Deadpool : A Bit Overrated To Be Honest (Backed by Reasons)

A Bit Overrated To Be Honest (Backed by Reasons)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining just to complain here but these are some legit dislikes I have with this movie.

While I love the concept of Deadpool this movie just kind of wasn't for me. I'm not saying I hate Deadpool as I thoroughly loved his 2014 game but I don't exactly think this movie deserves all of its praise.

I don't outright hate the movie, there are things I loved such as the performances of everyone. Ryan Reynolds knocks it out of the park as Deadpool and T.J. Miller as Weasel is great to watch. There's also a lot of unique sequences and I love how the movie takes shots at modern superhero films.

However I have 2 major problems with this movie. The first being its status as a comedy. The movie just didn't really make me laugh, maybe three times. I think this is because many of the references and jokes in this movie are either really, really, really obscure or outdated by this point.

My second big problem is that nothing really happens in this film. I saw a bunch of posts on Facebook around the time this movie came out that said 'The reason there's no spoilers is because little kids aren't allowed to see the movie.' And I think the reason there weren't any spoilers about the movie is because nothing really groundbreaking or interesting happens! There's barely any action in this film, just 2 rather small sequences: highway and junkyard battle at the end. Both sequences which were replayed over and over again in the trailers.

Sure you can argue that the movie being so small makes it more unique and special, fine. But you've got to admit that nothing happens at all. The movie progresses rather slowly when the entire plot could've been resolved in 25 minutes. Seriously, this movie is 75% flashback and 25% modern day.

Anyways those are my thoughts on Deadpool. Any responses? Let's have an organized discussion.

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I just finished the movie recently, and I found the film very funny and by far the best superhero movie to come out of FOX.

The humor is such a huge part of what makes this movie work, so if the humor fails you in some way I can see why it can feel overrated. I guess its age but the comedy really worked for me.

It did have a lot of flashbacks to fill in the origin but they did it in such a way that it stayed entertaining, at least to me. Origin stories have become so boring in superhero films, but the presentation here with his running commentary worked in ways that others fall flat.

I really enjoyed the film, I am curious if they can maintain its quality in a sequel.

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maybe you dont have any humor or maybe youre too thick to understand the jokes.


Or maybe he just didn't find it funny b/c he doesn't have the exact same sense of humor that you have b/c he's lived a completely different life than you and had different life experiences. "No, he just doopid b/c he didn't like it right!" 🐼



my assesment, 1. you have no humor and 2. you suck just like the fox execs who keep fkin up other marvel properties.


My assessment of you. 1. You are an only child. 2. You live in a basement. 3. You are single and can't for the life of you figure out why.

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you have a really narrow minded view on how comic book movies should be... "this movie has nothing going on and there are only two action scenes"

so what your definition of a good comic book movie is just a bunch of crappy action man you'd love BvS

that's what makes DeadPool so riveting... the style and the way the story is being told
talk about action

i love the deadpool montage !

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My second big problem is that nothing really happens in this film. I saw a bunch of posts on Facebook around the time this movie came out that said 'The reason there's no spoilers is because little kids aren't allowed to see the movie.' And I think the reason there weren't any spoilers about the movie is because nothing really groundbreaking or interesting happens! There's barely any action in this film, just 2 rather small sequences: highway and junkyard battle at the end. Both sequences which were replayed over and over again in the trailers.
While I thought the movie was great, I agree that not a whole lot happens in it. The time jumps gave the film more edge and made the story seem more interesting to follow, but had it been told in a linear fashion, some of the minor points the plot doesn't follow up on would have been more apparent. For example, I was slightly bothered that the flashbacks didn't show how Deadpool first came into contact with the X-Men when they were trying to recruit him, since that was a point that emerged over and over again. I was also hoping for more closure regarding the friend Wade made in the mutants lab. One line from Deadpool could have added some significance to his death. It was an enjoyable movie overall but I don't blame you for bringing this aspect up.

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OP - I'd hardly call the highway and junkyard battles 'small'. And did you sleep through the action montage where DP is chasing down Ajax's goons?

