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iBig Brother 11: Grand Casino {Jury Phase}


iBig Brother 11: Grand Casino 🃏
Host: Iraheto
Co-Host: TomcatMurr
Co-Host: CherrySnow

Forum: http://ibigbrother.forumotion.com/

A whole new batch of houseguests battle it out in one of the wildest Big Brother seasons ever with a new twist that will change up the game like never before. Over the course of a month one by one, the houseguests will be sent packing but only one lucky houseguest will walk away with the title of iBig Brother champion.

brady911
bria2005
doLLish
DubyaCeeDubya
EnnJaySee
HarleyStodden
jasmineporter12
justinfrando
kyogre123
mindthinkr
shred-com
stonekeeper_ever
wheresjoeysmovie

Head of Household
Veto Winner
Nominated
Saved by Veto
Evicted


Game History:

Week 1
HOH: doLLish
Noms: brady911 & DubyaCeeDubya
POV: kyogre123
Final Noms: brady911 & DubyaCeeDubya
Evicted: DubyaCeeDubya (7-2-X)

Week 2
HOH: kyogre123
Noms: jasmineporter12 & mindthinkr
POV: justinfrando
Final Noms: jasmineporter12 & mindthinkr
Evicted: jasmineporter12 (7-1-X)

Week 3
HOH: justinfrando
Noms: doLLish & stonekeeper_ever
POV: kyogre123
Final Noms: shred-com & stonekeeper_ever
Evicted: stonekeeper_ever (6-1)

Week 4
HOH: doLLish
Noms: brady911 & bria2005
POV: doLLish
Final Noms: brady911 & justinfrando
Evicted: brady911 (5-2)

Week 5
HOH: kyogre123
Noms: HarleyStodden & justinfrando
POV: bria2005
Final Noms: justinfrando & shred-com
Evicted: justinfrando (3-3 + HOH Tiebreker) [First Juror]

Week 6
HOH: doLLish
Noms: EnnJaySee & shred-com
POV: bria2005
Final Noms: EnnJaySee & shred-com
Evicted: EnnJaySee (5-0) [Second Juror]

Week 7
HOH: bria2005
Noms: doLLish & kyogre123
POV: HarleyStodden
Final Noms: doLLish & kyogre123
Evicted: kyogre123 (4-0) [Third Juror]

Week 8
HOH: wheresjoeysmovie
Noms: bria2005 & HarleyStodden
POV: doLLish
Final Noms: bria2005 & HarleyStodden
Evicted: bria2005 (3-0) [Fourth Juror]

Week 9
HOH: shred-com
Noms: doLLish & mindthinkr
POV: doLLish
Final Noms: HarleyStodden & mindthinkr
Evicted: mindthinkr (2-0) [Fifth Juror]

Week 10
HOH: doLLish
Noms: HarleyStodden & shred-com
POV: doLLish
Final Noms: HarleyStodden & shred-com
Evicted: HarleyStodden (1-0) [Sixth Juror]

Week 11
Part 1: wheresjoeysmovie
Part 2: doLLish
Part 3 HOH: wheresjoeysmovie
Final Noms: doLLish & shred-com
Evicted: doLLish [Seventh Juror]

Schedule (all times in Central time):



» Quitting is not allowed. Once the game begins you will either get evicted or win the game. Quitting in a game like this is unfair to the rest of the players.
» Failure to vote 3 times will result in an expulsion. If we see there is any other problem we as hosts have a say in any other expulsion.

Final 2

Thanks to TomcatMurr for hosting Part 3, as I was unavailable earlier tonight. Also I wanna properly congratulate shred-com and wheresjoeysmovie on making it to the final 2! You both played a great game this season.

Now we enter the jury phase where the 7 members of the jury hold all the cards. The finalists will now post their opening speeches. Afterwards the jury may begin to ask their game related questions to the finalists.


JURY: Please ask only questions that are RELEVANT to the game. Don't ask "Whats your favorite color" or "Say 10 nice things about me". If I see something that is not game related I will ask you to ask something else and will even be removed from jury if it continues. Also 2 questions per finalist please. :)


I was going to have finale on Sunday but realistically I don't expect this all to be done by then so finale might be pushed back for Monday or Tuesday. Once all questions have been answered the jury will cast their vote for who they will like to see win iBig Brother 11: Grand Casino! (I will not be accepting votes until voting is open)

Good luck finalists, and you may post your opening speeches when you are ready.

Re: Final 2

Thank Javi, Cherry and Tomcat for getting me to play this game. I am bipolar with PTSD and mild schizophrenia. I dont tell everyone that but it's true. My social anxiety is through the roof. THis game allowed me to be social with people and be ok about that. I was just myself to get conversation going and I was myself on every topic (just leaving some things out game wise and wording them for less lie impact). My game was mostly hidden but my DR's are full LOL. I will gladly explain any move I made, coaxing to a nomination I made or comp I threw to avoid getting blood at points and to stand out in others. I will save it for the closing unless a question probes it out first. That sounded wrong LOL The one thing I say with COMPLETE CLARITY is I did enjoy every talk with every person I had. When I shared some very personal things with Bobby, I knew I wanted to keep him to the end. We really connected in an otherworldly way. I made sure to stop his eviction twice so I could keep him here. I am ready for any questions you might have.

Re: Final 2

Oh and I wanted to mention I was never on the block and forgot to!

Re: Final 2

Those were my exact questions for the finalists so sad that I can't use them.

Re: Final 2


Those were my exact questions for the finalists so sad that I can't use them.



