Denial : Why is holocaust a big deal?

I think this is 1000000th movie based on holocaust. I don't understand what's the big deal?

Since the origin of the human civilization, there has been millions (if not trillions) of holocausts, mass genocides of certain group of people/race/religion. Then why is it that the Jewish holocaust *beep* has to be continued till the end of time?

Not so in distant past, there has been armenian genocide, native american genocide, mongol rampage, muslim invasion throughout asia, bengal genocide and
satan knows how many. Not so in distant past. In recorded time.

But Jewish holocaust is just most important of them all. May I ask why? Cuz they are jews? LOL. I don't hate jews but overly emphasizing the holocaust is just bitter in the long run. It's not like only Jews are considered as human beings.

People fight, people fight, people kill each other and people forget. It's a fact of life and we should accept the fact and move on.



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The BOSS of this place

I have no words for your ignorance of history.

Because this happened to civilized people that you can somewhat identify with. Not some strange place far off that you never heard of. These were next door neighbors.
It can happen to you.

We must never forget.

Probably 'cause there's still people alive today who lived through it or knew someone who did or died because of it, unlike those other genocides you mention. There are too far removed from our time.

Never ending aid, political leverage and concessions is why it's a big deal.

Because we must never ever ever ever EVER forget.

Babuandbabu, my friend, you have to understand, these Ashkenazi Jews, only see themselves as another race who should have everything to themselves.
So as they are rumbled, the anti semites card is played.

From what I notice over the years, too many Europeans, go quiet like a mice, when these lot make noise.

If people really wants to know the facts of this hoax, go and investigate the work
of David Cole, who's Jewish. He had to change his name to David Stein, because of death threats by the Jewish cabal.
We as people, do have a choice, to break free from this BIG lie once and for all.

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Babuandbabu, my friend, you have to understand, these Ashkenazi Jews, only see themselves as another race who should have everything to themselves.
So as they are rumbled, the anti semites card is played.

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It takes a special kind of stoopid to follow a slander of Jews with "and then they play the anti-semitism card" as if you hadn't just given an enormous anti-Semitic belch yourself.

Get over yourself. I'm going to set you a task. I am willing to donate 1,000 to any jewish charity of your choosing if you can provide me with.

Any forensic evidence for not six million, not 3 million but any jew being gassed by zyclonB in a homicidal Nazi gas chamber.

I want forensic proof of one jew being gassed.

One.

Regards
Me.

P.S For such an immense genocidal mass murder program to have happened and basically left no forensic evidence is mind boggling.

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Get over yourself.

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Says the man who wants to appoint himself as a one-man panel to determine whether the Holocaust happened.

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I'm going to set you a task.

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Now would be an excellent time for you to go fork yourself. By the way, here's a documentary starring a leading Holocaust denier.

Six gazillion gas chamber victims and not a single bit of forensic evidence to prove it. Do you know how difficult it is to dispose of a body. Do you know how tough modern crematoriums find it to dispose of a single corpse considering we are up to 80% water.

Still waiting for the forensics. Six million. One piece of evidence. I challenge you.

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Six gazillion gas chamber victims and not a single bit of forensic evidence to prove it.

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You haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about, do you. You're doing nothing but re-blabbing the same old denier blabbing points long, long ago shown to be crap. And you're looking like quite an idiot doing it.

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Still waiting for the forensics.

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Go fork yourself. Better yet, go educate yourself. But if that doesn't work, you can always go back to forking yourself.

Seven months of constant Denial movie posts. How curious. That first Ayn Rand post. Is that supposed to fool us you're not a tel aviv basket case paid by the hour.

Not much of a profession dude is it lol.

Still waiting on that forensic. Chequebook itching to get written. Come on you're a jew so you must love the idea of screwing another goy

Oh yawn. The "yore a pade agent of Tel-Aviv" crap. Is that really the best you can come up with? And if so, is it maybe traceable to trace elements in the groundwater in your county?

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You're a jewbot.

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And into ignore you go. Scratch a Holocaust denier, find an anti-Semite.

Zort, it's even more obvious what Kid's motivation is when you do a cursory examination of his posting history.

He's a huge fan of Mel Gibson (surprised?) and this little gem of his actually comes from a thread on one of Mel's films in which he is defending his "right" to be a bigot:

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The essential truth is this. The terms racism, liberalism, feminism, marxism, socialism etc etc. They're all created to destroy morality. It is the aim of zionism to destroy all that is good in society. That includes family, nation and the cultural identity of nations. These terms are all zionistic in origin. They hate christianity above all religions as detailed in the jewish book the talmud which is what zionists hold above all other religious tomes including the old testament. They view having sex with children under 11 as perfectly natural. As we progress into the zionistic luciferian hellhole you will see an attempt to make paedophilia lawful. Gay marriage is but a step on the road. As the Christian church implodes over gay marriage the zionists will try to take full advantage and push for acceptance of paedophilia. They will do this with the full support of the psychiatric profession.

