Cinderella : Cinderella or Ever After ?
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Ever After is my ultimate favorite, but I love this one too! I'll say Ever After only because it has been in my life since 1998! At this point, they are equal.
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I love Cinderella (1950), Ever After (1998) and Cinderella (2015) equally. I don't think neither are better than the other because they're three different films that stand on their own.
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Yes, and I'd throw in ''The Slipper And The Rose'' (1976).
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Yes, that's a good film, too. I also love Rodger and Hammerstein's Cinderella (1997) and Good Times animated Cinderella (1996).
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Yes, and I'd throw in ''The Slipper And The Rose'' (1976).
! Was thinking of it while watching this film. Love the look and score of that film.
George Lucas talking about: 'Hey, give it to me, I'll fix it. I'll make 20 more of them'
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Well said. I agree! :)
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Let's not forget "The Glass Slipper" with Leslie Caron.
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The Hilary Duff Cinderella was also good.The others you mentioned where real good as well.The new one is so beautifully done.I watched it last night with my mom
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I liked that one, too.
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I live in my own little world, but don't worry, they know me here!! (~_^)
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Ever After
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Hard to decide. I love Drew Barrymore's Cinderella, but I like this one a lot too. I think both, but for different reasons.
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House. My room. Cant walk. My medal. My father. Father, dont!
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Cinderella (2015)
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Ever After because this movie directly takes elements from Ever After (I mean from the very first scenes on!), which is now a classic retelling of the original "cinder girl." This is a cool way to recapture this generation's attention. But Ever After for me.
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Ever After is not, by any means, a classic retelling of the original "cinder girl". It was a realistic re-imagining that took many liberties with the story. Ever After and Cinderella (2015) should never be compared because they're two different films. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
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Enlighten me.
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Ever After because this movie directly takes elements from Ever After.
Enlighten me.
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Starting from the beginning scenes: the father bringing something home for her from a trip, introducing it in French, the way the stepmother and stepsisters are introduced and how he welcomes them from the carriage and the shot shows her long gown like it did Anjelica Huston's.
Not to mention later on when the prince repeats to the palace what he heard and liked from Ella: "Just because it's what's done doesn't mean it's what should be done.." Prince Henry repeated things he heard Danielle say to his parents.
A painter: Master Phineus in place of Leonardo Da Vinci
The scene where the mother/stepsisters discuss Cinderella's dress. Stepmother: "After all that I've done" and how she says they're rags and she can't possibly represent their noble lineage in them. SO reminiscent of Ever After.
The "agreement" between Stepmother and the well-off man (Grand Duke) after Stepmother locks Ella in her room.
Several scenes were almost like a remake of it. I'm not sure how anyone could miss it.
The new one is like an anthology of other Cinderella stories.
Not to mention later on when the prince repeats to the palace what he heard and liked from Ella: "Just because it's what's done doesn't mean it's what should be done.." Prince Henry repeated things he heard Danielle say to his parents.
A painter: Master Phineus in place of Leonardo Da Vinci
The scene where the mother/stepsisters discuss Cinderella's dress. Stepmother: "After all that I've done" and how she says they're rags and she can't possibly represent their noble lineage in them. SO reminiscent of Ever After.
The "agreement" between Stepmother and the well-off man (Grand Duke) after Stepmother locks Ella in her room.
Several scenes were almost like a remake of it. I'm not sure how anyone could miss it.
The new one is like an anthology of other Cinderella stories.
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Thank you!!! I knew I couldn't be the only to notice that Disney lifted parts directly from 21st Century Fox's Cinderella movie!!
And let's not forget that Kit almost had the first dance with a Spanish princess while in Ever After Henry almost married a Spanish princess.
And let's not forget that Kit almost had the first dance with a Spanish princess while in Ever After Henry almost married a Spanish princess.
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Ever After.
I live in my own little world, but don't worry, they know me here!! (~_^)
I live in my own little world, but don't worry, they know me here!! (~_^)
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Ever After was better. This was good too, but I liked the realism of Ever After and I really liked the fact that the stepmother got her comeuppance. Not so much in this movie, though I suppose the forgiveness fits with the Cinderella be kind thing properly. Also liked the humor of Ever After.
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I like both of them equally. I gave them the same rating.
Ever After avoids magic, this version uses a little bit of magic.
Both are very good versions, Lily is a bit cuter and Cinderella-like than Drew, but Drew is good and I like her independent streak.
Different movies, no need to rate one against the other, it is OK to like both about the same.
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Ever After avoids magic, this version uses a little bit of magic.
Both are very good versions, Lily is a bit cuter and Cinderella-like than Drew, but Drew is good and I like her independent streak.
Different movies, no need to rate one against the other, it is OK to like both about the same.
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Make a choice, to take a chance, to make a difference.
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Ever After shows what happens to the stepfamily and that's what makes me like it more. The 2015 film just mentions what happens and the 1950 story doesn't even do that.
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'Ever After' caters more to the revenge idea that is meaningful to some audiences, that is we hear what will happen and we see what actually becomes of the wicked stepmother and the evil daughter. We see that they got what we all figured was coming to them.
In 'Cinderella' 2015 we hear Ella say she forgives her wicked stepmom and stepsisters, it goes along with the theme of kindness that runs through the story. So it doesn't really matter what happened to them.
And there is another major difference. 'Cinderella' 2015 is closer to a classic tale with the fairy godmother and the magic that creates a beautiful gown and that changes the pumpkin and the animals, then the reverting at midnight.