Did I say too much in the opening? If so, I didnt mean to. Never done this.

Re: Final 2

No I was referring to Javi's questions that were considered irrelevant in his rules speech.

Re: Final 2

Oh. *smacks forehead

Re: Final 2

I don't know if I can ask questions anymore after finding out Taylor had Skype and never added me, brb crying.....😭😭

kidding

Congrats to the finalists!


Oh it's like slang. From...England

Opening speech

First off I want to say thank you to the three hosts. Javi you and I both knew at the very end of Tyler's game that we'd get along and like each other. You're a great host, and I can sit here today and say I do genuinely like you man. You may not talk to me as much as some others on here, but I know you feel the same. Cherry you and I go back (I know you remember we got along really well at one time), but it all got cut off years ago (for no good reason at all), and I was so happy to find out you were going to be a co host because it meant you and I would be able to talk again. It has been great Cherry. I mean it! Murr I know we haven't talked much, but you killed it with your challenges and anytime you want to message me, don't be afraid to. You seem like a really cool guy.

I came into this season like I come into any other. I look forward to having an awesome time, and always push myself to be the very best player that I can possibly be (you guys have no idea how afraid I am to disappoint myself). I was on the block five times by the end of this (and was still able to get to the final 2), and built real genuine friendships with every one of you that played a huge role in every round of this game (whether it was me surving the block or having the numbers to evict another houseguest). I never played in a game where I liked everybody as much as I did here (I really like you guys). I talked to every single one of you, gave my congrats whenever someone won a challenge, and everything I told you all in private was the truth.

I may not sit here with a story to tell you guys (like everyone, I have stuff in my past that really hurts too, people have hurt me, but I keep that stuff in), but I do sit here tonight as a confident strong guy that can find the humor in almost every situation and just likes to rock out have fun. I can say I'm truly proud of the game I played.

Re: Opening speech

Both finalists have posted their opening speeches, now the jury may post their questions.

Question for Shred (Bobby)

What was the strongest move that you made in the game?

Congratulations on making it to the Final 2

Be well and be kind.

Re: Question for Joey

Joey,

Given that you've manipulated, lied, played the sympathy card and back stabbed, which of those things do you think benefitted you the most?

Congratulations on making the Final 2


Be well and be kind.

Re: Question for Joey


Joey,

Given that you've manipulated, lied, played the sympathy card and back stabbed, which of those things do you think benefitted you the most?



I did manipulate some. I did lie some. Both were game only and not personal. I didn't play the sympathy card. I (unlike so many inactives) wanted everyone to know that there was a reason I couldn't show. If you're referring to my opening statement, I just wanted to tell Javi and the rest that they truly helped me playing this game. I am just a blunt person in general. Pity I dont like! I thought what I benefited most from was my social game. I was myself to everyone. I don't know if everyone liked me but I made it here and there were a long series of moves I made to get here. I am sorry you are so hurt by me, Deb. All of our conversations were quite real. I was untrusting of you at first but that changed

Re: Question for Joey

Sorry that comment came off as a " Bitter Betty" one as Neil called me. Yes, it stung at first but I see that you were a lot more skilled at this game coming into it than myself (lol...probably everyone was far superior than me). I don't harbor any ill will towards you. I asked the question to see which of the "getting your hands dirty" methods was the most helpful in this game. I evidently have much to learn.

Be well and be kind.

Re: Question for Joey


Sorry that comment came off as a " Bitter Betty" one as Neil called me. Yes, it stung at first but I see that you were a lot more skilled at this game coming into it than myself (lol...probably everyone was far superior than me). I don't harbor any ill will towards you. I asked the question to see which of the "getting your hands dirty" methods was the most helpful in this game. I evidently have much to learn.


I have always loved this game and was thrilled to get to do it. Having the mental record I do, I would NEVER be accepted to Big Brother so I got to do that here. I have been Big B obsessed since 2003. When my father was on his deathbed, the show distracted me and gave me some peace when I needed it most. I have loved it ever since. Jun was the first winner I saw- after my dad was gone. And yes I brought up my dad but hes been dead for 13 years and I had a point bringing it up. However, I don't know if I will ever play this again. I have been so stressed trying to keep my game intact and never go on the block- just so I could be part of whomever has done that previously with this. I have NEVER shared the recipe I shared with you and Taylor with anyone. SO I liked you quite a bit! :)

Re: Question for Shred (Bobby)


What was the strongest move that you made in the game?


Hey Deb! I think the strongest move that I made in the game was my personal relationship with Joey that I had made early on in this game (which led to a domino effect throughout the entire game that shattered everything from final 6 on). I'm not sure what you guys were talking with him about, but I spent hours in this game listening to him and caring about the things that happened in his life. I know he's now gonna be upset reading this thinking I was fake, but I wasn't. I comforted him in this game, and I cared. He became a friend, and someone like him with his history made me realize how lucky I truly am, and that I can be strong and take on the entire world even under the worst circumstances (cause he has lived through the worst). However I never forgot that it was a game, and let's not pretend that he wasn't hypnotized by me. You don't say you have an otherwordly connection with someone and not be. He was willing to completely rip apart (in sometimes a not so clean way) any other alliance he had for my game (he did this at many times throughout, so it wasn't just at one specific time either), and with his "alliance" on your side, I knew that I would be always covered even if *beep* went down. I know I'm gonna get 50 messages on Skype from you Joey , and you are my friend, but I came to here play and win this game.

