Games: Other Games : MURRCHER IDOL 2: AGE OF THE MERMICORNS (Final 3 theme posted)

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Please keep me out of this lol.

#VivaLaBull - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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We should call her just Sunflower from now on, better yet, maybe just Hemlock will suffice. lol

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She's going into my ignore list, and everyone else should do the same. She'll shut up when she finds that no one cares.

"A passionate celibacy is all that any of us can look forward to."

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The old men will be hard to beat in this one.

#VivaLaBull - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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Sorry to see you go sunny poker face is awesome it would have gotten a great score from me

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I had a feeling that sunflower was going to spazz out and I am right. Sunflower, I guess you don't take losing very well. Hopefully you can just admit when your time is over instead of always bashing the host. I also take it that you don't like losing in an argument which is why you always retort your post back to what happened a week ago. In Cherry's defense she was defending you against that troll but you don't seem to appreciate that.

Overall I really don't know why you have a high temper and sometimes it's alright to say ok it's my fault. Now to end this post, Poker face was a bad choice especially when Cherry is judging :p

Round 10

Sometimes time folds and overlaps. A glimpse into the Mermicorn future...

"[...] homo sapiens, 'human' colloquially. Their skulls were narrower, and their muzzles flatter, than other great apes. Their rituals became destructive, their ideologies divisive...
... vain attempts to save their own environment, worn as a badge of individuality and ideological group rather than any earnest attempt, for the apparent love of materialism and willfully accepting commercialism as a surrogate for autonomy or conscientiousness...
... elected leaders who served only their immediate interests, and who used divisive social politics as a headfake to obscure their true objective: to amass wealth, while selling to the populace that they, too, could amass similar wealth if they just 'try harder', with fellow members of the populace seen as the reason, as though marginally different social ideologies were all that were restricting an individual...
... and while scientific information itself was censored in authoritarian fashion to suit a crony business objective, and journalists arrested, some resorted to empty banners and slogans, while others merely refreshed their 'feed' endlessly...
... they watched the tragedy unfold. They did as they were told; they bought and sold. It was the greatest show on Earth, but then it was over. They ooo'd and awe'd, they drove their racing cars; they ate their last few jars of caviar. And somewhere, up in the stars, the keen eyed look-out spied a flickering light...
... in the article, the alien anthropologists admitted they were still perplexed. But on eliminating every other reason for their sad demise, they logged the only explanation left: this species has amused itself to death."

Theme 10A: Amused to Death

Basically, songs that are either anti-commercialism or pro-environment, or mock the idea of frivolous consumption. Or even just mocking the idea of selling some concept of individuality/autonomy/whatever as a product. I'll accept anything of the sort. Basically, *beep* the system, man". It needs to be THE main theme of the song, though - not just a line here or there. Ideally kind of apocalyptic, for the lolz, but that's not required.

Theme 10B: President Gas

He comes in from the left; sometimes, he comes in from the right. President gas on everything but roller skates! Basically, a song that's critical of a president. Doesn't have to be the same president who's currently throwing a tantrum to censor science itself because it disagrees with him - it can be any president, or presidents in general, or some fictitious president, or even other leaders besides presidents (prime ministers, monarchs, etc... are fine). It needs to be anti-them, though.

Send songs to me, Tomcat Murr, ideally by Friday morning CCT.

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If I was still around, I'd be leaving on this one. I don't like being angry. So many emotions that music can evoke, and being pissed off isn't one that I normally enjoy.

And I've always been more of an establishment square than anything else. I guess that Trump is a dangerous idiot (I wouldn't call him evil just yet), the U.S. congress and senate has been crippled by IDIOTIC posturing on both sides (watching them refuse to reasonably debate anything on C-SPAN is nauseating), half* of the population wants handouts for every little thing while our country is refusing to let in people who are genuinely in fear for their lives in Burma and elsewhere that has nothing to do with the Muslim majority countries, those Muslim majority countries may or may not pose a threat to the U.S. but there are SO MANY ways to enact a stronger border without downright shutting it down, -- *deep breath* -- and we need to manage our natural forests much more effectively WHILE SENSIBLY ACKNOWLEDGING that we, you know, kinda need wood for making boxes for kitties to rest in. Also houses.

