The Bank Job : Bambas? (Spoiler Alert)

Ive just watched this film and i dont know if i missed something but how did they know Bambas was in the gang? They killed him in his car by suffocating him but cant remember how they worked out how he was in the gang.

Dave will have named him under torture, but Bambas' killers were never actually brought to light, so we don't know who killed him or what their motives might have been.

Dave? (the guy who had his ankle melted off) eventually gave up everyone.

He who laughs last doesn't get the joke.

The film is working from the facts that are known about the case and (according to the scriptwriters) insider information from a man who either knew one of the robbers or was one of them.

It seems to me that Bambas and Singers murders could have been an attempt to cover tracks of whoever planned the robbery.

Either it was the other robbers taking out two of their own (unlikely but possible) or it might have been done by those who were pulling the strings of the whole job (mi5/mi6 according to the film) or it could have been done as the film suggests (dave is captured and tortured and the gangsters holding him kill bamabas and Singer becuase they are expendable etc).

Personally i think it was most likely done by whoever was pulling the strings to plan the whole job (perhaps mi5 or 6).

I think that the Martine character is a fictional one (A pretty woman and a love interest included just for the film) and the real links between the organisers and the robbers was Singer and bambas. once the spooks had killed them they were free to let the police lock up the other four members of the gang safe in the knowledge that those four didnt know enough to get mi5/6 too heavily involved (but they made sure the whole thing was secret anyway etc).

A D notice is a good way of keeping a secret, but to be absolutely certain Death is best keeper of secrets you can find.

Just a theory.

My take is that if "inside information" was used to write the script, then whoever supplied that information knew exactly who killed Singer and Bambas. (This of course assumes that Singer and Bambas actually existed, as with any of these "Based on a True Story" movies the basis in reality could be nothing more than the fact that this bank robbery actually took place. Everything else could be complete fabrication.)

If Dave spilled his beans during torture, he would have told Vogel that all the "non-valuables" like documents and photos would have still been in the van, and not with Singer/Bambas So while it's possible Vogel just went out for revenge, I would think it's doubtful. Why would he risk drawing more attention to himself? Why wouldn't he just kidnap them as well, maybe Singer/Bambas would be more valuable to the rest of the gang from a ransom perspective?

The MI5/MI6 angle doesn't make any sense either as we are lead to believe that the rest of the gang is allowed to walk away with new identities and all the loot once they turn over the princess porn pictures. Why would MI5 kill the two gang members who were ignorant of the big picture but let the people with all the dirty little secrets walk free?

I think someone in the gang did the murders and seeing it's presumably a gang member helping write the script he/she just fudged some details to deflect any suspicions. The script goes out of it's way to make sure the audience knows that those two are ignorant of the true motives behind the crime. Bambas and Singer take their shares of the loot and leave immediately before the remainder of the gang gets clued in on the photos of the princess. It's all too convenient. If this little setup didn't happen, then the other gang members would be suspects as well Kill two of the gang and you can get their loot after all

According to the film, Singer purchased the store that they dug under to get into the vault. Once the bank vault was discovered, I'm sure that they were able to find out where it leads and eventually who owned the building. I can't remember if he owned the building under his real name or a fake name, but either way, I'm sure that's how he was linked.

But still doesn't answer the question as to why they were killed and not brought in for either bargaining chip or what, maybe just revenge to get rid of evidence and information.

It seems there are many theories as to who killed Guy and Bambas. I think it was the crooked police and/or the porn lord. They are the ones who tortured Eddie so they had the identities of everyone in the gang.