Re: Question for Shred (Bobby)


I know I'm gonna get 50 messages on Skype from you Joey , and you are my friend, but I came to here play and win this game.
Re: Henry's queues



I left you one message Bobby and it said No hard feelings..you are clever but that you were incorrect about this game". ;) I do mean it though no hard feelings and congrats for making me think you cared. I did think you did but I also knew you wanted to win too. I could see that because I can completely separate personal and game. I am an adult. And your comments weren't too "friend"ly.

Re: Question for Shred (Bobby)


What was the strongest move that you made in the game?


Knowing what to do when I needed to. I will try to calculate all my moves to you in my closing (and there are many including thrown comps). For this, I will say when I convinced Bobby not to put me up to vote you out. Bobby, I see, is playing up how he used me. When you see my DR's, you'll see the feeling was mutual. One night when all of everything was too much, Bobby happened to be there and I did share some personal things with him and decided then I wanted to share them in DR's for people after the game. I had hoped the stories would help someone. He became an outlet but I was very well aware of his listening act. I am 39. It helped as an outlet I needed regardless and I did think he cared. I made sure Bobby stuck around (as DR's will tell) because I didn't think there was any way in the world I wouldn't win over him and he said he would never write my name down. What has he done really? I controlled his HOH in the end. He wanted to put me up because he thought I would not vote out Deb. I planned to vote her out already because she said more than once she was playing for Taylor to win and I needed her gone for that reason because Taylor would stick with me then if she made it. I still played the desperate puppy with him to make him think he was alpha (something he desperately needs in life). Bobby was helpful because I let him think he was using me- though I did think he cared too but wanted to win. The caring part was evidently a dupe (lol) but no hard feelings Bobby. I also had to pretend to Deb and you he gave me an ultimatum- to either vote out Deb or go home. He said nothing of the such but I needed Taylor to believe I would be wanting revenge later on Bobby.

Re: Question for Shred (Bobby)

I just realized I didn't label who went with what question. Oops

Re: Opening speech


Hey guys congrats! and welcome to the top 2, I am actually very surprise but happy at the same time just because its very unexpecting to see but that’s what is awesome about it, I know that if this is a real big brother or survivor game, probably one of taylor or henry would be in the top 2 but then again if it’s a physical competition, probably neil and I would be awesome at it :p. Anyway I can’t wait to ask this.

Joey, I know this was a really hard time for you with all the personal things going on and it really sucks that it had happened to you because no one really deserves that but in your speech, I don’t think you should have mentioned anything that was happening in your personal life because it does sound like you were looking for sympathy. Anyway I am more curious with your gameplay because I think a lot of people knows that you were playing both sides and like Henry, I am really more interested in the social aspect of the game. I don’t want to offend you but what I saw is that you were a riding in Henry and Taylor’s coat tail but then again you took your opportunity when you had a chance. I want you to change my mind though.
Since Henry already took one of my questions for you….the question that I want to ask is remember when I first won the hoh (this is when I put taylor on the block), and you told me you wanted to win it, what if you did win that round, who would you have nominated because you were pretty insistent of wanting henry out.


Now Bobby, first of all like what everyone has been saying, you are an awesome guy and when I first talk to you I didn’t know if you were pretending to be nice but at the end, I think you were actually very genuine and got stronger each week, you were strong at challenges and at the same time was very quiet which is a dangerous thing to do. So can you please elaborate more in the way you played your game and who did you wanted to take in the final two with you because I am actually very interested in what was your game plan.

And my last question for both of you, this might be very ballsy but I would appreciate if both of you are honest, in the jury, please list each one of us on who you think will vote for you and why. I know it’s hard but I think this will be interesting.

Re: Opening speech


Now Bobby, first of all like what everyone has been saying, you are an awesome guy and when I first talk to you I didn’t know if you were pretending to be nice but at the end, I think you were actually very genuine and got stronger each week, you were strong at challenges and at the same time was very quiet which is a dangerous thing to do. So can you please elaborate more in the way you played your game and who did you wanted to take in the final two with you because I am actually very interested in what was your game plan.


I was always genuine Justin. I want everyone in this game to know (and those following it), that I think really highly of you guys. I genuinely like you people a lot. Do you guys think I would keep coming back if I didn't? I've been on and off these boards (or boards with some of you guys) for years now and I haven't even played in that many games really. If you check the official game boards, you'll notice I really have only played in a handful. It's always been about you guys. These games are just for fun. Tyler asked me if I'd like to play in another game earlier this year, and I noticed it was actually way more difficult now (I'll be 29 next year and it can be tough to put so time into these like you're 20 again), but this is the third game that I've played this year cause even after all these years, they are still just as fun as they were years ago.

Justin I wanted to go to the final 2 with Harley, and I wanted Harley, Bria, and I to be the final 3. I was on the block 5 times by the end though, so it was really hard. I gave it my all in the challenges (I was like third in a lot of them), but I just couldn't get the answers submitted fast enough. I guess it was never meant to be with me (except for that one hoh at final 5 that I won, and I was so happy about that win Justin. I may have not won more than that, but I I was the happiest guy on earth for that brief moment (<3) cause I truly thought I was going to end this game not winning any), and it's okay. Joey thinks he carried me the entire way, but doesn't everyone have a vote in this? Isn't everyone equally important? He has no idea what we were all talking about in private. He has no idea that I also became friends with you and Neil (unless you told him). That Taylor and I were actually super cool with one another would always send nice messages to each other even if she put me up. There's so much that went on that he has no idea about.
I came into this game wanting to lay low, but I turned that around when I knew it was a bad idea (even though I was still quiet on here) and ended up just taking it day by day to get to the very end (since I was on the block so many times). I see nothing wrong with being on the block either (I know Joey wants to brag that he was never put up). I'm not gonna be made to feel ashamed by it. Battle wounds are fine. I was always nervous when I was on the block, but I was never mad about it. It's just a game.