'Ever After' is all realistic and remember it begins and ends with the great, great granddaughter of the real Cinderella telling the two authors that what they and most consider a fairy tale was in fact real people. And of course the portrait painted by Leonardo.
..*.. TxMike ..*..
Make a choice, to take a chance, to make a difference.
In 'Cinderella' 2015 we hear Ella say she forgives her wicked stepmom and stepsisters, it goes along with the theme of kindness that runs through the story. So it doesn't really matter what happened to them.
And there is another major difference. 'Cinderella' 2015 is closer to a classic tale with the fairy godmother and the magic that creates a beautiful gown and that changes the pumpkin and the animals, then the reverting at midnight.
'Ever After' is all realistic and remember it begins and ends with the great, great granddaughter of the real Cinderella telling the two authors that what they and most consider a fairy tale was in fact real people. And of course the portrait painted by Leonardo.
..*.. TxMike ..*..
Make a choice, to take a chance, to make a difference.
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Danielle also forgave her stepmother and sister. The quern was going to send them away to be slaves. Danielle requests her not to do this and instead have them be treated the way she was. Danielle did not have bitterness or vengeance in her heart because she said, "After today I will forget you and never think of you again".
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Danielle did not have bitterness or vengeance in her heart because she said, "After today I will forget you and never think of you again".
That sounds pretty bitter to me
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If she were bitter, she would be resentful for years afterward. But she chose to move on with her life; she was finally free of her stepmother. That sounds like a pretty "high road" thing to say to someone who has treated you so cruelly.
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That sounds pretty bitter to me
I don't think that's bitterness. She was basically saying "I want to forgive you and I want to forget you. You won't have power over me anymore."
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Ever After, The Cinderella in this film was weak
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You call that forgiveness? She just changed punishments and we can only assume that having them treated the same way they treated Danielle was better than life in the Americas.
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You call that forgiveness? She just changed punishments and we can only assume that having them treated the same way they treated Danielle was better than life in the Americas.
Something was going to happen to the Baroness and Marguerite. You don't lie to royalty and just walk away. The Queen even says to choose her words wisely for they may be her last. Lying to royalty could carry a death sentence.
Danielle's mercy meant that her step-mother and step-sister lived, that they stayed in France, and the work they are assigned doesn't look like hard labor. They're laundry ladies. The other women working aren't dirty, look well-fed, and don't seem to be suffering. And what happens when their boss gets tired of them? She knocks them into the dye. The Baroness had Danielle flogged at one point.
At this point, their punishment is to no longer be the idle rich. They have to work.
Lizzie
To love another person is to see the face of God! - Les Miserables
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Any ideas on what their lives in the Americas would be?
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Being sent to the Americas would've been a death sentence.
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When Drew's Cinderella tells Angelica's stepmother that she will never think of her again, it gives me chills. That was SO well played. I would like it better just for that confrontation. The "I forgive you" was meaningless to me. The Ever After scene reminds me of my favorite version of Merlin, with Sam Neill, when he turns away and tells Mab that she's just not important anymore.
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If we ever meet, I will have to hug you! That is the best version of Merlin ever in my opinion. And I saw the parallel at once!
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Cinderella, though I really enjoyed Ever After, too!
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Ever After, of course! While this was a perfect remake of the original Disney movie, that one was too set in the time it was made. Cinderella has no backbone in it! In Ever After, she has a backbone, and the movie still has that lovely fairy tale feeling to it. Drew Barrymore is always good. And it was so funny! This one's attempt at humor fell so flat.
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While this was a perfect remake of the original Disney movie,
Positive or negative, I'd hardly say thataside from the underlying fairy tale, they're pretty different, actually.
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Both.
Though if we're comparing princes this one is far more likable and worthy of Ella than Henry ever was Danielle. I never liked Henry much.
Though if we're comparing princes this one is far more likable and worthy of Ella than Henry ever was Danielle. I never liked Henry much.
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Ever After. It's such a perfect movie. I didn't like this one at all.
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Two different films. Two different stories.
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I like Cinderella, but I don't like Ever After less because of the new movie.
By the way Dougray Scott was hot .
By the way Dougray Scott was hot .
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Oh, Ever After by a mile. The princess was a much stronger person in her own right, and you got to see the motivation of the stepsisters and stepmother better. Ever After is the best Cinderella story EVER for me.
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Definitely Ever After.
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Both very different films, Ever After was grounded in realism whereas this is a fairy tale. I usually prefer fairy tales and fantasies than attempts to make classic stories realistic as they often end up becoming very bland, boring, and lifeless. I'm thinking of King Arthur's story in Excalibur vs King Arthur, the magical legendary mythical nature of the first is incomparable to the lifeless thing that was the 2nd. But Ever After is different, it has it's only magical quality in a way, and the chemistry between Drew Barrymore and Dougray Scott is more palpable. So I prefer Ever After though this is good too.
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I have yet to dislike a version of Cinderella. Even A Cinderella Story with Hillary Duff had its moments. But Ever After is the unrivalled best version of Cinderella for me. It isn't even close.
Lizzie
To love another person is to see the face of God! - Les Miserables
Lizzie
To love another person is to see the face of God! - Les Miserables
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Ever After is a clear winner for me (backstory with DeVinci, winged gown) but I was surprisingly taken with this version as well.
I thought the costumes and effects were captivating. I was not attracted to the Prince, but found the acting excellent.
I thought the costumes and effects were captivating. I was not attracted to the Prince, but found the acting excellent.
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