Purely in terms of the 'racism.' Races will always by nature try to gain dominance of their own so multiculturalism (another zionist invention) is doomed to failure, destruction and slaughter. As soon as economic conditions have reached their destination (yes the zionists want the world to implode so they can ferment race wars) all hell will break loose and all by design. Nations and continets should retain their racial hegemony. If that happened racism would not be an issue. Trading partners fine

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He checks off all the classic boxes - the Kevin MacDonald faux-academic explanations of Zionism as some form of cultural racism, the nonsensical claims about Jewish ritual and the Talmud, along with a tinge of that oh so British branch of Fascism founded by Oswald Mosley.

Well, again, this is the great Jekyll-Hyde problem of the Holocaust denial movement. They've been trying for fifty years now to reshape their public image, portraying themselves as high-minded scholars and intellects, trying to distance themselves from their well-documented origins as crap anti-Semitic wackadoodles. But they've failed to get any traction on it, because there are too many Kid Charlemagnes in the movement who can't restrain their raw anti-Semitic nature.

The movement's oh-so-carefully constructed mask always slips, and it inevitably does so because it's trying to appeal to the very people the Kid Charlemagnes who guarantee their failure.

Yep I stand by all of that and hear this.

It's going mainstream. Peeps are waking up and when it gets past that overton window

Oh my.

Wow dig the dumb Christian zionist.

You are aware it's jews pushing the multicult on all white nations aren't you. They have literally created this monster.

The Great Jew Behold!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT!!!

As previous post on this thread has said, show me the evidence, and I'll write you a check.
(1). There has been academic research done on the soil, to show if there were any disturbance and there was none. Videos you will find on youtube.
(2) It was the allies and the soviet union that built the gas chambers to frame Germany.

(3) How could a so called gas chamber has a door with glass windows?, figure it out.
(4) Why wont the authorities allow researchers to take samples of the blue stuff from the walls for analysing. NOT allowed.
(5) The Nazi needed a workforce to build weapons, that why there were labour camps.
(6) Those who suppose to have died in the camps, died of diseases being spread throughout the place, that is why Zyklon B, were used to kill of the infections. I must say, even hospitals back then had to use it.
(7) Adolf Hitler and many soldiers/ officers were in part jewish or full jew.

My IMDB friend, there was a Holocaust, 60+ millions people who were civilians and those who fought in the war, you ashkenazi zionist just forget that part of history.

One more thing, It was the jews that killed more people under the Soviet Union, then Nazi Germany.
Lenin,(Jew) killed 60+ million, Stalin, (Jew) killed 120+ millions and many more. Who were the communist leadersJEWS

CASE CLOSED.


If Jews were so nice and innocent, why do we have Rothchilds, Rockefellers, George Soros, etc etc, bringing havoc on this planet?

ISRAEL, another holocaust. Genocide on the Palestinian people with the REAL iew's from Black Africa.

@Big_AL-96, I'm glad you find it funny. Are you still connected to The Matrix?

Thinking about these things, folks like yourself are too scared to ask real hard facts regarding the suppose Holocaust and what you and others fail to realize, the population of the world, are waking up to fact that this sob story is heading down the toilet.

No longer, people will not be afraid to investigate this and determine, it was a mass fraud. Even you are cannot bring yourself that 60+ millions who lost their precious lives on all sides.
Do not make out that the 60+ million lives are not worth anything. Who has benefited most, still this day? you already know the answer.

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If I were you I'd crawl away now. Your first post was so full of nonsense you're really not someone I can take seriously. A sandwich short of a picnic is a saying we use here.

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There's always a certain comic element of the Emperor's New Clothes when Holocaust deniers try to look rational. They're oh so convinced the facts are on their side until they actually have to look at the facts. Then you see comedy gold.

Lol what I find funny, is that let's just say these "deniers" miraculously happen to be right that not one person "was gassed to death for no reason" (which is an absolutely ridiculous claim at that), or that the number is "greatly exaggerated".

What the F do they think happened at these camps anyway?!?! Lol I mean in their fantasy world, they make it seem like these camps were awesome places to live, nothing evil ever happened there, and people could just come and go as they please. Which even they know couldn't be further from the truth.

