Western : Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

As many here probably know, I'm a huge fight aficionado; I love nothing more than an exciting bout between two well-matched adversaries in the movies. I've already indulged this "passion" in several places at this forum, so I decided to create a stand-alone thread.

In undertaking the exhaustive task of compiling all of the great, noteworthy mano-a-mano fight scenes, it became obvious to me that the Western has given us more than its share in this department. Here's what I have, so far. Many of the following were uploaded by yours truly. Check out my channel to see other great, non-western related scraps.

Let's get ready to rrrrrrumbllllllllllle!

EDIT--ALL OF THE SCENES WILL BE COLLECTED HERE AS THEY ARE UPDATED, FOR VIEWERS' CONVENIENCE.

Mano-a-Mano (chronologically):

John Wayne vs. Randolph Scott in The Spoilers (often confused as a western when it technically isn't, the gold medal winner for greatest fight scene in any genre):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB3nJegtM0A

John Wayne vs. Randolph Scott in Pittsburgh (not a western either, but how could I not include the rematch?):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om-GB7inALw

John Wayne vs. Albert Dekker in In Old Oklahoma:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYb6yxRRgE

Montgomery Clift vs. John Wayne in Red River:

(deleted...far too short, IMO.)

Dick Powell vs. Guinn 'Big Boy' Williams in Station West:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZee6XQy0Ws

Robert Mitchum vs. Robert Preston in Blood on the Moon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=467PwKFygbE

Randolph Scott vs. Robert Ryan in Return of the Bad Men:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seeBRkvS1Bo

Randolph Scott vs. Forrest Tucker in Coroner Creek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNRHdOL-QWw

Randolph Scott vs. Forrest Tucker in The Nevadan:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10xloo_the-nevadan-1950-fight-scene_ shortfilms#.UbzueZxu_Xs

Randolph Scott vs. Jock Mahoney in Santa Fe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDAXatq6Q1c

Randolph Scott vs. John Russell in Man in the Saddle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKDl5cYCvo

Randolph Scott vs. Lee Marvin in Hangman's Knot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMq20iaCmI

Gary Cooper vs. Lloyd Bridges in High Noon:

(deleted)

Alan Ladd vs. Ben Johnson in Shane:

(deleted)

Alan Ladd vs. Van Heflin in Shane:

(deleted)

Robert Wagner vs. Richard Widmark in Broken Lance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHA8th4bSo

Randolph Scott vs. Don Megowan in A Lawless Street:

(deleted)

Clatyon Moore vs. Michael Ansara in The Lone Ranger:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1255be_the-lone-ranger-1956-fight-sc ene_shortfilms#.UewliG1LjXs

Gary Cooper vs. Jack Lord in Man of the West:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRR1cFytGS4

Gregory Peck vs. Charlton Heston in The Big Country:

(deleted)

Robert Ryan vs. Jack Lambert in Day of the Outlaw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaFJofR8dS8

Don Murray vs. Richard Egan in These Thousand Hills:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NzTH1kdxKI

Rock Hudson vs. Kirk Douglas in The Last Sunset:

(deleted)

Kirk Douglas vs. Bill Raisch in Lonely Are the Brave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUGTzfrpMJ4

Chuck Connors vs. Claude Atkins in Ride Beyond Vengeance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeKJiMiNdNk

Richard Harrison vs. Goffredo Unger in Vengeance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS0Yo459KFM

Clint Walker vs. Leo Gordon in The Night of the Grizzly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8MOzFiiuyg

Rod Taylor vs. Ernest Borgnine in Chuka:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI3ZOcCOhPE

Burt Lancaster vs. Ossie Davis in The Scalphunters (I plan on re-doing this at a later date):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1wr_yTtnb8

Glenn Ford vs. Arthur Kennedy in Day of the Evil Gun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwvJyqg0G9g

John Wayne vs. Bruce Dern in The Cowboys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So_3INx8Tvk

Charles Bronson vs. Archie Moore in Breakheart Pass:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xnrxv3_breakheart-pass-1975-fight-sce ne_shortfilms

T.V.:

Clint Walker vs. Leo Gordon in "Cheyenne - The Outlander":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7CvYlsFkZI

Clint Walker vs. Leo Gordon in "Cheyenne - Vengeance is Mine" (epic, the pair's best fight scene):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVsUw9eFIW0

W. Earl Brown vs. Allan Graf in "Deadwood - A Two-Headed Beast":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Blki-DISUis

Brawls:

Dodge City:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2GIirKPy6g

Shane:

(deleted)

Yellowstone Kelly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1cEzqt31Q

Ride the High Country:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsTz14nQdnQ

Jeffrey Hunter and Ken Curtis had a silly little spat in The Searchers, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble of getting. If you have anything that I'm forgetting, I'd love to hear it!

