Riverdale : Pedophile in Riverdale

Not sure when it became acceptable for an adult to have sex with minors.i know this is fictional but still, Jared from subway is considered vile and repugnant, but an underage archie having sex with a teacher is ok? Not the best message to send imo

An adult having sex with a teenager is not pedophilia. An adult or teenager having sex with a prepubescent child is.

Can't deny that it's rape though.

There is no Flash without Iris West.

Pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. Archie is far from prepubescent. This would be a case of statutory rape because by law he's not old enough to give consent.


"My name is Pumpkin_Masher and I approve this message."

Only pedos try to deny that it's pedophilia if it's a teen. I only hear pedos making this dumb argument all the time.

A teacher can't sleep with a damned teen. Get over it. No amount of attempting to explain it away with make it any less nasty or illegal.

I just saw a national news story about a teacher who went to prison for sleeping with a 15 year old BOY. Nasty.

It's not an excuse. It's what the word means.

An adult who goes only after teens is an ephebophile.

Understanding the words you use is not explaining away actions.

Get a clue and stop making your ignorance everyone else's problem.

All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.

It's not an argument, it's law!
You're just wrong because you don't know you're own laws nor the definition of pedophile.

FACT: He'd have to be prepubescent for it to be pedophilia. (Usually under 13)

FACT: He'd have to be under 16 for it to be statutory rape. (He might be, but unlikely because you have to be 16 to work on a construction site)

FACT: It's also statutory rape if he's under 18 AND the person he's having sex with is in a position of authority over him. (As a teacher, that would be the case, but because it was summer vacation she had no authority over him)

Your problem is that you find the whole thing distasteful and that's fine; but just say that, don't make up stuff and spout it as fact to try to justify your distaste.
You don't need to justify your personal opinions.

It doesn't make someone (me) a pedophile just because we are educated before we start spouting ignorant garbage on a message board.

As a parent of a teenager, we have to know this stuff to protect our kids.

FYI, I lost my virginity at 14 to two 19 year old girls.
THAT was statutory rape; or as I call it FRIGGIN' AWESOME!!

Statutory rape age depends on the state, if it's California or 9 other states it's under 18 not 16. Another 7 states it's under 17. Look it up you creeper.

I'm aware that it changes for a few states, in the US, but the rest of the world is 16, and many states in the US.

I didn't think it worth mentioning the .02% of the planet that doesn't follow this rule.

And NO, creepy is the few Arabic countries where age of consent is 9.
Was 12 in Vatican City but I think they recently raised it to 13 or 14.

That's not surprising. I suspect The Vatican inherited this from old ROman City Law. In Utah, for example, the Age Of COncent was 14 until about a Decade ago, and in the not-too-distant past the Age Of COncent in most of the US was about 12-15 range.


I don't even think there was a Federal Age Of COncent except in specified Federal territories, each setting its own policies.



In Europe, the Age Of COncent was signigfiganly lower before medical and cultural developments reshaped us into thinkign it ought to be older.


SOmepalces in Europe still have on the books a signifigantly lower Age Of COncent, though I think EU Law regulrised it to 16 for all member States.

I think 13 or 14 is more reasonable. 16 is too old. 18 is ridiculous. Some people at 16 look in his or her 20's.

LAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

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I heard Armand Assante from Judge Dredd when I saw that.

I am so glad that the IMDB boards are being shut down for good. Your very narrow world view is one reason why.

Woohoo!
Now that human opinions have been removed
You get to be the dumbest retard EVER.

I don't think it is nasty. DEEPLY unprofessional, But he's hardly a 12 year old.

The difference is only a few years. Were it a 22 year old and an 18 year old, no one would really bat an eyelid. Or a 24 and a 20 year old.

Sure, there IS absolutely a fine line, but I think 16 is an acceptable age to give consent.

Although I'd probably not be saying that if it was my child involved! :D

And yes, it's deeply DEEPLY unprofessional

They had sex during the summer from him being a freshman to a sophmore. yes that is pedophiliaand if we want to go furtherit is also considered a form of rape..

Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
prepubescent: a person who has not yet reached puberty.
Archie has definitely reached puberty, ergo Grundy is not a pedophile.

