Classic TV: The 50s : The Lone Ranger - Moore vs Hart

The Lone Ranger - Moore vs Hart


As people might know, Clayton Moore sat out the 3rd season of the show due to a contract dispute and John Hart was brought to play the role. All I can ask is what were the producers thinking. No offense to Hart's acting ability. But putting him in the role is like seeing Ja Ja Binks cast as Spiderman.

So am I alone? Was hart comparable, or am I being to harsh. It just seems to me Moore lived and breathed the part, and his quiet spoken voice gave a dynamic to the Lone Ranger no other has since.

Re: The Lone Ranger - Moore vs Hart

I agree with you and so, seemingly, did the producers. IÂ’m not sure if it were one season or two for John Hart, but he was The Ranger in over 50 stories, but eventually the studio caved and gave Moore the money he wanted to come back.

I would also like to say that despite the “Kemo Sabe” thing and the “Don’t go to town, Tonto” comedy routine, Jay Silverheels was not only absolutely indispensable, but also a positive Native American image at a time when even the thought of an intelligent American Indian was, well, it wasn’t thought of.

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Yes the character of Tonto was written very well. He was sort of the conduit to the Rangers code of ethics. And was always the one to ask the question, then follow up with questions and statements that showed he understood what was at stake in that particular episode.

And Indian have some strong medicine. The number times Tonto saved mortally wounded people with nothing more than the contents of his leather pouch was astounding.

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Verily I say unto thee...Hart was fine as Hawkeye in "Hawkeye and the Last of the Mohicans" and I don't find him to be inferior as the Lone Ranger either and who to be honest nowadays would notice the difference between him and Moore unless they were told?

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Anybody who remembers Clayton Moore's voice would know the difference.

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Clayton Moore IS the Lone Ranger,just like Jay Silverheels is To to and Sean Connery Is Bond. Accept no others.

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That sort of worries me about the new film. From the trailers I have seen Tonto looks amazing, the Lone Ranger though feels a bit uncouth and lacking in the style of Clayton. But I am sure I will enjoy it for what it is

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Modern film makers don’t know from “The Lone Ranger.” This applies especially to the director and star of the “Pirates of the Caribbean” franchise. They just know from ironic winking-at-the-camera and silly action set-pieces.

The Moore-Silverheels series was completely serious, not the fun romp the new movie will be. On 1950s TV, The Lone Ranger was a very special cowboy hero. He had more than a little mystery about him. With very few exceptions, his name “The Lone Ranger,” was only spoken as the last line of each show. (In the late 1960s I tuned in the cartoon series just once. Dialog went something like: “I wish the Lone Ranger was here. Oh, here comes the Lone Ranger. Hi, Lone Ranger.” I turned it off after about 5 minutes.)

As one commentator said in his eulogy when Clayton Moore died in 1999: “The Lone Ranger didn’t just bring justice; he restored innocence.” That was what was meant by the closing moments of each show, the “Who was that masked man?” followed by, “He’s the Lone Ranger!” and then the exuberant William Tell Overture over the credits. Something special had just happened that went beyond just rounding up the Bad Guys.

I fear you are going to wait in vain for anything similar in the upcoming film.

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ThereÂ’s anarchists over there, sir. And Atheists. And vegetarians, sir. Vegetarians!

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Verily I say unto thee...personally I preferred "The Range Rider" with Jock Mahoney and Dick Jones. Great humour and rapport between those two guys and they threw themselves into their many action scenes with gusto.

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Re: "Ja Ja Binks cast as Spiderman". I don't know about that, but the LONE RANGER replacement for a year can't be as bad as replacing Barbara Bel Geddes with Donna Reed as "Miss Ellie" for a season in DALLAS, then bringing back Bel Geddes the next year. (Her health was the reason for the hiatus.)

I don't know about the LONE RANGER dispute, but the producers probably thought it best to continue the show instead of cancelling it... and hope to bring Moore back later. Moore WAS the definitive LR, but they didn't want him to know that. :-)

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During his hiatus from the Lone Ranger, Moore played a bad guy with no mask on the Range Rider. There was no missing that voice.
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