Re: Opening speech

I just want you to know I'm gonna start jumping around with the questions. I promise I'll answer everything though.

Re: Opening speech


And my last question for both of you, this might be very ballsy but I would appreciate if both of you are honest, in the jury, please list each one of us on who you think will vote for you and why. I know it’s hard but I think this will be interesting.


80-20. That's seriously the only thing I can think as I'm trying to answer this . I have not heard a thing about how anybody is thinking of voting, so I really don't know Justin. Is it okay if I don't answer this? If I ever do win I'll buy you something nice with my prize winnings to make up for for not answering <3. I seriously just know I'll somehow jinx myself somehow if I do answer (no matter what I say) It'll be like dropping a mirror in this thread and I'll probably have a 100 years of bad luck and there will be a mess all over the floor just to make it worse. However a vote for me is a vote for puppies <3.

Henry's queues

Congrats guys on making it to the end. Right now my vote is 80-20 but it can definitely change...


Question for Bobby:

Ok so seems like you made it far because people liked you and Joey wanted to take you to the end. You said you tried to be friendly to everyone so that you were liked and were never at risk of being evicted. That is a great strategy and all, but I am someone who likes their social masterminds to also get their hands a little bit dirty so that to me, it looks like this person REALLY worked hard to get to the end and just didn't depend on others to get them there. I can understand if someone just isn't good at challenges or has a crappy computer/internet speed, but I am wondering if you threw any challenges this season knowing that you had most of the cast wrapped around your fingers and you were not at risk of being evicted?



Question for Joey:

I think you played a good game, all things considered. It takes a lot of courage to work with "both" sides of the house and not being worried about being caught. I didn't know you and Bobby were so tight until I voted to evict Justin and you told me you were glad I kept Bobby. That's when it clicked to me, but before I had no idea, so good job. Seems like you did work hard in challenges and in being at least somewhat social with people and I admire that. Now, had I voted in the tie breaker to evict Bobby instead of Frando, walk me through how your game changes now that he is out of the game.



Question for both:

Say ELEVEN nice things about me....JUST KIDDING!! Javi!


Good luck to you both.

Oh it's like slang. From...England

Re: Henry's queues

Oh Deb shut up. Talk about a bitter Betty. For someone who claimed to not be that into this and not really care, you're sure being harsh on somebody else. My instinct was right about you. Moron. You are entitled to your opinion but you are unjustifiably bitter and it's irritating.

"Be well and be kind." Should maybe practice what you preach.

#VivaLaBull - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Re: Neil's comments


Alright guys. Well done again on making the final two. I have nothing against the pair of you and as I've said, my vote is totally up for grabs.

So I was (I believe) the last person to join this game. I had no intention of playing. I'm just not interested in these games any more. I don't have the required patience for it. I agreed anyway, spur of the moment and had fun in parts. I really enjoyed talking again with the likes of Harley, Misty, got to properly meet Frando who is a nice guy, met a couple of real old skoolers in Bobby and Bria, got on great with them, had some nice talks with Joey. All that was good but of course it was hindered by the rivalry with Henry and Taylor, which wasn't fun. All I wanted was to beat them, but grew frustrated of course so I lost the head and the rest is history. It's no problem, I got over it mighty quick and neither of them made the end so it worked out.

So with all that being said, I wasn't really paying attention to what was going on or who was really with who. I mean we all knew Henry and Taylor were together and they had Deb with them, but the rest is less clear to me so I want you guys to best explain your games and alliances. You don't have to write a book lol just list each person in the cast and what sort of relationship/alliance you had with them. What would your ideal path to the end have looked like?

This is basically the reverse of the previous question lol but what would your ideal jury boot list have been? No need for a lengthy explanation for each, a simple list of names in the order you'd have liked to see them evicted with a few words will suffice.

Thanks guys and I wish you both the best of luck. I know winning will mean a lot to both of you and that's exactly the outcome I wanted for this game.



#VivaLaBull - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Re: Neil's comments


So with all that being said, I wasn't really paying attention to what was going on or who was really with who. I mean we all knew Henry and Taylor were together and they had Deb with them, but the rest is less clear to me so I want you guys to best explain your games and alliances. You don't have to write a book lol just list each person in the cast and what sort of relationship/alliance you had with them. What would your ideal path to the end have looked like?

This is basically the reverse of the previous question lol but what would your ideal jury boot list have been? No need for a lengthy explanation for each, a simple list of names in the order you'd have liked to see them evicted with a few words will suffice.


Justin - Justin and started not having any relationship at all, and he was actually going to come after me because of that. However we started talking, and the next thing you know we both realized that we liked each other a lot (I mean a lot). I told him the night he got evicted that I would finish what he started and bring him the justice he deserved. I never forgot about him throughout the entire game. He was always there with me even if he wasn't actually there.

Neil - You seem to be a really polarizing guy on this board which I don't get because I never find what you say to be mean spirited or full of any hate (I've told you this before). You're Neil, and I like you for the way you are you. You and I started off this game talking about Thanksgiving and what foods you eat over there and what we have over here. It was such a small thing to talk about, but sometimes the small things can leave a lasting impression. We always fought on the same side, but I don't think you ever really wanted to go to the end with me. You voted for me that one round, and it was okay. Neither of us even had to talk it over. We were both going down the same path, and like soldiers (<3) we still fought side by side in this whole thing with nothing but respect for one another.