Do you have a favorite? Any dream confrontations (kindly ignore the innuendo there, please)? Let's get some discussion going on this topic of topics!!!

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Verily I say unto thee...Chuck Connors vs. Claude Akins in RIDE BEYOND VENGEANCE might be the western fistfight to end 'em all.Check it out.

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

I knew I could count on you for this one, Bap.

I'll take your recommendation. If it's indeed worthy, it'll go up here.

Cheers.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Robert Ryan and Randolph Scott in RETURN OF THE BAD MEN
Victor Jory and Glenn Ford in MAN FROM THE ALAMO
Richard Egan and Don Murray in THESE THOUSAND HILLS
Robert Mitchum and Robert Preston in BLOOD ON THE MOON
Spencer Tracy and Ernest Borgnine in BAD DAY AT BLACK ROCK (Ernie never laid a glove on him)
Richard Widmark and Robert Wagner in BROKEN LANCE
Arthur Kennedy and James Stewart in THE MAN FROM LARAMIE
James Cagney and Stephen McNally in TRIBUTE TO A BAD MAN
Roy Rogers and Dave Sharpe in BELLS OF SAN ANGELO
Guy Madison and Rory Calhoun in MASSACRE RIVER


"Howdy, Bub"

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

The beat down the Robert Ryan administered to Raymond Burr in "Horizons West" was memorable, although very one-sided. Ryan had been an undefeated boxer at Dartmouth, so fight scenes with him have an unusual amount of authenticity (his film "The Set-Up" is one of the best boxing films ever made).




"I don't drink, I don't smoke - two out of three ain't bad" - Bob Crane

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

I appreciate the replies so far, but I suppose I should clarify, before the thread progresses any further, that I don't consider "beat-downs" to be good fights. For me, a worthwhile fight contains at least a laudable defense from the eventual loser. The best are ones where the momentum alternates.

@ titusmoody: Do any of those fit my preference, or are they all more or less like the ass-kicking Spencer Tracy dealt Ernest Borgnine in Bad Day at Black Rock?

Cheers.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

All the rest fit your preference, Sean.

"Howdy, Bub"

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

"I appreciate the replies so far, but I suppose I should clarify, before the thread progresses any further, that I don't consider "beat-downs" to be good fights. For me, a worthwhile fight contains at least a laudable defense from the eventual loser. The best are ones where the momentum alternates."

Sorry for the confusion; I mentioned the Ryan fight because I recall it was well shot and very realistic.

Using your criteria, most of the best fights have been listed by either you or titusmoody, but I know there's a few more that should be included if I can think of them.


"I don't drink, I don't smoke - two out of three ain't bad" - Bob Crane

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Hey, how about Marlene Dietrich vs. Una Merkel in DESTRY RIDES AGAIN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHk86NsGIv8

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

The brawl between Marlene and Una was originally being filmed with stunt women. Not good enough for Marlene, who said it sucked and that she and Una could do it better, lol. So they got rid of the stunt women. Marlene was right.

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

And I don't think anyone's mentioned the fight between Gary Cooper and Jack Lord in MAN OF THE WEST, one of the few western fights where the loser is undressed at the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRR1cFytGS4

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Wow! That is quite a fight. How could we have forgotten about it? For a little guy, Lord puts up one hell of a fight, even though he loses and is undressed at the end. It looks to me as if Cooper was quite a bit taller.




Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

"For a little guy, Lord puts up one hell of a fight, even though he loses and is undressed at the end. It looks to me as if Cooper was quite a bit taller."

That was a great fight, although I don't know if Lord was a little guy; maybe compared to the 6'3"/6'4" Cooper, he looked like one.


"I don't drink, I don't smoke - two out of three ain't bad" - Bob Crane

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

You're right. I looked it up. Lord was 5'11". Compared to Cooper, he looked quite short.




Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Great post. Watched them all.

Best Fight had to be Heston and Peck- Two guys of equal size duking it out.

Most one-sided fight had to be Hudson stomping on the much smaller Kirk Douglas.

Most surprising outcome had to be Leo Gordon almost beating Clint Walker.




Dynasty

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Just thought of another one: Kirk Douglas vs. Bill Raisch in the cafe in LONELY ARE THE BRAVE. No youtube link (the DVD's just come out), but a still:

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/80/Lonely_Are_the_Br ave_screenshot.jpg/300px-Lonely_Are_the_Brave_screenshot.jpg

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Yes. That was a good one.

For some reason, I can't get the Hudson-Douglas fight out of my head. Rock really looked like he would have killed Kirk in a real fight.




