 15 years, I've already dealt with all the hipsters, fanboys, bashers, trolls, and pseudo-intellectuals, and this is the worse.


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