Henry - Henry and I actually had really interesting dynamic going on while we played with each other. He told me he didn't use Skype much, but I'd still go on there and send him messages and never leave any on here . I had to stay strong. For a while I thought there was a wall between us and I to be honest, I never said this him, but I thought I was doing something wrong and he maybe didn't like me too much. He has a great sense of humor (I think we both have a similar fun outlook on life), and people I luv on here like him a lot, so him and I should be best buddies by now and sending each messages all the time. One day I wanted to find something that him and I had in common so I went on his profile and noticed he liked Korn. I then went on Skype to tell him <3. I was certain it would bring us together. Him and I just had different goals. We both wanted to win, but we had to say our goodbyes because we were gonna be taking two different roads once we hit that fork. It's now the the end of the game and I totally mean it that I would go to hard rock show with him. I'd even go to one of the bands I don't care for with him and if we are in the back and he can't see well, I'd lift him up (or try) so he can <3.

Bria - Oh Bria . Bria and I first met a couple games ago, and since then we have become really close. She and I still haven't been able to get to the final 3 and I know one day in my heart it will happen. I came into this game wanting to make up the world to her for what happened in Tyler's game. I know she was hurt, and I don't ever want to see her hurt. Her boot round this round was excruciating because everything that happened in Tyler's game was happening again. She was hurt again and I felt terrible. I want you to know Bria, what I said that night was the truth. You know how everything went down, and how I am. I meant everything. Bria said when she left that some people don't change, and I know she was talking about me. I can't change though Bria because this is me. I'm the Bobby you know, and the Bobby you know cares. The Bria I know (with the job I respect) is someone that I hope and wish never changes.

Deb - Deb we started talking kind of late, and I kick myself because you're such a sweet person and it was a ton of fun to watch you play. I loved some of your answers to the games so much omg . For the longest time I actually assumed that you were a sock, so that was probably why I didn't open up to you sooner, but either way it doesn't matter. I sent you a message after you left and I hope you remember it because I meant every word. Kristin Chenoweth btw <3.

Harley - Harley and I had an alliance from the very beginning of this, and I was loyal to him to the very end (it as was always you Harley James <3). I told him how I felt a couple nights ago on Skype (I'd rather keep it between us). I had (have) such a soft spot for him in this game, and he's such a great player, and he made this (along with the rest of you) one of the best games I've ever played in. I hope he keeps in touch when this is all said and done.

Taylor - TAY. Yas. You were such a thorn in my side and you knew it, but man we got along really well and we had such a fun rivalry where we were open to one another and would still chill out in the HOH room. Like there was almost an understanding by like week 5 that we both wanted each other out, but it wasn't personal and we could make the most of it until one of us left. We sent each other super nice messages until the very end and we can both say that we are friends and respect one another. We were on different sides, but as people, we are on the same side, and you and I will totally take selfies after the show and post them all over social media for the Big Brother fans <3.

Neil, I will post the answer for part 2 in another message so this doesn't get too long.

Re: Neil's comments

Aww Bobby that was so nice Yea I am so sorry I was not engaging in conversations. I guess it was a combination of yea, knowing we had different goals in this game, but also cuz I was busy and I just don't go on Skype as much as I used to. Like the same thing happened in the last game i played, Bitch Survivor 23. Rarely logged in to skype and when I did I would have tons of messages from people in the game that I didn't see until like a week after they were sent I just suck with Skype these days.

But yea Korn is awesome! We need to have a chat one of these days about which other bands you like.

Thank you for your answers.


and if we are in the back and he can't see well, I'd lift him up (or try) so he can <3.


omg who told you I am a short guy?? but thanks!!!


Oh it's like slang. From...England

Re: Neil's comments


I want you guys to best explain your games and alliances. You don't have to write a book lol just list each person in the cast and what sort of relationship/alliance you had with them. What would your ideal path to the end have looked like?

This is basically the reverse of the previous question lol but what would your ideal jury boot list have been? No need for a lengthy explanation for each, a simple list of names in the order you'd have liked to see them evicted with a few words will suffice.


In the beginning, I spoke to everyone and was going to see what happened- which took a lot for me LOL. In the beginning, I thought I most wanted to take you because you understood my irritations and I could cuss and be crazy with you and we had a 5 person alliance (and was happy to have a newbies alliance also which would help carry me). The moment I found out you were less than liked (lol) and that you wanted to control me (I felt), I moved myself over more to Taylor and Deb more (especially after I found they had Henry). I threw more than a comp or two (Javi even wrote in my Dr's cause one was so obvious to him and its one I would have won too ironically- the drs will tell you why). I threw them because it would mess up my game MORE OFTEN THAN NOT to win- because my hand was in so many cookie jars. THen there was Bobby. I do give him credit for making me think he cared so much and I thought I had a connection with him. I was not, however, duped by him game-wise. I carried him and FAR. I was not set for personal mode on this- or anything else I do. I genuinely liked everyone a lot but did not want any of you to win. I was most happy Taylor lasted so long because her wanting to keep me DEFINITELY helped me most and she was awesome to talk to also. I hope she still wants to talk to me when this is over. I also worked hard at convincing her to stay- which ended up being a move but I was NOT thinking of it as that at the time. And the order- I am not sure. It was hard to decipher that with my game- it changed a lot!

