Star Wars: The Force Awakens : If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

This is deeper than the pit the Emperor was thrown in.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

I stopped at the 3rd bullet point since in the Prequals it is known that people can talk to and understand droids just fine.

There is a big difference between a Tuskan Raider and some fat slow dimwitted scavenger who was trying to capture a droid with a net and was too lazy to get off of his mount.

Luke was raised with a loving family as a farmer, Rey had no family and had to survive to live. Think Lord of the Flies.

Geez, the American education system continues to fail me with the output they churn every year. Analytical thought just escapes average people.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIxYGisMN84.

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DO NOT HAVE THE TIME TO READ OVER 300 POSTS BUT IF NOT ALREADY MENTIONED..........................


At one point as the 1977 film was taking shape LUKE WAS GONNA BE A GIRL!!!!!!!!!


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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

It wouldn't have changed anything if Luke was Lucile, as long as the actor could pull it off. Would have made the kiss with Leia even stranger

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

This is a more scathing indictment of a film than the Plinkett reviews from Red Letter Media. Well done.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

*ugh* please don't mention those phony sellouts who lost credibility endorsing this giant corporate, uninspired turd.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

Someone adopting the position that one character is the same as another character written badly and pointing out all the discrepancies that they think proves this disingenous position does not constitute a review.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

Well good thing I didn't call it a review then.

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The OP is spot on. How anyone could or would want to dispute the fact that Rey is presented as a nearly perfect (and therefore uninteresting) protagonist is beyond my comprehension. Luke shows humanity which makes him relatable. In comparison Rey feels like a caricature.

For all its commercial glory the OT has heart. The prequels had ambition but mediocre execution in so many ways. Disney-Star Wars to me feels boiled down to a money-making enterpise - compentently made but ultimately soulless.

To all genuine TFA-lovers: I'm happy for you and hope you will enjoy the creations of the Disney-Star Wars machinery. I'll be in the corner with my Despecialized Editions if you want to come and visit.

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is beyond my comprehension


Just like someone's failure to go in through an out door perplexes them, if they can't be bothered to establish what the door is actually for.

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Good one.


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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

Should be required reading with an "I agree to these terms" box to be checked before one is allowed to post.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

What a complete waste of time. You're wroking on the assumption that Rey is supposed to be Luke but written poorly which makes her a mary sue.

Rey is not Luke and Luke is not Rey. Different characters who have different stories.

You might as well replace Luke with Inspector Gadget and point out where they went wrong with Inspector Gadget.



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Rey is a flat, uninspired, fanfiction Mary Sue version of Luke in ANH come to life. Luke's set up as the film's central character was very organic. He learns his family legacy & he's thrust into events that set forth his destiny in a fairy natural way.

Every thing comes across as rushed & forced with Rey. All we know about her is that she is some mystery chick with a mysterious past who has being scraping by, barely able to feed herself properly on some backwater planet since she was a toddler yet somehow grew up fresh faced, speaking with a fancy Queen's English accent & somehow improbably amassed a laundry list of other incredible skills that seem to conflict with the meager existence she's been living.

I'm not sure if the the idiot$ who made this film plan to backtrack and somehow "nerf herd" Rey's all encompassing perfection back down to earth in future films to make her seem like less of a cardboard cut out and more of a relatable character or if they plan the ride the MaRey $ue gravy train all the way to the bank. Neither would surprise me but the damage is already done and there's really no way to "correct" the problems with this cardboard protagonist.

Although totally ruined & and a colossal missed opportunity Finn however does have potential to be "redeemed" in future films from the weak, useless, cowardly, bumbling idiot he was introduced as to being something more...(force sensitive after all?). That's a discussion for another topic however.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

Yeah sure. When did Luke see someone pull anything through the air or taught that he could do such a thing or even contemplate moving something with his mind before he did it out of desperation on Hoth?

Never. So Rey's discovery of her powers is consistent with Luke's. For obvious reasons they didn't take a movie and a bit to get round to showing that. There is zero basis for assuming that they should.

So you're fücked for starters. Easy.

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Yeah sure. When did Luke see someone pull anything through the air or taught that he could do such a thing or even contemplate moving something with his mind before he did it out of desperation on Hoth?

Never. So Rey's discovery of her powers is consistent with Luke's. For obvious reasons they didn't take a movie and a bit to get round to showing that. There is zero basis for assuming that they should.

So you're fücked for starters. Easy.


Umm sorry but just No. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the OT (seems not too much) but Luke had the nature of the force and his natural affinity for it explained to him in great detail by Obi Wan. However brief Obi Wan explained & tutored Luke in the ways of the force in ANH yet he still came nowhere near close to pulling abilities out of his ass like Rey did without any training or tutoring in the force whatsoever, performing feats with the force without having so much as been told about them, let alone trained. (unsubstantiated fan theories about forgotten training when she was 4 is not an argument)

Obi Wan helped Luke every step of the way and even after death helped Luke in using the force to concentrate the shot that destroyed the death star. It's also safe to assume that Luke was not simply sitting on his ass and rather continued to hone his force abilities the best he could on his own (and perhaps with Obi Wan communing with him through the force for continued guidance). Even with that he still had a difficult time concentrating enough to pulling a lightsaber to himself when he more than likely was familiar with this ability by this point.

MaRey Sue on the other hand not only swiftly draws a lightsaber to her hand with the force without knowing the ability exists (around the third time this has happened at this point) she also manages to overpower a highly trained and experienced force user attempting the same feat. In her first time wielding a lightsaber she then proceeds to beat down and nearly kill this (sith) apprentice with years of training were it not for a contrived deus ex machina. (But he had a boo boo so that justifies all of this.) No it does not and is so far out of the spectrum of what Luke was capable of in ANH that there is no credible argument that could be made comparing the two regarding "MARY Sue"ness. I'm afraid MaRey is in a fanfiction league of her own.


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Wrong. Watch the film again. You're just wrong.

Not seen anyone do the things she does? Wrong.

Total and complete failure.

Watch a film at least once before talking about it.



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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

Congratulations! You've earned your first wall of unsubstantiated "wrongs"!

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

I don't know. I think my failure may have been convincingly illustrated in that barrage of "wrongs" directed my way.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

Now I can use this for all those damn people who call Luke a Gary Stu as a rebuttal.

"Not all change is progress, as not all movement is forward."

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Bump for great justice.

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This needs another bump lol!!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LS4gOc4_A.

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Re: If Luke was Rey (a.k.a. The ANH "Mary Sue" Rewrite)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LS4gOc4_A.

"it's not the audience's job to bring in their imagination, otherwise I would have gone into "The Force Awakens" and just imagined a good movie"

That line had me rolling.

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Glad you enjoyed it .

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This is pure gold

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