Younger : Would you be mad?

If you were Kelsey, how mad would you be? To me, it's not that big of a deal, but I'm a pragmatic, not overly emotional person. I would understand why she did it, and even why she felt she couldn't come clean after having been stuck in the lie for so long. As long as I felt she was otherwise sincere, and that she had proven herself to have my back, and be supportive, which I think she has, I'd forgive her. Especially if she came clean to me first before I found out otherwise. Everything else about their friendship was real, and they have a strong bond. Age is just a number.

But, like I said, I am practical about the human mind, and how it works, and how someone intelligent can be a good person while doing stupid things, even against their better judgement. I would ultimately judge her on whether she meant to do harm with her lie. To me, she didn't set out to hurt people, she just wanted a job.

It wouldn't be a huge, huge deal to me. I mean they've gotten really close and obvious they both care for each other. Also it's not like Liza lied for nefarious reasons or anything. I might would be a little irked when I first found but I'd get over quickly. I don't think Liza's lie was that bad, tbh. It's not like she was hiding a life as a hitman or something.

I feel like Josh the martyr was way overdramatic about it

I wouldnt be mad. To me it wouldnt be a big deal and that she did it in the first place was only because she was facing so much ageism. But Kelsey has been through the ringer with Laurens boyfriend moving in (and putting his exercise equipment in her room who does that?) then Collin kicking her out (after everything she did for him youd think he could give her the benefit of the doubt for a few days regardless of what his ex did) so it might have a different impact on her just now than it would at another time. That Liza lied to her might feel like just one more betrayal.

What Im really interested in is how Diana will react if/when she finds out.

I would probably be a little miffed that she was lying to me for so long, but after she explained her situation to me I think I would understand. Kelsey, though, has been childish and immature at times, so I doubt she's going to be sympathetic. Especially since she's going through a lot right now, as well. I'm sure this will change the dynamic between them, but I think she will come around.

It could really hurt Kelsey at work as the head of an imprint that caters to millennials. Their success and reputation are predicated on the founders being in the demographic that they're targeting.

I think a lot of people on this thread are saying they wouldn't be mad because we've all been on Liza's journey with her. So we know she's not a bad person. We see her struggle with the lies and how she cares for everyone. And I'm hoping Kelsey will forgive her. But Liza's lies have gotten progressively selfish. Yes in part to keep her cover but she's not just risking her own career, she's risking Kelsey's, Diana's and Charles' as well. And she's very close with Kelsey, they aren't just coworkers. If a friend that close to me was hiding such a huge secret that affected not only our friendship but our work lives too I'd be angry. And being mad at that isn't being "overly emotional" that's the appropriate reaction. Being immediately understanding and forgiving isn't how the majority of people would react in this scenario. Yes I'm sure you are the exception because you're just so much better than "emotional" people lol But don't forget Liza also hid the blackmail from Kelsey's fianc. I find it hard to believe you'd forgive that so easily.

I still hope Kelsey will remain Liza's friend and I think she will. Maybe not right away. If someone did this to me I'd like to think I would eventually come around and forgive them because they did at least come forward with the truth and explain. But I don't think anyone truly knows how they'd react.

No the reason I say I wouldn't be mad is because to me it's not huge - it's nothing. If I'd known her age from the beginning it wouldn't have stopped me being her friend. I can't see how she's hurting anyone's career but her own (unless there's someone in HR who gets in trouble for not doing a proper background check). If they knew and covered for her that would be a different thing but author's aren't going to stop signing with them because an assistant is 40. People aren't going to stop reading their books because of it.

It is a tricky situation. I think at first, I'd probably be pretty upset, partially because the truth fundamentally changes who Liza is, and that fundamentally changes the relationship. Liza and Kelsey are no longer peers, coming up in the world together. But I think that given the friendship and shared experiences, I would probably calm down and forgive her eventually. Especially with this new information, I would probably see the 'real' Liza was there all the time, with the kind of support and advice she had been offering, and the stories she shared. And I'd remember that the friendship had survived some pretty serious issues before, the fiance's death, crises at work, the many complications of Kelsey's love life, etc.

But the sticky thing is I think despite my best efforts, though I could forgive, I'm not sure I could forget. There would always be a little bit of doubt, a little lack of trust towards Liza going forward. Maybe over time it would fade?


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I would be upset. Kelsey thought they were good friends but not only did Liza lie about her age, she his the fact that she had a child. She was living a lie.

I'm going to go against the grain and say that honestly, I would be pissed off, creeped out and completely distrustful moving forward.




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> But, like I said, I am practical about the human mind, and how it works,

You've also had 3 seasons of shows to see it from Liza's perspective so you know her intentions. You might not be so equanimous without that.

We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behaviour.
Stephen M.R. Covey