You obviously have no idea what a pedophile is, or what rape is.
Pedophilia is a 'sexual attraction' to pre-pubescent children. Usually 13 and under. Having sex with one isn't even part of it.
Rape is sex without consent.
Statutory rape is sex with someone legally deemed too young to give consent.

It is completely legal almost everywhere in the world (even the US) to have sex with anyone 16 or older.

The only law that could be considered broken here, is that it's illegal to have sex with a 16 year old if you are in a position of power over them.
Ie. Parental figure, boss, teacher, scout leader, priest etc.
But because it was summer vacation, it could be a bit of a grey area in this case.

But make no mistake.
IT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR A 90 YEAR OLD MAN TO BANG A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL.

It's just gross and creepy.
ps, I slept with my high school librarian. ?

But, is Archie 16?

That we don't know for sure; but in Canada, you have to be 16 to work on or even enter a construction site. (I've had to throw a homeowner off her own property because she brought her baby)
I'm not sure if it's the same in the US; assuming Riverdale is in the US.

I was 16 the summer before grade 10; and they were at least grade 10 because he was on the football team the year before.

Plus, they don't look like any 15 year olds I've ever met. They look in their 20's. :)

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I was 16 the summer before grade 10

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So you failed a grade?



Hate-watching says more about the viewer than it does about the show.

No never; most everyone was that age, depending on their birthday that is.

Okay, I don't know what part of Canada you went to school in but in Southern Ontario most kids start grade 10 when they're 15.

But like I said, I don't know where you went to school, so I'll take your word for it.

Hate-watching says more about the viewer than it does about the show.

Yes, in Ontario you start grade ten at either fourteen or fifteen, unless you failed or skipped a grade.
But either way, this is not pedophilia. But it not being pedophilia doesn't mean people are cool with it (not directed at you specifically, btw.)

You have made some really good points. And I agree, I think Archie is definitely 16

Going on 20! :P

Uh, no it is not. Do you even know what a pedophile means? Because no where in the show, is pedophilia shown.

Well i dont know how old you guys were as a freshman going on to sophomore. but i was 14, so however you guys want to call it to feel better about yourself, 14 is still too young for a 20 something to have sex withespecially a teacherjust ask mary kay Laturno or however you spell her name.. so go ahead and have sex with 14 year old boys.say hi to Jared for me

That wasn't the argument we were making. You were claiming pedophilia. It wasn't, whether he was fourteen, fifteen or sixteen. Hell even thirteen.

While there were a few kids that were 14 at the start of Sophomore year, most of us were 15 at that point.


"My name is Pumpkin_Masher and I approve this message."

I don't think anyone is arguing that what she did is ok. 14 is definetly too young for a 20 something person. But it's not pedophilia if that 14 year old has reached puberty.
That has nothing to do with opinion, that's a fact, it's the very definition of pedophilia.

This so reminds me of the first season of Dawson's Creek. Same thing happened.

In the kingdom of the blind, you're the village idiot.

When did the show tell us it was ok ?

In fact both Archie (who looks about 20) and the teacher who looks about 30+ are both trying to hide the relationship.

If television shows are only going to broadcast what is super duper acceptable it would be unwatchable.

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This so reminds me of the first season of Dawson's Creek. Same thing happened.

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The shows have the same producer. I have heard Riverdale described as a mashup between Twin Peaks and Dawson's Creek.

Look how defensive all the pedos in this thread got trying to spew that if you went through puberty it's not pedophilia. They love their teens and know all the definitions like they're already on trial.

So disgusting.

Your ignorance is disgusting.

All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.

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Look how defensive all the pedos in this thread got trying to spew that if you went through puberty it's not pedophilia. They love their teens and know all the definitions like they're already on trial.

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By God you're a moron! So we know the English language and you want to call people out on semantics? Get over yourself. One could say that your own anger at this thread is actually denial of a trait in yourself that you're disgusted about yet too scared to admit to? Isn't that the way it often works? He who shouts foul the loudest if often the guilty party. You're in good company here Admit it, you'd like a little teen action yourself wouldn't you? You spank the monkey over the teen mags you buy for that daughter you haven't got don't you? You were so disgusted by Betty in her bra that you had to watch it twice to make sure you really saw it?

You're in good company, free yourself, admit to it. "I like teens" is all you have to say and you're free. Hey, my last g/f was 18 years my junior. It's all cool. Admit and free yourself RidiculousPasta.
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"Nulla injuria est, quae in volentem fiat"

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Look how defensive all the pedos in this thread got trying to spew that if you went through puberty it's not pedophilia. They love their teens and know all the definitions like they're already on trial.