AND AGAIN- I was never on the block!

Re: Neil's comments


Joey, I know this was a really hard time for you with all the personal things going on and it really sucks that it had happened to you because no one really deserves that but in your speech, I don’t think you should have mentioned anything that was happening in your personal life because it does sound like you were looking for sympathy. Anyway I am more curious with your gameplay because I think a lot of people knows that you were playing both sides and like Henry, I am really more interested in the social aspect of the game. I don’t want to offend you but what I saw is that you were a riding in Henry and Taylor’s coat tail but then again you took your opportunity when you had a chance. I want you to change my mind though.
Since Henry already took one of my questions for you….the question that I want to ask is remember when I first won the hoh (this is when I put taylor on the block), and you told me you wanted to win it, what if you did win that round, who would you have nominated because you were pretty insistent of wanting henry out.



Mentioning I had mental illnesses is just a fact and not one I am ashamed of. I wanted to simply compliment Javi and myself for doing this at all. At the time you mentioned Justin, I was mostly loyal to our 5-person alliance (Neil and Misty moreso). I didn't know Henry was with Taylor and Deb yet honestly. I just knew he was damn good at challenges. I know you think I was the rat but I was not. That was Harley. Yet Henry trusted me enough to tell me what he did and I wanted to get the questions out there. I did want Henry out that week. I dont know who I would have put up. I was having a manic episode that night because I had a point taken from me for missing the eviction vote. I dont have much control when I am in those and I can get pissed. I wanted to win so I could say damn you Javi for taking a point from me. When I had HOH (had I got it), I would have been panicking to find out what to do. I would have put up Henry for sure and struggled on the rest. I might have lost Taylor and Deb then for doing so and be gone A LOT sooner so thank you for winning Justin and sorry I helped influence your choices- which made your game harder. I truly mean I was myself with all of you except about the game.

Re: Neil's comments


This is basically the reverse of the previous question lol but what would your ideal jury boot list have been? No need for a lengthy explanation for each, a simple list of names in the order you'd have liked to see them evicted with a few words will suffice.


Being on the block so many times, it sucks because the boot order just becomes so much different than what is going to follow.

9th - Taylor
8th - Henry
7th - Deb
6th - Joey
5th - Neil
4th - Justin
3rd - Bria
Top 2
Harley and I


It would be like Borneo (even BB16 would have more thrills) and everyone at home would be bored <3 (don't call me back CBS if I ever apply for one of your shows). I hope nobody gets upset because they are on the bottom or near it (it's just a game rank) Taylor and Henry you both kinda have to go first for this to be at all realistic since you'd most likely keep swapping challenge wins no matter what until Bria randomly wins Bingo .

Re: Henry's queues


Ok so seems like you made it far because people liked you and Joey wanted to take you to the end. You said you tried to be friendly to everyone so that you were liked and were never at risk of being evicted. That is a great strategy and all, but I am someone who likes their social masterminds to also get their hands a little bit dirty so that to me, it looks like this person REALLY worked hard to get to the end and just didn't depend on others to get them there. I can understand if someone just isn't good at challenges or has a crappy computer/internet speed, but I am wondering if you threw any challenges this season knowing that you had most of the cast wrapped around your fingers and you were not at risk of being evicted?


Oh man, I'm really hoping that I'm the one with the 80 percent chance because 20 percent is super bad . If I am the one who will most likely not get your vote, just know it's cool (we can still plan a date and go to a Korn show <3 or any hard rock show of your pick). I want you to know Henry that I did play really hard. I played really, really hard throughout the entire game. I'm always a bit quiet on these boards in any game I play (I don't know why, but I just am). However I would be rolling around at night not being able to sleep because of this game. My mind was racing because of so many aspects (some not even strategical), and I was having vivid dreams of the entire thing. I would not tell that to anyone in my day to day life because they'd I was crazy to care so much about game with no prize at all at the end. I can't help that I still love to play these things. Anyways, I threw the first two hoh challenges (that was a plan though and I always cared a lot about this though). My plan at first was just to lay low and not be noticed (it was around Thanksgiving time, so it hard). That's why if you go back to the first few pages, it seemed like I didn't care and was absent. However I had to change that because people who were inactive or seemed it were getting evicted, and Justin was gonna be going after me because we hadn't talked yet (which I'm so glad we started to because he is <3). I could not get the challenges right. A lot of them were luck (I mean anybody could have won the fruits challenge), and let's not all insult ourselves, I mean a few of the challenges were like 2+2 hurry and submit. We all knew it, but couldn't get our messages sent fast enough. Taylor got hers faster and did great (you truly did gurl). I would start to panic and *beep* up with some of my posts too . It was a drunken mess. One time I think I got like 17 + 5 wrong or something cause I was concerned about how fast I was getting *beep* in. Joey won a couple more challenges than me (we were both only hoh once before the final 3 though) but we both got our hands dirty. However I was able to get myself to the end in a much smoother way with how I was playing, so I'm sorry if my hands looks cleaner. Isn't that a good thing though Henry? You have to excel at all aspects of games like these, and if you look like a hot mess (<3) at the end of this, then something went wrong.

Re: Henry's queues


Question for Joey:

I think you played a good game, all things considered. It takes a lot of courage to work with "both" sides of the house and not being worried about being caught. I didn't know you and Bobby were so tight until I voted to evict Justin and you told me you were glad I kept Bobby. That's when it clicked to me, but before I had no idea, so good job. Seems like you did work hard in challenges and in being at least somewhat social with people and I admire that. Now, had I voted in the tie breaker to evict Bobby instead of Frando, walk me through how your game changes now that he is out of the game.



