Denial : Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuzQY1klxzo

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Well, what do you know. An "alt-right" (read: neo-fascist) internet "radio" site has a well-known Holocaust denier on, and surprise! he denies the Holocaust.

And the poster knows he can't defend it, so it's the passive-aggressive paste-link-and-run.

Just more evidence that Holocaust denial, for all of its efforts to present itself as academically objective and intellectually sustainable, is really just a toy of the sieg-heil droolboys.

@%<

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

You are just another propagandist, being paid to counter the facts of many people from around the world, who are finding out the real facts.

So, David Cole, who is also Jewish, is a liar than?for the past twenty five plus years of investigation, that even he received has to go to ground because of death threats by extreme Jewish mafia.

Mate!, the lie game is almost up!

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You are just another propagandist, being paid to counter the facts of many people from around the world, who are finding out the real facts.

Yeah, that's what you losers have to tell yourself. I've never been paid a dime for showing how crazystupid Holocaust denial is, and how crazystupid people like you are for buying into it.

So, David Cole, who is also Jewish, is a liar than?

I always find it hilarious that the wackballs who declare that the Holocaust is all a big Jewish scam, in which literally millions of Jews participated by pretending to be dead, are suddenly: "David Cole can't be a liar he's Jewish!"

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

For a crime to be proven you need forensic evidence. Witness testimony from people who profit from said witness testimony and confessions proveably induced under torture are inadmissible in court. Forensic evidence trumps all others.

There is zero forensic proof of the jewish holocaust.

FACT.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Another double post. You're not the quite sharpest cheddar in the cheese shop, are you.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS


FACT.

You keep using that word, but I think you don't know what it means.

Remember the last time you claimed that nazis were tortured into confessing their role in the holocuast? But you thought you could pass off unconfirmed claims of torture in another trial? You thought your Roden crap was something good; just made you look like a dipstick, again.

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There is zero forensic proof of the jewish holocaust.


Where's the "forensic evidence" or any hard, documentary evidence for that matter for the existence of your alleged massive conspiracy of forgers, instructors and torturers (quote: "lolohoax")?

Any memos? Any written orders? Any correspondence? Any equivalent to a Fhrerbefehl?

Or at least some "unreliable" eyewitnesses, for example some Nazi whistleblowers explaining the exact details of this conspiracy, preferably with corroborating evidence?

Exactly. It simply does not exist.

All you guys do all day long is claiming that "the official story cannot be true because of this and that". Perceived inconsistencies that only exist in your ideologically conditioned minds most of the time, but no hard facts. Not even a fraction of the evidence that does exist in support of the factuality of the Shoah.

It's somehow ironic how deniers doubt the plausibility of the history of the Shoah all the time, yet don't realize that their implied conspiracy theory has not a shred of plausibility at all.

The "Hoax" where's the evidence?
http://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/~jamie/the-hoax.shtml

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Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

For a crime to be proven you need forensic evidence. Witness testimony from people who profit from said witness testimony and confessions provably induced under torture are inadmissible in court. Forensic evidence trumps all others.

There is zero forensic proof of the jewish holocaust.

FACT.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS


For a crime to be proven you need forensic evidence.

Nope. Still, it's hilarious to see you guys try to sound all lawyer-like.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Are confessions now admittedly acquired under torture at Nuremberg admissible?

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Nuremburg was a real trial with real defenses and real acquittals. Sorry if that goes against your defense of the Nazis.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Question still stands. Is torturing defendants against all international conventions???

A simple yes or no will suffice.

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Question still stands.

Just like all the questions of mine that you've dodged in your half-assed imitation of a self-appointed prosecuting attorney, you poor thing you.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Haha Mr Tel Aviv your little trial you claim is evidence used vicious torture to obtain confessions entirely invalidating any convictions therefore completely invalidating the holocaust as a serious historical event. It doesn't even merit any discussion Mr Tel Aviv.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Michael Hoffman wrote a book about the Talmud didn't he. Doesn't the jewish religious book that trumps the torah declare that sex with prepubescent children is perfectly legal??

Rhetorical question because of course it does.

Re: Red Ice Live - Michael Hoffman on "Denial propaganda BS

Irving "did make some mistakes" because he's "not perfect"?

From Richard J. Evans, Lying About Hitler:


MR. IRVING: Do you say that I misinterpreted and distorted them [historical documents] deliberately? Is that your contention?

PROF. EVANS: Yes, that is my contention.You know there is a difference between, as it were, negligence, which is random in its effects, i.e. if you are simply a sloppy or bad historian, the mistakes you make will be all over the place. They will not actually support any particular point of view. On the other hand, if all the mistakes are in the same direction in the support of a particular thesis, then I do not think that is mere negligence. I think that is a deliberate manipulation and deception.

p.205



Historians assumed that the work of fellow-historians, or those who purported to be fellow-historians, as reliable in its footnoting, in its translations and summaries of documents, and in its treatment of the evidence at basic level. They might make mistakes and errors of fact, but they did not generally deliberately manipulate and distort documents, suppress evidence that ran counter to their interpretations, willfully mistranslate documents in a foreign language, consciously use unreliable or discredited testimony when it suited their purpose, falsify historical statistics, or apply one standard of criticism to sources that undermined their views and another to those that supported them.

p.33


Isn't it "strange", that with each "mistake" Irving seems to acquit either Hitler, the Nazis or the Germans in general?

This distortion of the historical record by Irving is thoroughly documented since the trial, see aforementioned book for a good overview, or the complete online archive of the verdict [http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2000/115.html]. The evidence of this distortion is laid open for everyone to see. Irving's books are freely available and can be compared with the primary source files. There is one of the more outrageous examples of Irving's lying where he said that Hitler ordered on November 30, 1941 "that there was to be 'no liquidation' of the Jews". His evidence is an entry of 4 lines in Himmler's phone log, from a phone call with Heydrich. What this entry actually says is:

Arrest of Dr Jekelius
Supposed son of Molotov.
Jew-transport from Berlin.
no liquidation.

(see facsimile of the original document here: https://littlegreyrabbit.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/himmler_telephone.jpg)

It should be crystal clear that this entry refers to only one transport of Jews. Even more, that the "no liquidation" possibly only referred to one single person. There's no evidence whatsoever that Himmler got instructions from Hitler before this phone call. Irving somehow construes this to apply to all Jews, probably because of his unshakable compulsion to be apologetic for Hitler, no matter what.

All of Hoffman's talk about the unrealistic, unfavorable choice of actors, his portrayal of deniers as victims of a huge conspiracy, is totally irrelevant, as the documentary evidence for Irving's lying is massive, it's openly available, and it already was long before this movie was made. Yes, there is a reason why Irving's reputation has been destroyed. No, it's not because of some ominous monolithic conspiracy which is out to get him. It's because of his blatant and deliberate lying, which has been neatly documented.

Hoffman takes offense being called a denier, yet he mockingly talks about the "church of Holocaustianity, seemingly suggesting the history of the Shoah is only a matter of faith, i.e. that there is no evidence to support the factuality of the Shoah. Which would be another huge lie of course.
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