Also, DP and Ajax's fight in the burning Weapon-X lab.


We all get a little lost sometimes.

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I was also hoping for more closure regarding the friend Wade made in the mutants lab.


For this, you need to actually read the comics, unfortunately. They go into more detail there. I figure they will address the X-Men connection more in the sequel in flashback. Especially since they're bringing Cable into the story.

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Thats a great point you made. On the death of his lab friend. Honestly, the film couldve been longer to fill the gaps. Rhe lab scenes couldve beenbbtanched out more

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Depends on what you were hoping for. I think it succeeded spectacularly on what it set out to do - make a snarky, unpretentious action movie on a relatively limited budget that works on a meta level. If you were hoping for Deep Thought, or truly ground breaking cinema, not so much.

And some of the humor I found was in the blending of actor/character/universe - like when he is talking about fondling genitalia to get the film made and says they were Wolverine's, and he had a nice set 'down under', a sequence I found funny for a few reasons, none of which involved anyone's testicles.

It acknowledges that within the X-men Universe, Wolverine is powerful and popular. On a meta level, it acknowledges that Hugh Jackman is Australian. And the statement as a whole is utter nonsense, since neither Wolverine in universe nor Hugh Jackman in the real world has any say in whether Deadpool gets a movie. It isn't laugh out loud funny, but if that isn't your cup of tea, I don't think you'd like the film.
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Nicely put.

It's hot... but not as hot as the night Johnny Viti got married...

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining just to complain here but these are some legit dislikes I have with this movie.

While I love the concept of Deadpool this movie just kind of wasn't for me. (...)


I laughed my #$%^* arse off! Every time I've seen it! (Maybe seven or eight times so far).

The opening credits were a masterpiece; and it just got better from there. I loved it, from the humour to the love scenes.

The action scenes were some of my favourites, because the parkour, wire work, and cgi (and humour) were fantastic. They kept my interest. They way they were done, it wasn't 90% blurred and incoherent the way so many so-called action scenes are. They played great music for the scenes, that really complemented what was going on.

The humour of the character, his intereactions with Dopinder and Blind Al and even Vanessa I found hilarious (I also enjoyed the byplay with Colossus and Negasonic Teenage Warhead). The trademark fourth-wall and constant references amazed and entertained me.

I saw it in the theatre. Then, the next week I saw it in the theatre again. Then, when it was available on digital, I bought it in that form. Then, when it was out on blu-ray, I bought that. Because I loved it, wanted to support it, and wanted to be able to watch it in digital, or with commentaries, or with an audience.

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Humor is a highly subjective concept. What you may find funny, others may not and the reverse is true. Personally, I've found a lot of the scenes and the lines to be very funny. The humor may be a bit dark and it requires to understand the universe a bit, but I don't think it fails here.

The story, I don't see why it is important that it was 25% present day and 75% flash-backs. It is just a way to frame it. I've found the story great in its simplicity. No complicated plots. No saving the world. I'm not going to write it here not to spoil it but I'm glad it was free of cliches, especially in a super-hero movie.

I hope they'll make a sequel. It is true, the game had some really funny parts but I don't regret investing two hours of my time and $10 for the ticket to see it. It is a solid 8 / 10 for me.

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I laughed a lot and the whole cinema with me :)

The jokes about T-REX, whole Francis teasing, sex montage, all the 4th wall breaking (hero jump nearly killed me), interaction with X-Men, jokes about X-Men, the fact that he spent a lot of time getting ready and then forgot his bag in taxi, conversation with taxi driver about his love problems...

Uh... boy, that was some nice comedy :D

Probably you dozed off and did not see the movie (or was too afraid to watch you silly pussy :-) if you thing nothing happened.

Wade was diagnosed with cancer, dealt with some emotions, underwent torture, was forever changed, chased a bad guy, had some setbacks, killed a bad guy, got together with love of his life again.

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Thank you everyone for your kind opinions.. I am glad to see we were able to discuss this without insults.

