Star Wars: The Force Awakens : So when they did stop cloning Storm Troopers????

So when they did stop cloning Storm Troopers????

In Attack of the Clones it was established that the imperial Storm Troopers were all clones of Jango Fett mass produced on the planet of Kamino.

Now we have John Boyega as a recruit. Did they explain why they stopped using clones? Or the war effort needed so many that the clone factories couldn't keep up? Where in the timeline did the Storm Troopers stop being Jango Fett clones?

Re: So when they did stop cloning Storm Troopers????

Sigh. Between ROTS and ANH they stopped using clones. Because it was all done on a single planet. It takes ten years for clones to mature but with a short lifespan. And at one point the clones were programmed against the Empire.
Recruiting normal people was cheaper and better.

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Re: So when they did stop cloning Storm Troopers????

I suspect that the "cheaper" was an issue. The First Order was a fairly recent development and didn't control the whole galaxy, and maybe they couldn't afford both planet-killer weapons and entire pre-made clone armies from Kamino.

It's obvious that the Republic of the prequels was a VERY wealthy place, a few decades of war may have changed that.


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Recruiting normal people was cheaper and better.
Well, the real key was that the Empire was stronger with more people working for it than against it, and obviously a way to achieve that is to not got too far in excluding the populace of the galaxy from service.

Re: So when they did stop cloning Storm Troopers????

Right after they all started turning black.

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In Attack of the Clones it was established that the imperial Storm Troopers were all clones of Jango Fett mass produced on the planet of Kamino.
No. It wasn't. The moniker "stormtrooper" wasn't even applied to them. It's merely implied that, when Empire was established, its stormtrooper corps would be initially staffed by clone troopers.


Now we have John Boyega as a recruit.
He isn't a normal recruit in the traditional sense of the word. He was raised by the people he'd ultimately serve.


Did they explain why they stopped using clones?
No. But you have to understand that the First Order isn't the Galactic Empire.


Or the war effort needed so many that the clone factories couldn't keep up?
The animated series The Clone Wars may have some clues. The key is that it's important not to exclude capable people and, above all, loyal people from the Empire's principal fighting force.


Where in the timeline did the Storm Troopers stop being Jango Fett clones?
It's believed that Clones stopped being conceived in Jango's image just a few years after his death.

Re: So when they did stop cloning Storm Troopers????

The Clones were phased out after the Clone Wars, I imagine production ceased on the clones sometime around the end of the war, if not earlier.

In AOTC it was established that Republic Clones were all clones of Jango Fett. The general style of military attire that would become the Imperial military style was also established. That may be where your confusion comes in. Just because they dress the same does not mean they are the same.

In universe, about a year after ROTJ takes place, the Empire ceased to be. But remnants of its military went into hiding where at some point Snoke found them and reorganized them into the First Order. The FO kept the aesthetic of the Imperial military and most of its practices, including conscription or, as in Finn's case, outright kidnapping.

I think the use of Clones remains an option to any group wanting to build a military, but a very expensive option. In the case of the Clone Wars, that was a phony war engineered by the Sith to destroy the Jedi and the Republic. It turns out that the Sith paid handsomely for the Clones in secret during the two decades leading up to the Clone Wars.
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