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Where is Middleton?

I posted this in a reply on another thread, but I thought I'd try to get people's opinion on this. What state is Middleton in?

I've been trying to figure out exactly what state Middleton is in (of course, the real answer is that they won't ever say, it's just generic, but it's still fun to try to figure out from the clues).

John said that the Middleton University was a "midwest college." That means that it's in one of 12 states (Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Kansas, South Dakota, North Dakota).

Ben said that he had moved to Middleton from Kansas, so that let's that state out.

Nick said that London was "six hours ahead" of Middleton. That places Middleton in the Central Time Zone, so Michigan, Ohio and Indiana are out.

Sam's friend Doug said that he "rarely gets this far north of Chicago" That leaves out Missouri for sure, and probably leaves out Nebraska and Iowa (although technically parts of those states could be considered "north" of Chicago). That also most likely leaves out Illinois, because you can't get that far north of Chicago before you're in Wisconsin. North Dakota and South Dakota are technically north of Chicago, but that's like saying that Los Angeles is south of Wyoming. Well, yes it is, but would you really phrase it like that?

My best bet at this point in either Wisconsin or Minnesota. And considering there really is a Middleton, Wisconsin (outside of Madison), that's my choice for now until we get more information.

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Have you seen all the movies? I seem to remember them saying it was in Illinois. I also recall an episode where they showed an aerial shot of Middleton and it was on a shoreline. So that would put it North of Chicago but still in the state of Illinois on the shore of Lake Michigan.

In reality it's the city of Hamilton just outside of Toronto though.

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I have seen all the movies. They've definitely never mentioned Illinois. There was once a map on the wall of Jakes office that was in reality a Chicago area map (with suburb names, etc), but it was never addressed in dialogue.

It COULD be Illinois, but when Sam's friend said that he was rarely "this far north of Chicago", you can't get very far north of Chicago before you get to Wisconsin. And Wisconsin also borders Lake Michigan, so that certainly still fits.

Of course, they'll never come right out and say where it is. It's just supposed to be Middleton, USA (sorry, it's definitely the states, not Canada despite being filmed there). But Wisconsin has sort of a Canadian sounding accent if that helps! :)

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It's definitely supposed to be the states yes. You can tell from things like the American flags and police uniforms. But there are more than a few actors with unmistakable Canadian accents. Their accents seem to be getting better though as time goes on. And there are the occasional street signs that are obviously Canadian.

I would personally go with Illinois if I had to guess the state where it's intended to be. But indeed, it could be Wisconsin. The accents are definitely not from Wisconsin though.

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I went to college in Wisconsin, and a lot of Wisconsinites don't have the accent that you normally associate with that area. But when they shoot in Canada, there is invariably going to be Canadian accents that slip through. Having lived there for several years, it's difficult not to hear!

I don't remember any street signs that screamed out "Canada" to me, but perhaps I just missed them.

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Actually, I just realized that in Good Witch: Halloween, Brandon finds the car with out of state license plates and they are from Illinois. All the other license plates in the show are a different design (and they say "The Falcon State" on them, which is of course nothing). So I would say Illinois is definitely excluded from the list of possibilities.

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At what point in that episode did they say his license plates were out of state? Other than the different design, I never noticed the plates on the cars but from what you described it sounds like they were using prop license plates, not plates that come from any real state. It doesn't imply that Middleton isn't supposed to be in Illinois though. You could also point to the fact that signs don't say Do Not Enter or One Way on them which is purely Canadian, not to mention all the Canadian accents you can't miss from the majority of the cast. It's just an artifact of the fact that this is TV and not real life. So I still think it's supposed to be Illinois since they're always talking about Chicago as a nearby city. But you have a point about the plates looking different. Maybe the location of Middleton including the exact state it's in is supposed to be ambiguous.

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I understand what you're saying, but I feel like the license plates are pretty definitive. Yes, they just use generic plates for Middleton residents, but because they specifically used Illinois plates for that one car, I feel they were definitely trying to say out of state.

And just because Chicago is the nearest big city, doesn't mean it's in Illinois. If you lived in southern Wisconsin, Chicago would definitely be the nearest big city (Many people I went to college with in Wisconsin moved to Chicago after graduation).

But they almost certainly will never give a definitive state, which will leave us all guessing. Let's see what clues season 3 brings us when it premieres in April.

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During the opening credits of Good Witch: Secrets of Grey House, when Jessica and Sean arrive, the car has NY plates.

https://goo.gl/FnbBtL

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True, but they were coming from out of town. They either drove in (seems unlikely), or it's a rental car, and they often have out of state plates. I can't remember if they said that they drove in or flew in, but I know they were driving around and missed their turnoff and that's why they ended up at Grey House.

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I think it's one town over from Stars Hollow.


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It is mentioned in a few episodes, particularly Season 2's Halloween episode, that it's in the state of New York; probably upstate somewhere.

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You'd think so. It definitely looks like upstate New York. But trust me you're mistaken. They've explicitly said that it's in the greater Chicago area, and that it's in the Central Time zone.

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Florida
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