Obviously trying to rationalize logic with an irrational and illogical people, is a pointless endeavor. But it just seems like a pointless argument. Even if the Holocaust was "greatly exaggerated" the amount of evil that still happened at those camps should never be defended in any way, shape, or form unless, ya know, you're a complete racist douche

It's obvious you don't much like Jews, or you wouldn't be so darned angry about recognition of mass murder. The holocaust is covered in more movies than other genocides for several reasons:
- it happened in the last 100 years
- it is thoroughly documented
- it was based on systematic promotion of an idiology that was bigoted and was accepted by many millions of people who either actively participated in the killing or will willing accomplices; and
- people involved lived into the modern filmmaking era and some lived in the US and Europe, where people identified enough with the victims to care (unlike you).

Your statements that we should move on and that it's a fact of life are ridiculous reductions of a horrific and heinous crime to an everyday nuisance. Mass murder based on ideologies of hate are never a mere nuisance and not something we should get over. We need to confront them and prevent them from happening.

My real name is Jeff

But it never happened.

There's no business like Shoah business.

In fact most of the people writing and lecturing about the holocaust do not make any money from that - it often costs them money to do it, but they do it anyway. And to claim that it is immoral to try to educate people about the holocaust is ridiculous, as there is a lot of false information being disseminated that needs to be exposed and refuted by the facts.

If you are opposed to the facts being revealed and discussed, what does that make you? I think you know what you are.

My real name is Jeff

Paradoxically, until the rise of the internet, it was the Holocaust deniers who were in it for the money. David Irving's infamous failure to do due diligence on Leuchter's fatuous Auschwitz report had a simple reason behind it: he wanted to sell copies of it to his minions. Cole made his stupid "documentary" because he wanted to sell copies on VHS cassette. And so on.

But with the coming of the internet, the bottom dropped out of Holocaust denial as a potential money maker why pay for what you can get free?

And that's why there haven't been any major new figures in the movement for almost twenty years: there's no money in it anymore.

Were hymies turned into soap lampshades and shrunken heads??

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Were hymies turned into soap lampshades and shrunken heads??

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Are you ever going to grow up and offer something reasonably intelligent?

My real name is Jeff

Oh, no kidding, he's calling Jews "hymies"?

Every time he does, it's just more evidence of the fundamentally anti-Semitic nature of the Holocaust denial movement.

Can you answer. It is a perfectly valid question.

So I repeat. Were jews turned into shrunken heads, soap and lampshades as the lolohoax industry has been claiming for decades so much it has entered the public consciousness as fact. Did it happen.

Also Nuremberg trials claim there was a cage with a bear and a cage with an eagle where recalcitrant jews were placed.

Nuremberg also claimed there were homicidal steam rooms. Also jew witnesses to the lolohoax claim jew blood would literally fountain out of the ground. Did this happen?

Also at Treblinka where the Germans dug up hundreds of thousands of buried jews and set fire to them in huge funeral pyres. Where is the ground penetrating radar images to prove ground disturbance? I'll let you into a little non secret. There isn't any. Obviously is this happened with modern technology it would be piss easy to prove. But you can't. Because Treblinka was a transit camp as numerous videos of jews that stopped there prove.

Your post above reads like a typical denier website - full of claims that are simply false.

There were household items made of the skin of Jewish people, as a matter of fact, but mostly the bodies were cremated, then the remains buried. And there is evidence of ground disturbance at the sites of the camps - even though the Nazis tried very hard to cover up and destroy the evidence of the genocide. Studies done as late as the 1970's found remnants of the poison gas in the soil. Portions of the crematoria remain today, even though the Nazis tried to destroy those structures.

The transcripts of the Nuremberg trials, and some of the documentary evidence, are available through links on the Library of Congress website. Anyone with a shred of decency and integrity can find the evidence for the mass murders there, as well as in many published books documenting the genocide in detail, with citations to primary sources. These books are available in libraries and at retail sites such as Amazon.com.

So, instead of repeating nonsense you find on anti-Jewish websites, why don't you look at peer-reviewed research and reporting by scholars and interviews of the people who were actually there during the time of the genocide? If you don't look at reliable sources, that speaks to your own character and denial of reality - not to the truth of the holocaust.

My real name is Jeff

What???

Where are the household items made from jews? Where?

Where is evidence of mass ground disturbance at treblinka?

Where are the scientific studies proving zyclonb in soil?

There were crematoria. Yes there were. Dead inmates were cremated in there.

LMAO

Are you even a sentient being?

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Where are the household items made from jews? Where?