Dynasty

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Verily I say unto thee...yes but as it was Hudson that Douglas was fighting then Kirk might have been fighting for more than just his life.

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Can you explain your comment, please? I didn't understand it.

Thanks.





Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Verily I say unto thee...just me being flippant.

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

titusmoody:

Thanks. Gonna have to seek those out when I have the time.

Doc-McCoy:

No problem Doc...I'm honored you can grace my thread! Always a pleasure to see you crop up in places. Btw, I'm really looking forward to viewing The Set-Up. Mr. Wise was a gifted dude.

PeterD:

Great find with Man of the West. Added.

Bap:

Watched Ride Beyond Vengeance. Forgettable film, but you're right, phenomenal fight scene. It's not quite The Spoilers (which still wears the crown, as far as I'm concerned), but it's in the top tier.

Unfortuately, Sony Vegas has been giving me problems, so I haven't been able to get the scene where the audio is in synch with the visuals. I'm hoping to rectify that problem shortly, and hopefully everybody else here will be able to see this titanic struggle (if they haven't already.)

In the meantime, I found another one. I haven't seen the film, but its reputation makes me eager to do so.

The following is John Wayne (undisputed king of fist-flying in the movies) vs. Bruce Dern in The Cowboys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqxHhnUJnMI

Cheers ya'll!

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

How about George Kennedy vs. Charles Bronson in the TV movie Bull of the West (also known as "Hot Lead")?
It's from 1971. Kennedy was huge. Take a look at the fight scene.

And James Arness vs. Charles Bronson on "Gunsmoke- The Killer- Act 3."
Arness was even bigger than Kennedy. Arness really towers over Bronson.




Dynasty

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)


How about George Kennedy vs. Charles Bronson in the TV movie Bull of the West (also known as "Hot Lead")?
It's from 1971. Kennedy was huge. Take a look at the fight scene.

Not a good fight. I've already specified that a one-sided beatdown does not fit my criteria of a good fight, and this is exactly that. Bronson gets one punch in before getting 7 shades of $hit kicked out of him. It's rough watching him get owned like that, considering how much of a badass he is. And despite Kennedy's massive size (he also tooled on Paul Newman in much the same fashion in Cool Hand Luke), I don't think that's very realistic. In real life, Bronson wouldn't have been such an easy opponent.

So no, it's not being added.

Thanks a lot for the effort though!

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Agreed. Sorry about that. It is very one-sided. I always root for the underdog (Bronson in this case) and he sadly looks pathetic against the likes of Kennedy.





Dynasty

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

I also cheer for the underdog. Wow. I thought Bronson would have put up a better fight against Kennedy, but again it was only a movie.

I looked at the scene with James Arness and Bronson. I don't think Bronson would have made out too well against Arness. Do you see how Arness dwarfs him?
It must be close to a foot difference in height.




Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

"Btw, I'm really looking forward to viewing The Set-Up. Mr. Wise was a gifted dude."

Sean, have you had a chance to see "The Set-Up"? When you do, pls. post your opinion of it.



"I don't drink, I don't smoke - two out of three ain't bad" - Bob Crane

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Randolph Scott and John Russell in "Man in the Saddle", also Dick Powel has quite a fight in Station West.

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Alright boys. I did it. Bap wasn't kidding; this here has a prestigious spot in the royal palace of fight scenes.

Check out the majestic greatness that is Chuck Connors vs. Claude Akins in Ride Beyond Vengeance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeKJiMiNdNk

These 'stats' aren't going to be a fixture, but I have to point out several things:

Best moment: The haymaker that Claude delivers at 1:00. I'm not sure what it is about this moment, but I think it has to do with the editing. Old Claude gets pummeled out of the frame, only to respond with a speedy, viscious right that sends Chuck reeling.

Funniest moment: The old woman that inexplicably runs through the middle of the fray, only to get layed out at 1:48.

Stupidest moment(s): The superfluous shots of that jackass bartender. What bloody purpose does the peon serve other than to supremely annoy?

Most implausible moment: Chuck throwing Claude into the glass mirror behind the bar; should have been the other way around.

Enjoy folks.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Speaking of fist fights, does anybody know how, where, or why that ridiculous sound effect for fist hitting chin came from? I hope you know the one I mean, because I don't know how to type noise.

For Sean Joyce- Chuck Connors vs. Claude Akins

Without a doubt...one of the best fight scenes ever. I never saw it before.

Thanks.




Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Another good fight scene from "Red River." Bruce Boxleitner vs. James Arness.
It was a good exchange of knockdown punches between the two. Though Arness (who was probably much stronger) towered over the 6'1" tall Boxletiner, Boxleitner hold his own.





Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Wow. Great fight. Chuck really turns the tide at 1:15 into the fight. I think with Chuck's height and build, it would be tough for most guys to beat him.




Dynasty

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Geographically speaking, neither is actually a western, but the films The Spoliers and Pittsburgh both have a great fight scene with John Wayne and Randolph Scott.

Scott also has a great fight with Lon Chaney in Albuquerque and with Forrest Tucker in The Nevadan.

It ain't easy being green, or anything else, other than to be me

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Another excellent fight scene. James Arness Vs. Ben Siple (John Anderson) It's referred to "Battle Remix" from an episode of "Gunsmoke."

Arness is one big guy, but this is not a one-sided brawl, as he takes on the much smaller tough guy- John Anderson.

Yes. And that is Jack Klugman at the end of the clip, with Arness towering over him.




Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

@ clore_2:

Wayne and Scott's classic brawl in The Spoilers has been mentioned by me numerous times in this thread, and a link is available in the OP. I was aware that they also clashed in Pittsburgh, but I haven't taken the time to look it up. I've heard that it was much shorter than their other "encounter". I'll look into it.

Anyhow, I re-upped a much better quality version of the fight from The Night of the Grizzly. Walker and Gordon, two big, tough men, tearing into each other is a sight to behold. It's one of my favorite fights. Here ya go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8MOzFiiuyg

I've had a lot of $hit going on lately, but I'll be back here soon with one that I promise is going to knock the socks off of anyone who hasn't seen it.

Cheers.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Wow! Excellent quality. Good job.





Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Alright boys, I got a real doozie for ya's. I didn't miss tmwest's little suggestion up above. I checked it out, and let me tell you, it's one of the great ones.

Check out Randolph Scott vs. John Russell in Man in the Saddle in all of its cabin-wrecking, slope-sliding glory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJVn-fCjjO0

Cheers.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Excellent fight scene and Scott and Russell seem to be evenly matched.





Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

masterman, I think you and I are the only ones continuing to pay this thread any mind; ah well. I'm still going to keep it updated when I snag a good fight scene. Thanks for the comments.

Anyways, here's the newest addition to the collection: Randolph Scott (yet again; he probably takes a close second to Wayne as far as king of movie fights go) vs. a young, fierce Lee Marvin in Hangman's Knot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVMq20iaCmI

grantaubin was right; it's a terrific scrap, and the film is a damn good one. Very professional and all-around solid production.

Cheers.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Yes. I find it intriguing, so keep them coming. They're great. And the fight between Randolph Scott and Lee Marvin is excellent.

Thanks again.





Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Anybody have any others?





Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Thunder of Drums- I never thought I'd see these two guys fight each other.
Charles Bronson and George Hamilton. They really had a good fight scene in this one. Punches galore by both guys.

To my chagrin, Hamilton gets a few more in and pummels Bronson at the end, but Bronson got some great shots in as well.

Definitely worth watching.




Dynasty

Re: THE MOTHER of ALL fistfights in Westerns (links included)

That's quite alright. I know that SeanJoyce spent a lot of time gathering these clips together and I wanted you to know.




Baby I'm Yours

Re: THE MOTHER of ALL fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Thanks for the replies, boys.

I'm glad you decided to grace us, archip. I uploaded most of these, including the two fights from Shane.

You're right that I excluded the big brawl, but that's because I've only been intent on one-on-one contests so far. The melee in the bar shortly following Ladd's dominance of Johnson will most likely be added here sometime in the near future.

I'm still looking for suggestions from people.

Cheers.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: Another One

I can still watch Rock Hudson and Kirk Douglas go at it in "The Last Sunset."
Awesome fight.





Baby I'm Yours

At a loss

Again, I don't know why that particular scrap has proven so popular. It's too brief for one; two, the size disproportion makes for a rather one-sided affair.

Perhaps its notoriety is a figment of my imagination, and I'm just noticing the redundant praises of 1 or 2 individuals.

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino

Re: At a loss

Hey Sean,

Not sure why I find it so intriguing. I like watching it in slow motion. Maybe it's a big guy vs. little guy thing? And is it a one-sided affair?




Baby I'm Yours

Re: THE MOTHER of ALL fistfights in Westerns (links included)

The very first post of this thread, by SeanJoyce, has the actual fights between Alan Ladd vs. Ben Johnson and Alan Ladd vs. Van Heflin.





Baby I'm Yours

Re: Good old-fashioned fistfights in Westerns (links included)

Got another one for the few interested parties.

This is Robert Wagner vs. Richard Widmark in Broken Lance (thanks for the tip titus!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHA8th4bSo

"...if that was off, I'd be whoopin' your ass up and down this street." ~ an irate Tarantino
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