Arrival : Question for those who voted this 7 or higher

Question for those who voted this 7 or higher

I would like you to tell me (us) what was it that you liked in this movie.

For me it is just PURE GARBAGE, I have seen bad movies, terrible ones, but this one is in a class of its own.

Even "The Room" is better than this!!!

Before you ask me to go watch Transformers, let me tell you some of the movies I like:

Goodfellas / Midnight Express / The Shawshank Redemption / The Lives of Others / El Secreto de Sus Ojos, etc etc, basically any Scorsese or Eastwood movie

What is so special about this crap?

I will tell you what it can not be:

- the story
- the idea
- the script
- the development
- any characters
- the resolution

So please share with us.

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It's a science fiction made properly. It's built around a few fresh scientific concepts that intervowen into the story and makes it transcend beyond the standard alien invasion movie.

Amy Adams character arc is beautiful. It was what Nolan was trying to achieve in Interstella but failed.

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a few fresh scientific concepts


oh really, care to tell us what they are?


makes it transcend beyond the standard alien invasion movie.


no, it does not, it only just plain S U C K S

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oh really, care to tell us what they are?


Linguistic relativity, circular time

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You haven't seen to many scifi movies ...

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I'm sure did.

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Interstallar s one hell of a flick, this one aint bad either.

my vote history:
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur13767631/ratings

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I'm so glad IMDb is shutting these boards down.

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I'm an admirer of Amy Adams and like her as an actor. However, whilst I wouldn't go along with everything you say I did think this film wasn't for everyone. It's slow mostly and needs an open mind about what the film was trying to convey. I especially liked the time travel sequence when she was talking to the Chinese General and was getting what to say directly from the source. Yes, there were plot holes but this was definitely a solid 6 or 7 for my money. Probably a 7 thinking about it.

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needs an open mind about what the film was trying to convey


and what exactly was it this movie was "trying to convey"?

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That sequence with the general was stupid as hell. He calls him in the past/present but she doesn't remember anything about the conversation 18months after the conversation?

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You need to not think of time as a linear object like we do in the real world. Her time, like the sentences of Abbot and Costello, had no beginning or end. So while the General was experiencing this moment as his past, Louise was experiencing it in her present.

Another example of this (tho it could be argued otherwise) is when she does not know the "scientific term" for the win-win scenario when her daughter asked her. Then we go to the meeting where Ian says they are at a zero-sum game, and she then tells her daughter the term.

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She would have experienced the event already for the first time 18 months ago. no matter how you consider time to be her brain after 18 months should have had the memory imprint of the phone call.

Plus, that's not the idea of the movie, the idea is that you experience/see every moment at the same ... time.

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I think what's so special about it is what the movie is really about, and that is language. The film offers a vision of what humanity could be if humans learned to respect one another and not be ready to jump to violence when disagreements inevitably arise.

With the means of communication we have today, violence is primitive and driven by fear (see: the soldiers who planted the bomb). Louise understands this and learns to overcome her fear and look at the situation in front with her understanding and compassion, and what happens? She not only transcends anything humanity has ever been able to do, but influences everyone around her to do the same and humanity gets that much closer to literal world peace.

You see because when you have advanced means of communication, you are no longer in survival mode. The problem is, humanity likely won't see such an intervention and likely will never learn.

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This movie just isn't for everybody. People who are more philosophical are probably the ones giving this higher rank.

I gave it 9. I can explain why in detail but considering this board is about to be shut down I don't feel like investing that much time in this. (and it will require a lot of time to explain).




~Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes~

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I take you are the kind of person who typically rates things as either 'pure garbage' ... Or 'best ever!!!'

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I like the science of the movie:
1-In physics, the equations about space and matters work with time going forward and backward as if time is the invention of man. People use to think that time was circular (like the alien language) and men thought about their own body aging as a tool degrading over time. It's only been around 100 year that we invented stories about time travel.

2-This in turn present a problem about free will. If your actions are only reaction to what you have lived then none of your choices are truly yours. If you don't have free will and already know what will happen to your life the only thing making you humain is your inner life, what you feel and how you respond to outside stimulus. (Or you can argue that our emotions is the sources of our free-will.)

3- The ships are designed with the form of a comet, wise directorial choice, and we can deduct that the ship can control his mass on a cellular level to affect gravity and travel through space. The aliens seams to come from a oceanic world (europa?) they are non symmetrical and have not a clear face to convey emotion.(Alien don't have to convey emotion like us. smiling, frowning, etc.) They also have their own linear language and a non linear writing.

4-On social science even if the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis (learning a new language change the way we think) is pretty much debunked, it makes a great anchor for the rest of the story. The linguist side of the story is spot on.
Paranoia is contagious, and openness can ease tense situation. (Desescalation)

This is what i found im sure there is more to find in a second viewing. The movie don't teach us "science" but use science to make a story and you have to know some of it prior to seeing it.

This is why i like Arrival.
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