At the time, I wasn't as close with Bobby. But he had told me he would never write my name down. Justin's paranoia was getting to me because he thought I was the rat but I was not the rat but I knew Harley was (and was later proven right when he told me). If you had changed your vote, nothing would change for me. I carried Bobby this whole game (like a backup purse), thinking for sure I would win against him. If Justin stayed, I would have just kept doing what I did- being me to everyone and keeping many options to get to the end open.

Re: Henry's queues


I carried Bobby this whole game, thinking for sure I would win against him.


Carried me?
Another post coming and then I'm going to move on to Neil's second question.

Re: Henry's queues


I carried Bobby this whole game, thinking for sure I would win against him.


Indeed I did..like a purse- one to confide in (non game things) and one to beat.

Re: Henry's queues


I know he's now gonna be upset reading this thinking I was fake, but I wasn't. I comforted him in this game, and I cared. He became a friend, and someone like him with his history made me realize how lucky I truly am, and that I can be strong and take on the entire world even under the worst circumstances (cause he has lived through the worst).


I said this about you on the last page you know.

Re: Henry's queues

Let's not argue though. It's just a game man! If you want to talk we can go to Skype.

Re: Henry's queues


Let's not argue though. It's just a game man! If you want to talk we can go to Skype.


Do you not see how my opening statement led you to this? I was hoping it would not but it did.

Re: Henry's queues


I know he's now gonna be upset reading this thinking I was fake, but I wasn't. I comforted him in this game, and I cared. He became a friend, and someone like him with his history made me realize how lucky I truly am, and that I can be strong and take on the entire world even under the worst circumstances (cause he has lived through the worst).


Like I said, whether you cared or not (I hope you really did), I thanked you because I did need you for that ear to calm down as the funeral brought up many things long dormant. I will give you that as how I needed you. Game- I give you nothing. Sorry but I dont see it...at least regarding me. Maybe others in your alliance but not me. Taylor and Justin are the main people I needed in this game to get where I am...through specific moments. I threw blame off on Justin in different ways- probably who I feel worst about in that aspect of the game. And I liked Justin a lot- though his paranoia got to me and him thinking I was the rat hurting my game and Neil's thought of sticking with me.

Re: Henry's queues


I know he's now gonna be upset reading this thinking I was fake, but I wasn't. I comforted him in this game, and I cared. He became a friend, and someone like him with his history made me realize how lucky I truly am, and that I can be strong and take on the entire world even under the worst circumstances (cause he has lived through the worst).


I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Again, I am talking about personal. I accepted a long time ago you were also listening to me for strategy and a bond to help you. THats game. I just want to believe you really cared too. My opening statement was a trap to see what you would do. THat is why I am in question. However, in essence, it probably makes me seem personal as I look back. So no worries and much love to ya and I will let it go. I also hope we keep talking and you actually share some this time. FOOTNOTE- if you want someone to buy that kind of manipulation, you should be sharing too. One way or the other, I got nothing but love for you and the rest.

Re: Henry's queues

If I had one thing to do over though, I think I would have pushed for Harley to go instead of Bria. But that's hindsight and I am here anyway. I think I am having a manic episode talking. I am going to shut up now LOL

Re: Henry's queues


I know he's now gonna be upset reading this thinking I was fake, but I wasn't. I comforted him in this game, and I cared. He became a friend, and someone like him with his history made me realize how lucky I truly am, and that I can be strong and take on the entire world even under the worst circumstances (cause he has lived through the worst).

I said this about you on the last page you know.
Your Reply:



I said plenty of kind things about you too. We aren't fighting- at least to me. Again personal and game are very different for me. Everything I said personally to someone in this game (un game related) was ALL ME AND ALL TRUTH. ALl you ever get with me personally.

Re: Henry's queues


I know he's now gonna be upset reading this thinking I was fake, but I wasn't. I comforted him in this game, and I cared. He became a friend, and someone like him with his history made me realize how lucky I truly am, and that I can be strong and take on the entire world even under the worst circumstances (cause he has lived through the worst).

I said this about you on the last page you know.


Maybe I feel a little bad now after my manic episode. You did make it to the final 2 and you did use listening to me to make that happen to a degree. Regardless of what I did or didn't know. If I didn't believe you, I may not have chosen you over Deb- as the person I thought easiest to beat with a non-bitter jury hopefully. Early on, I wanted to play that until Deb made it clear who she wanted to win and would sacrifice herself to do so. Honestly though- partly because of you- I didnt choose her. THe other was her allegiance to Taylor. Taylor is who I wanted to vote out with that HoH of yours but she got off the block as always. LOL I knew you wanted her off too and hoped she wouldnt win so I could tie it and make you send her home. I wanted to use Deb to the final 2 if she hadnt. But her winning forced me to play all 3 of you to the best of my ability. Harley was playing everyone and I knew his number already.

However, it was unfair to say you didn't help at all. I am clarifying that because I sounded a little a**holish looking back over it.

Bria's questions and thoughts

So I have a couple of thoughts and then questions:

Joey you and I talked quite a bit on Skype. You were super nice and kind to me during those chats. Well I am now just hearing that I was your target all along and that you talked about getting me out behind my back. It makes me feel like all of those Skype talks were just an act. This is something I would like cleared up.

Bobby you Harley and I were supposed to be a final three in my book. But looking at your answers I now realize that probably wasn't the case. You and Harley were the duo and I was just being carried for my vote. So I am not sure where I stood with you. So if you can clear that up for me I would appreciate that. Also my quote about people not changing yes was directed at you but was referring to game play and not personality.