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I agree that it was not particularly special. I found the storyline to be pretty generic when compared to other Marvel movies. Most of the fourth-wall-breaks felt forced and inorganic. It was too silly to take seriously, yet not funny enough to be a parody. Mel Brooks or the "----- Movie" people could have done it better.

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Just what other marvel movies are you referring to?

Storylines in most of them are crap. They force on audience this gravity that the whole world will perish if there won't be <insert random hero name> and possibly his sidekicks, but the tone, the forced comedy, setup, dialogues, characters decisions, absolutely stupid character motivation, etc. killed that suspense.

I mean... look at the last CA. The army guys is berating avengers and mentions situation like New York, WHICH THEY WERE GOING TO NUKE FFS! Or the fact that SW blowed a bit of building and possibly injured/killed few people, when if fact the explosion was meant to go off in the middle of crowded marketplace. If they cannot come with reasonable motivation for the KEY storyline element, then the movie sucks big time.

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Srsly, these forums are getting weirder by the day. Pretty much all of the Marvel (and other comic book movies) have sh-tty stories. Some villain wants to take over the world / destroy a big city with McGuffin x. Usually I tend to forget all details of these movies a day later or so.

This one actually had a nice, straight, personal story. The hero wants revenge on the bad guy who made him that way, torutred him and abducted his girl. I was totally happy with that setup.

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I hope I didn't offend you by the "pussy" line :)

Just my attempt to say something Deadpool might say.

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This is one of the many reasons IMDB has NO credibility. Whether the fanboys want to admit it or not, this is a 3-4 star movie rating tops. Sure it might be fun and zany, but it's by no means good cinema. It's fan porn.

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Why is it wrong for people to rate movies solely according to entertainment level, and not technical quality?






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You mean plants make movies too? O.o

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someone who gave Deadpool a 1/10, and 2012 a 7/10.... wowzers.... guess we can all take anything this person says and pretty much assume the opposite.

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because deadpool had the worst effects... whatever... laughable

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made you laugh 2-3 times... ?????????????????


I laughed 23 times at the opening credits. Funniest movie I've seen in years... whether you label it as a comedy or not, it's funnier than 99% of the comedies released since office space.

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It's appealing for those who didn't grow up with 80s and 90s action movies that treated the audience like actual adults, with swearing, bad taste, nudity, and graphic violence. People that grew up with the more sanitized 00s and the switch to more PG-13 will get a relatively bigger kick from being exposed to a film of this nature.

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I agree, there tends to be a huge smarmy following with this movie since it's the "smart" and "culturally correct" choice since most people who watch superhero movies are usually insecure about watching superhero movies, there's always this tendency to create caveats for why they're watching it or preemptively dismissing the film's value simply because it's a Marvel or DC film.

Deadpool seems to have come out based on hype and I have to say I was definitely part of the excited bunch who was looking forward to this film, quite enjoyed all the trailers, but then when I watched it, I too was met with an underwhelming joykill, most of the one-liners are pretty stale, or incredibly lame, and sometimes even nonsensical, like the Kitty-Litter line or the british bad guy's line about "Having to grow back you" and suddenly Deadpool breaks the 4th wall to confirm with us "That was a good one". I hope they were being facetious cause that's one of the more unclever lines in the film and definitely not the time to be patting-themselves on the back.

But like you mentioned with the actions scenes, most of the gags and clever lines that work were already in the trailer, and what's left is pretty mediocre.

And I agree about the lack of action scenes, and to make thing worse the two action sequences are short as all hell, when I think Deadpool I think an extended chaotic dance of gunplay, similar to John Woo, but we only get about halfway there, with nearly 60 million to spend, their budget was way more intensive than films with lesser budgets that had even better action sequences, from John Wick to Shoot Em Up, you have films that utilized their budgets and delivered more with less.

And don't get me started on the "meta" aspect of the film, there's only like 4 or 5 truly meta moments, like the X-men budget line, Green Lantern line, Time-line line. People seem to think him looking at the camera is somehow a supplement for the meta-aspect of the film, when talking to the camera is such a common trope, that it's no more meta than a film with a voice-over narration.