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The U.S. Senate investigation Report on the holocaust concluded that human skin was tanned at one camp, at least, and witnesses (including U.S. soldiers) said they saw items made from human skin obtained at camps.

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Where is evidence of mass ground disturbance at treblinka?

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See, e.g., Treblinka: Revealing the Hidden Graves of the Holocaust, BBC Magazine, January 23, 2012.

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Where are the scientific studies proving zyclonb in soil?

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Naturally, gas dissipates very rapidly in soil, as elsewhere, so finding no trace now doesn't mean there was no trace of the gas in the soil decades ago, immediately after it was used. Nevertheless, there have been several soil studies done in the last several decades showing remnants of the gas in the soil. One such study was done by Jean-Claude Pressac in an effort to disprove that the gassings took place. At the end of his study, Pressac changed his mind - concluding that the evidence that mass gassings took place is irrefutable.

More recently, between 2010 and 2012 a team of British scientists using GPS technology and other scientific techniques uncovered plenty of new evidence that the Treblinka camp was a mass killing center. That is of course added to the eyewitness accounts of camp survivors, guards, and administrators that are a matter of public record, as well as all of the photos and film, and the records mentioning the gassings. They even found remnants of the holes in the chambers used to deposit the gas - holes which were shown not to be caused by the demolition of the site by Nazis trying to hide the evidence from the investigators.

The Institute of Forensic Research in Krakow did a study of Auschwitz-Birkenau using forensics that clearly showed that poison gas was used there on a massive scale, even though the Nazis had dismantled the gas chambers and crematoria, and tried to cover up the evidence. The remains of the chemicals used in the gas were still in the soil in large amounts.

The Nazis went to great lengths to destroy the buildings used in the genocide, but some portions of the crematoria remain. One door to a gas chamber that still exists is discolored blue from the reaction of iron in the door to the gas.

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There were crematoria. Yes there were. Dead inmates were cremated in there.

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There are thousands of pages of documents, created by the Nazis and their accomplices, and the eyewitness testimony of many people showing that live people were gassed at the camps. There are also many photographs and videos. All were authenticated by people familiar with the camps. Lying about this evidence now is either delusional, bigoted, or both.

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LMAO

Are you even a sentient being?

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I am a sentient being, yes. I also have feelings and a good understanding of morality and history. I can't say the same for you.


My real name is Jeff

Poppycock!, who believes the BBC.the great house of lies and mass propaganda.

As Adolf Hitler, who is half Jewish on his mother's side said, "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed"

If you think that the allies are saints, they are not. Them and the Soviet Union , went out to great length to destroy Germany. To this day, documents from the war, is still classified.

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Poppycock!, who believes the BBC.the great house of lies and mass propaganda.

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The BBC is more credible than you - because they gave their sources in the article. You did not. The reason you didn't give your sources is that they are not reliable and their claims are not based on primary sources.

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As Adolf Hitler, who is half Jewish on his mother's side said, "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed"

If you think that the allies are saints, they are not. Them and the Soviet Union , went out to great length to destroy Germany. To this day, documents from the war, is still classified.

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None of the above has any bearing on whether there is evidence to prove that the genocide took place. There is plenty of evidence, however, easily accessible to honest people willing to look at it. For example the following four sources are available at the Library of Congress website, and you can open the links to the documents and see the evidence for yourself:

Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal, Nuremberg (Official Proceedings);

Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression (documentary evidence);

Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuremberg Military Tribunals Under Control Council Law No. 10 (condensed record of proceedings); and

Final Report to the Secretary of the Army on the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials Under Control Council Law No. 10.

https://www.loc.gov

A source of shorthand notes from a court reporter at the trials -available at libraries worldwide:

Gallagher, Charles J., Nuremberg Trial Collection, 1945-1950.



My real name is Jeff

*beep* and supposition and unsupported unverified claims.

Regarding Treblinka there's a documentary film detailing how the archaeological dig there was absolute cobblers. The stupid bitch tart found a tile with a star of David and claimed it was evidence of the gas chamber. It was later proven to be the makers mark of a local tilemaker. They couldn't find any evidence of graves at the main sight so dug near a local cemetery and extrapolated that to mean it was evidence of jew bones. She even started crying when she found a jaw bone. It was one of the most hilariously slanted unscientific pieces of *beep* I have ever seen.

Why don't you tell us the source of this documentary, and how it would refute the millions of pages of primary source documents , interviews of people who witnessed the murders, and independent investigations done over the years? There's a whole industry devoted to holocaust denial now - they continue to sell hate and lies, but have never disproved the fact that the genocide occurred.

My real name is Jeff