Question for both what mistake did each juror make that led to their vote out?

Congratulations to both of you!

Re: Bria's questions and thoughts


Joey you and I talked quite a bit on Skype. You were super nice and kind to me during those chats. Well I am now just hearing that I was your target all along and that you talked about getting me out behind my back. It makes me feel like all of those Skype talks were just an act. This is something I would like cleared up.



Whomever told you that is lying. I explained a lot in this in earlier statements on here. I even named my regret keeping Harley over you knowing they were together too. As I said in all of my statements, I was me ALL THE TIME. I only fibbed regarding game play EVER. I never had any specific target from the beginning. It changed all the time. You only became a target that week so I could keep Taylor thinking I was perfectly with them. I wished I had chose Harley now (as I said) but he just didnt seem to be playing much. He was letting everyone else do the work. I hated taking you out after you made the most important move in the game. It's probably best I dont regret though or else I may not have gotten here. Nothing I have said to ANYONE (non game related) is false. My fiance will tell you lying is what I dislike more than anything. I even tried to word some things to people in a not-lying way and them not notice. WHomever said you were my target all along is full of it. My DR's will show I never mentioned you once as a target. I didnt know you were going out until I won and realized I needed to put you two up- to keep Bobby and Taylor thinking it was all them!

Re: Bria's questions and thoughts


Question for both what mistake did each juror make that led to their vote out?


I can only answer from personal experience but I will try.

Justin- His paranoia about me being the rat he was saying to others made me nervous. Even though I was not the rat, I could tell people were starting to think I was. I had blamed a few things on Justin subtly- like evictions. I kept Misty but needed some to think I didn't and Lied to him. I had also voted for him in previous round to go and told Harley and Neil. Harley told on me as I figured he would because Justin changed tone. I didn't mean to tell them either. I screwed up in the midst of stress.

Neil- Him and Taylors clash messed him up. Taylor took things way too personal. She was also winning everything so I could not hold onto Neil any longer and I dont think anyone else even was at that point. I could be wrong though. He was the first alliance I made and it hurt some.

Henry- Being too good at things and not being Taylor.

Bria- You took out Henry and that was awesome. I just needed Taylor to keep going because of Deb. I thought it would be a way to show her allegiance. It was all decided quick on double eviction. I never knew it was you HONEST until I won. You were a good competitor and as I told you at some point- hardest decision in the game for me. Not Taylor.

Deb- Because you wanted Taylor to win and you were part of my most crucial move- which I described in detail in early posts. I had to make everyone else think a different thing to keep me in the game. If Taylor had not got off of the block, Deb would have very likely been final 2

Harley- He didn't seem like he would fight enough to beat Taylor in the last 3 pt comp and I was more sure Bobby would take me if he did. Him and Harley were an alliance too but earlier when you left, I wanted Harley to think I took out his best ally to keep him with me. He was already talking to me like Bobby told him how to and I knew he was full of it. They were terrified of Taylor. That was a choice I made.

Taylor- She didnt win that last HoH or she'd be the winner- no matter who she took.

Re: Bria's questions and thoughts


Bobby you Harley and I were supposed to be a final three in my book. But looking at your answers I now realize that probably wasn't the case. You and Harley were the duo and I was just being carried for my vote. So I am not sure where I stood with you. So if you can clear that up for me I would appreciate that. Also my quote about people not changing yes was directed at you but was referring to game play and not personality.


Bria when you and I first started this, I wasn't sure if you ever really wanted to work with me again after what went down in Tyler's game. At first I remember it was kinda quiet between us on Skype , but a few rounds in you and I started to have the relationship we did in Tyler's game (not the spy part), but the friendship part. You may not have took me off the block when you won veto, and I may have went up when you did use it, but I told you I understood. When I voted for you at the final 6 you know how I felt. I talked with you on Skype about it. Since then I know what you do for a living, and I truly respect you. You have always known where I stood with you since we first started playing these games together. We've never not been friends. I'm sorry if you were hurt.

Re: Henry's queues

Umm... yes I wanted Taylor to win but had thought that I was being used as a goat and for me, a first time player, I was hoping to make it until the final four. Knowing I was weak in challenges I assumed that I'd get picked off which is when my allegiance would have gone to Taylor and Joey. At no point did I quit...or didn't want to win. I understand this is how Joey feels but why would I come to a game and not want to play and win? I was just trying not to set unreasonable expectations. I DID NOT play the game solely as a vote for Taylor.

Be well and be kind.

Re: Henry's queues


Umm... yes I wanted Taylor to win but had thought that I was being used as a goat and for me, a first time player, I was hoping to make it until the final four. Knowing I was weak in challenges I assumed that I'd get picked off which is when my allegiance would have gone to Taylor and Joey. At no point did I quit...or didn't want to win. I understand this is how Joey feels but why would I come to a game and not want to play and win? I was just trying not to set unreasonable expectations. I DID NOT play the game solely as a vote for Taylor.



But you are the one who told me. You said you would rather sacrifice yourself than see Taylor lose. I thought you just admired her gameplay and you didn't seem like you thought you should win- constantly downing yourself about messing up challenges. At first, I thought you were faking it. But then we talked more and I realized it was just very new to you. I just knew you wanted Taylor more than me- at least from the conversations we had. Maybe I misunderstood but I am just going on our conversations and what I took out of them game-wise (personal aside)
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