And as another poster said, there's really nothing groundbreaking or new about the presentation of this story, if you take out all the one-liners and the pomp, and just look at the film for what it is bare-bones, it's very mediocre, from the lame jumping back and forth in the timeline (Very insecure writing) to the overly dramatic moments between his gf and the moments he's in the facility being turned into Deadpool, there's just something that takes itself too seriously compared to the rest of the film's middle-finger to other superhero films taking themselves too seriously.

As a fan of these new-age attempts at humorous, less-serious, more-sincere Marvel films, I still think Guardians Of The Galaxy was much better, most of the lines and humor in that was quite surgical, James Gunn's direction was so much more masterful, I kinda wish to see if had directed Deadpool, his style is so much more vivid and synchronized with what Deadpool is about, and the way he can direct a comedic scene, to an action sequence, to an actual emotional moment that's sincere but still doesn't overtly inject itself with a sense of hackneyed importance. But Guardian's Of The Galaxy still managed to work it's magic within the realm of "safe" Marvel template, plus it being very successful with mainstream and younger audiences makes it less "edgy" than Deadpool which has an R-rating that doesn't even warrant it's own R-rating.

I'm done ranting, but I too found Deadpool extremely lackluster and the ensuing overrated shower of praise this film gets for being some sort of meta-savior-holier-than-thou of comic films in general. This film took a giant *beep* on the kitty litter that is my viewing pleasure.

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Those who don't like the movie, needing to analyse why others love the movie. It's always entertaining.

...there's only like 4 or 5 truly meta moments, like the X-men budget line, Green Lantern line, Time-line line.
Only 4-5 references to superhero conventions and genre? Not the 'how did I get my own movie?' or the 'superhero landing (hard on the knees)...' I stand corrected.

...there's really nothing groundbreaking or new about the presentation of this story, if you take out all the one-liners and the pomp, and just look at the film for what it is bare-bones
Sounds like the Monty Python sketch. Alright, apart from the one-liners, and the pomp...

I still think Guardians Of The Galaxy was much better, most of the lines and humor in that was quite surgical...
I thought both movies were terrific. Surgical? I'm not sure about that, but certainly entertaining.

This film took a giant *beep* on the kitty litter that is my viewing pleasure.
A movie reference to show you're unimpressed with the movie?

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I disagree with you pjmcgill142

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That's fine. For me, those who don't like a movie and their desire to deride others who love a movie is always entertaining.

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You're right, it was absolutely crazy for me to go onto an IMDB page of a movie and add to a thread that's called "A Bit Overrated" with an opinion that's of a similar persuasion. But people insulting OP, condescendingly acting like this film was too nuanced or they simply didn't "get it" is who I was "deriding". Does criticizing the movie mean I'm implying other people aren't allowed to like it? It's the people who think this film is exalted and above sound-criticism who my cynicism was aimed at.

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Now, that was entertaining.

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I need cash money, send me some you binch

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Ha! I think not.

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It's a mouth porn. There are many movies with a lot of dialogue but this movie is a ryan reynolds mouth porn. Just like Liar Liar was Jim Carey's. Wordy movies are not for everyone. Especially from Ryan Reynolds' mouth.

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very well put. I agree

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You know whats funny, is that there is another Ryan Reynolds movie with WAY less going on, called Buried.

Instead of combatting your issues with the film, I'll just tell you why I liked it.

I like that the stakes of the film were personal. Not just small, but personal. If you can think of any comic movie, they are mainly about protecting a body of people or saving the world (The Avengers, X-Men Apocalypse). It wasn't even about revenge primarily (The Crow, Punisher). It was about Deadpool trying to become 'hot' again.

If you pay attention to the movie, during the action scenes, there occurs several times, a reaction that doesn't fit. Deadpool will kick Ajax and he will fly a slightly different direction or much further than he should have. It never explains why Wade can do multiple backflips or hurricane kicks. He will get shot and his body doesn't react naturally along with the shockwave and such. Its a meta movie. Its self aware and creates unnatural consequences for actions that didn't even make sense to begin with, in order to tell a unique story. This gives the directors and writers full control of the characters.