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Actually it's just an english word and it's meaning is well within range of what would be considered general knowledge. How you didn't know the meaning of the word is what I find disgusting. How can education have failed you so? You have to be borderline retarded not to know what the word means.

Not a paedophile by definition, which is someone attracted on an ongoing basis to prepubescent kids.

It's criminal for Grundy, for good reason. Even if it wasn't, it would be beyond unprofessional. Even a college prof with a student the same age would be unprofessional.

But it's not being put forward as okay. They're both hiding it and, more, they're apparently hiding evidence involving a murder as a result.

All roads lead to truth if you're willing to travel honestly.

That's not pedophilia. Pedophilia is being attracted to/boinking PREPUBESCENT children. As in kids that have not gone through puberty yet (more or less 12 and under).

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it is also considered a form of rape

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This is the only thing you've said that's been somewhat correct. The form of rape is by law statutory rape, which generally isn't punished as hard as typical sexual assault. You're literally using the dictionary definition of "pedophile" wrong.


16+ year olds have basically fully matured physically and sexually speaking. Which is kind of why boys at that age try at all costs to get laid as much as possible and then brag about it.

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Only pedos try to deny that it's pedophilia if it's a teen.

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They are defending it because it's false and you're wrong, as mentioned above and below. Don't be daft.

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I only hear pedos making this dumb argument all the time.

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The only one making a dumb argument is you. Since you're arguing against defined terms, not only the definition on the law books but the definition in the dictionary. Dictionary definition + Definition defined by the law > your opinion on what is.


Copy+pasted from merriam-webster dictionary.

Definition of prepubescent: of, relating to, being in, or occurring in the period of development immediately preceding puberty

Definition of pedophilia: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object; specifically : a psychological disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child

Notice the bold words? A late teenager is not prepubescent thus it's not pedophilia.

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A teacher can't sleep with a damned teen. Get over it. No amount of attempting to explain it away with make it any less nasty or illegal.

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No one is saying they can and no one is saying it's not illegal. You pulled a fallacy, congrats. That is considered statutory rape, not pedophilia. It's considered statutory rape because one person is in a position of power, whilst the other isn't. Even though the teenager obviously consented.

People correcting your ignorance and stupidity =/= agreeing with it, supporting pedophilia, supporting sleeping with students or whatever moronic claim you come up with.

That's not pedophilia it's ephebophilia. I'm tried of this tired ass trope. TPTB always think it's okay since the underaged character is really a 40 year old man.

Clark's destiny = Superman, LL &LL.

Tell me that I am not reading comments by some people trying to defend a teacher who is taking advantage of her student. I cannot possibly reading people defending her / it. You guys are amazing. All caught up in semantics, well let's call a spade a spade. What she is doing is criminal, hebephilia is just as bad as paedophilia, different name same sick mentality from someone of power.

I can only imagine if certain details were different, comments from those defending this story will persecute the teacher in an instant.

It is not just semantics. And if you seriously believe that someone who has sex with a ten year old is no worse than someone who has sex with a fifteen year old then there is something wrong with you.

It's weird, but I don't remember this much hate when Pacey & Mrs. Jacobs, had an affair in Dawson's Creek. And she was way older. Are people backwarded, these days?

The internet wasn't as big a deal back then. It was around but just barely.

Good times

It's much more than just the internet, although that may be an assisting vehicle to the self righteous and SJWs. Things have gotten overbearingly politically correct in a couple decades. Could you remotely imagine Pretty Baby, even coming out today? lol. Even 12 And Holding where Jeremy Renner gets kissed by a randy 12 year old girl wouldn't
make it out a alive today

"what is your major malfunction numbnuts?!!"

How did you get the impression that it is okay? If anything, the show plays up that the relationship is inappropriate as Archie is a minor and Mrs. Grundy is cheating on her husband.

The whole point of the forbidden relationship is that Archie and Mrs. Grundy will have to reveal its existence if they plan on offering up the information they have on the murder.

It's not OK and I don't think the show is saying it is OK. The teacher knows it is wrong and said it should have never happened. There was nothing in the premiere that remotely said it was ok.