Classic TV: The 40s : WWII on TV (during the war)

WWII on TV (during the war)

To what extent was WWII shown on TV.

For example were the Pathe news features broadcast?

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TV was not in wide use until after the war. There were newsreels in movie theaters, though.

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When one of the Atomic bombs was dropped (not sure which), at least one of the DuMont stations did a telecast mentioning it.

I read that the stations (this was pre-network era) did "infomation" programs related to home life during WW2 (presumably stuff related to making most of limited resources and stuff like that), but I don't know much about this.

However, since kinscope recording was not invented until 1947, we are unlikely to see these telecasts, unless they are still floating outwards through space.


By comparison, the later Cold war was better represented on TV. Lots of programs related to it during the 1950s: Documentaries/propaganda, spy shows, "Life is Worth Living" mentions, etc etc.


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Thanks that is interesting some homes did own boxes hence why I created the thread even through TV was not a mass medium at the time.

As you mention the cold war, I believe Vietnam is the first 'TV war' or something to that effect.

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In the US at least TV services were shut down during the war, with the agreement they could resume broadcasting once the war ended. Before the war sets were horribly expensive, and not much programing was available anyway even if you owned one.

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Programming was *reduced* in the US during WW2...but there was still a certain amount of TV broadcasting during the war. For example, on December 18 1944, DuMont's WABD-TV broadcast a RKO-produced TV movie (a 1-hour drama) called Talk Fast, Mister .

Per "TV obscurities" website:
Both WNBT and WCBW drastically cut their television output beginning in June of 1942. WNBT broadcast a series of Air Warden Basic Courses in June, while WCBW aired Red Cross programs on Thursdays.

"The Voice of Firestone Televues" is an example of an entertainment program broadcast during the war.


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Very interesting, I suppose as a different way of approaching my original question is this.


When did News broadcasting start on TV?

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I don't know much about the history of TV news, so I can't answer. The modern-style newscast didn't come until the late-1940s, though.


The oldest *surviving* US newscasts come from 1949 (oldest surviving UK newscasts, which were closer to a television newsreel, comes from around 1953 or so).

Here's a 1949 NBC newscast:
http://archive.org/details/NbcNews17march1949

Additionally, there are some surviving kinescope recordings of late-1940s current-affairs/discussion programs (the oldest that I know of is a 7 December 1948 episode of "The People's Platform").



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I remember watching Douglas Edwards With the News on CBS in the late 1940's. The show was 15 minutes long.

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I remember Edwards a bit later. Was Cronkite the guy that came after him? I know Murrow was around,and there was a problem with Bob Trout not taking over at that time.

p.s. John Cameron Swayze was the guy at NBC before Huntley\Brinkley took over.
I forget the ABC guy's name; didn't he later host a game show? Seems like ages ago... ;-\

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The networks telecast the Republican and Democratic National Conventions for the first time in 1948. They were held in Philedelphia, which was one of the few cities connected by coaxial cable, so they could be televised live. A couple of interesting stories about the telecasts:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1998-06-27/features/1998178047_1_convention-activities-national-conventions-convention-in-philadelphia

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500164_162-219251.html

and actual clips from NBC's TV coverage survive and are here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmgq3YJWOQQ

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In Europe, one television station did broadcast durring WW2:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernsehsender_Paul_Nipkow
Interestingly, it was rarely used for Nazi propaganda, but that was because Goebbels preffered to spread his propaganda garbage on radio.

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I read about a filmed (not live) music broadcast from 1944 called Hymn of the Nations, which was related to WW2. The Paley Center for Media lists it on their site, so it might still be extant.
http://www.paleycenter.org/collection/item/?q=hymn+of+nations&p=1& amp;item=B:15197



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For anyone interested in naval warfare, a WWII series titled Victory at Sea with incredible orchestral music composed by Richard Rodgers and played by the NBC Symphony was broadcast on television in the US in 1952-53.

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In a 1944 broadcasting day (running a couple hours or so), CBS station WCBW presented, among other things, two information films about WW2, among them "Negro Colleges in Wartime", see third column from left:
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=qBoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT12&dq=%2 2vera+massey%22+cbs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=FP6DUrSAC-eZiQfY-IDQAg&a mp;a mp;ved=0CDUQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=%22vera%20massey%22%20cbs&f=f alse

You can view the film (which is public domain) here:

https://archive.org/details/NegroCol1944


WCBW presented a fair number of WW2 informational films during 1944, they weren't produced solely for television, but they nevertheless represent early examples of television-aired content.

Their other presentations during the day also included a musical show called "Will You Remember" with Vera Massey. I am preparing a Wikipedia page for the show right now, hope to get it ready to post soon.
EDIT: Here is the page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_You_Remember%3F_(TV_series)

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slowly and surely finding some great links in this thread
thanks.

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Another 1944 link, to a article in Billboard mentioning WCBW showing the propaganda film "The Negro Solider" (see second column from left):
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=twwEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT10&dq=%2 2vera+massey%22+cbs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Eh2EUpW1A8nwlAXizoCgBA&a mp;ved=0CE8Q6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=%22vera%20massey%22%20cbs&f=f alse

I hope you find this interesting. In other pages, I came across mentions of WW2-related discussion/interview programs. Probably propaganda, and unlike the films, the discussion programs are lost today.
Under column "CBS" you'll find a description of one of these programs:
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=hwwEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT11&dq=%2 2vera+massey%22+cbs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Eh2EUpW1A8nwlAXizoCgBA&a mp;ved=0CEsQ6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=%22vera%20massey%22%20cbs&f=f alse


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I grew up during WWII in England and I never laid eyes on a TV until I saw one in a store window in the late forties. My parents, and grandparents, my brothers and I, stood and stared at it for about a half-hour. We were entranced. Don't ask what program was showing; I have no clue.
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