Think of the film as a teen boy playing with action figures and making up a story as he goes along. The movie reminded me in a few ways of my favorite film of all time, Fight Club.


As far as your quelm about the lack of action scenes, I can assure you that the sequal will not have that problem. The studio didn't provide jack *beep* for money. I mean, Colossus was the only recognizable character of the bunch by an average fan. They had to make do eith what they had, and in my opinion they did really well.

I hope you give the movie a second watch someday with my commentary in mind. Maybe you will learn to like it :)

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I could not agree with you more. I laughed also three times :D Well this was obviously targeted to teenagers and I'm too old for these jokes or heard them before. The plot was VERY simple.

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Tihis movi was awesome cause it had cursing and boobs

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Yes, it was over-rated, just as almost every super-hero movie of the last 10 years has been. Soon this will be off the top #250 where it does not belong, and where it will never return. It was just mindlessly dumb entertainment, done in a slightly different way. Thats it. That is not a masterpiece, and is not even a particularly good movie. I enjoyed the entertainment value, but thats about it. 7/10

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It had boobs tho

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I confess to not having many real belly laughs but I was in a state of almost constant "delighted chuckling" throughout the movie. Didn't see it in the theater but got the Blu-Ray/DVD set the day it came out. After watching it on Blu-Ray I immediately decided to verify the DVD was working properly so watched it again. Then I was compelled to verify the digital download worked properly so I watched it a third time. Since then I have watched it maybe twice a week and am still not tired of it. This and the first AVENGERS are my two favorite comic book based movies.

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Watched this for the first time at the weekend and actually enjoyed it more than I thought.

Did not mind the flashbacks, but I agree that it felt like such a short movie.... was almost like they had 25 minutes of plot that was SERIOUSLY padded out to just get it over the hour!

Just when I was starting to really get into it, it was was the main battle/fight that was starting, and then we had the end.

Also agree with what you say about spoiler.... there was something like 1000 different trailers for this movie and seemed like they crammed everything into those, as there was very little from the movie that I did not see already from the trailers.

Fair enough, Deadpool is not really one of the established Marvel heroes around just now, so probably was a bit of a risk for the studio to let Rynolds loose with this character.... its clearly worked so the budget for the next movie will improve, so hopefully the story will..... all the way through this felt like ones of the Scary Movie/Not Another Hero Movie style movie (with all the references and breaking the 4th wall.... granted this is Deadpools style, but to go forward is going to take some serious work on a good script)

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I agree with almost everything you said. If anyone wants a funny super hero movie. I would recommend Guardians of the Galaxy. If anyone wanted a R-Rated action movie I would suggest Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

I felt like Deadpool was trying to be a R rated GOTG and just fell completely flat on its face. I liked the flashback story telling at times, however seeing the same highway scene in trailers repeatedly hurt the viewing in the movie.

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'A BIT overrated'???

I swore I wouldn't watch a superhero movie this year as they seemed to be increasingly lazy cash grabs. Then I broke my promise to myself and watched Batman vs Superman. I really should have learned my lesson from that one but no; I decided to check out Deadpool. OK, so it wasn't an atrocity, and I did chuckle a few times, but really, if this is an 8.1 star rated movie I despair.

Now I have to promise myself I won't watch another superhero movie for at least two years to cleanse myself of those two.

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I don't know if you like super hero movies in general but Guardians of the Galaxy is hilarious. Its everything Deadpool wants to be.

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Well...

Producers decided to work hard on making money from a "cool" movie nammed DeadPool.

And fools are happy to give them their money thinking "it's so cool".


At the end of the day, DeadPool is just one more stupid plotless superhero movie.
Although it's different from the other superhero movies because there is more sex and violence in it.

Is it cool ?
Maybe. But people pretending too much to be cool are not cool anymore. They are just j*rks and a$$holes.

The opening credits are saying that the writers "are the real heroes".


If a hero is someone who is smart enough to make fools give them their money, ok.
If a hero writer is someone who wrote something good, this is by far the best joke of the movie.

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