They are as strong or even more than the empire was.
secretly built that super weapon, but as a group they are not as big and all-powerful as the Empire. They don't control star systems, they don't have martial law, they're basically bullies who rose from the ashes of the Empire.
They want to be the new Empire, but they are not quite there yet.
UT WHY THE FRAK IZ THAT NOT IN THE DAMN MOVIE?
CHina made that illegal and closed off the afterlife...
having advanced vehicles (like 2-man Ties with life support sytems that can hover in an atmosphere)
we never saw Ties (other than X Wings etc) in atmosphere in the OT.
Whait, what? Did you read what i wrote?
Just because they are more thechnological advanced, as one would expect, dosen't mean they are as powerful as the empire.
They are small. they terrorize a portion of the galaxy, and one with no major impact in the economy of the core worlds. that's why Leia formed the resistance, to help worlds that nobody cares about.
In the OT the empire was litterally everywhere. From the core to the outer rims, everything was controlled by the emperor. In TFA not even remotely, remotely close.
All we see is a thousand troopers, a Star Destroyer and SK base. Attacking a village in the outer rim and a Cantina in the outer rim, firing a weapon from the outer rim. Get it? they are out of the core and want in, the empire was in already
The only connection between the position of the empire and the first order is that all tech and wepons is based of the empire.
The empire and TFO are getting closer, but in TFA they are not still remotely as powerfull.
I did now. It does not make any sense logically. The problem is always the same:
Iz all NOT in the movie. I do not care for fanboy-splaining things that are not there. Iz bad writing.
Trivial deflection, dude, point is all is bigger, badder and moar powerful: moar planets destroyed, better spaceships, moar troops Hux can address, more Force powers moar! moar! moar!. Uh, I am afraid that barely agrees with your concept that these are just a weak militia of fanatics does it... especially if you command over the most powerful super weapons, destroyers, massive troops, fleets of spaceships etc - AND the powers that be (Republic) have no chance agsinst you and your enemies are an pityful underground band with a few old jets. I spell it out: B.A.D W.R.I.T.I.N.G by way of R.E.H.A.S.H.I.N.G dude
lol iz not in the movie, and even contradicts what is shown in the damn movie. Irrelevant speculation.
Jeez, iz not in the movie and even contradicts what is shown in the damn movie. Irrelevant speculation.
Lol rally let’s see:
dark side of the force = dark side of the Force
...And what was the evidence that was to convince me that they are any different again..?
lol, they just got their assess kicked royally by some underdogs blowing up their superweapon, like in that other movie with the real Empire. Iz not in the movie dude!
The single most pointed out flaw with the PT is too much politics
It's all based in something so what is your point?
The FO admires and wants to be the empire why shouldn't they have the same military structure (like every nation dictatorship or not)and updated versions of the tech?
It's a feature, not a flaw. In fact, it is the premise of the PT. If some people don't want to accept it, then it means that they never wanted to know the whole story. That fact that the character motives' and the events surrounding them were too convoluted, and just overall poorly conveyed, is the problem.
He is pointing out how the same things that demarcated the Rebel Alliance from the Galactic Empire are the same things that demarcated the Resistance from the First Order. It's like the same thing that happened before is happening again almost exact same way it happened before. When history repeats itself, it usually doesn't look like that. A space opera doesn't have to absolutely match up with realistic ways, but the sequel trilogy is an unimaginative stretch.
And it's kind of silly that such a condition doesn't rub the Republic the wrong way enough for them to afford the Resistance more support. So often the Imperials are treated as an allegory for Nazis, but yet when they're defeated, no denazification takes place. The Republic didn't bother to vow to not rest until every last ex Imperial officer was captured. They didn't bother to clean up the "ashes" out of which the First Order managed to emerge.
The resistance is not the republic, it's a faction.
The FO are based in a what if scenario if the NAzis exiled in argentina were to form a junta and rise again.
After posting i thought a real world exemple in ISIS, where a military force is spreading
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However the balancing between the two factions with the destruction of the republic became very similar to the original again. Like now the resistance is on its own against the big bad order.
The Republic isn't necessarily destroyed, but it's capitol definitely is. The Resistance now has every reason call forth the remaining Republic muscle to blitz Snoke. However, I don't believe this is the direction the writers intend to go.
The Republic is said to be demilitarized and most of the "fleet" was stationed at Hosnian Prime. If there is still significant muscle left than the First Order is even more stupid than I thought. And the writers have made it clear they wanna recapture the OT, which means the good guys have to be ragtag underdogs and never the Legitimate Reigning Establishment.
Now the victory in the end of episose six is just seems weightless
i'm sure the victory at the end of 'The war to end all wars' seemed kind of weightless once WW2 kicked off....
It's that it destroys all that the original heroes accomplished, which wasn't the least bit necessary to set up a new conflict for this trilogy.
it also regresses Han and Leia's relationship from one of mutual love to them breaking up....for some reason....
Not only does it treat the victory in "Jedi" as completely pointless
They are as strong or even more than the empire was