But no, it's all yelling and argument and no one working together on anything because they must agree with their party's stance all the time. And songs like these tend to exacerbate the issue.

At heart, though, I'm an establishment square. I believe in order and authority. I believe that if you wish to change the heart of a man, you speak with him respectfully, instead of protesting him and making yourself antagonistic.

That said, I would send something in a Guernica album for the first theme. I know that mocking their nation's imperial mindset is one of their more well known attributes, and even if I can't understand the language, the music sells it pretty clearly.

And for the second theme... something from Wicked, perhaps? That musical is a fascinating tragedy, showcasing Elphie's rise from outcast to conscience-ridden bystander, ultimately to freedom fighter/terrorist (take your pick). But there are loads of other fascinating characters, most notably Galinda (self-centered brat develops into conniving -- but well-intentioned -- witch with a talent for insinuating herself into circles of power). Oddly, the most powerful song from the play that fits this theme is Wonderful, sung by the Wizard himself: A song that he uses to entice Elphaba to his side by appealing to her vanity (as an outcast who's never been able to fit in, his offer of acceptance is tantalizing) and her goodness (the song almost plays like a philanderer telling a virtuous girl that her love will change him). Interestingly, the bulk of the song basically comes down to this: The Winners Write History -- and the Present. And if Elphie joins him, he'll give her the acceptance and position she craves, and he will work with her to fix the problems in Oz.

There are other factors too (I find it interesting that throughout the play, the Wizard sincerely seems to believe that he is a good man doing what is best for Oz), which is part of what makes the show so great: it has layers and can be played in many different ways. But on the whole, this one song is a powerful criticism of show business politics, as sung by a man who is a master of the system.

*Hyperbole

"A passionate celibacy is all that any of us can look forward to."

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So many emotions that music can evoke, and being pissed off isn't one that I normally enjoy.


I mean, this theme can evoke a lot of emotions, too. One of the songs I thought of for it was David Bowie's "Drive-In Saturday", which definitely doesn't come across as pissed off - actually comes across as very *pretty*.

My idea for it wasn't necessarily political, strictly speaking - though that's obviously a direction the theme could've been taken (and was, for the most part). And there were some angry songs I had in mind, including Bright Eyes' "Let's Not Sht Ourselves (To Love and Be Loved)", which I'm amazed no one sent - I thought that was the easy pick (I'm scowling at you kids!).

For the second theme, the inspiration was actually legit just the Psychedelic Furs' "President Gas" (which no one sent...), but I figured whatwith modern hysteria, there was a good theme idea there. I wholly admit that, politically, I'm a human-hating, anti-capitalist, anarcho-commie/collectivist/whatever. And sure, necessity is one thing, but... well, that's a long separate rant. heh.

I actually didn't intend for the first theme to be angry, though. David Bowie and T. Rex songs were some of the inspiration, as well as some Church songs (heh...), but obviously it's also a common, and angrier theme, among a lot of other artists. Which is fine. That said, "Jung the foreman prayed at work / Neither hands nor limbs would burst / It's hard enough to keep formation with this fall out saturation" to a quasi-doo wop arrangement would've sufficed.

Circular Dime Results!

We are Siamese, if you please; we are Siamese if you don't please...

10A: Amused to Death

Jesse
Courtney Barnett - Depreston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NVOawOXxSA


Cherry: I know Murr likes this girl, but I remember judging a couple songs by her before, and I didn't like any of them. This one is slow and her singing is clear and easy to understand, so I don't have to look up the lyrics. Um...it's okay. She sounds kinda nice, I do like how straightforward the song is in its simplicity, but it's not really, anything amazing either. Btw...this chick is famous, yes? So...she probably has a million dollars, and she seems to be mocking people who have "a spare half a million" in this song...so...irony?Bro, your concept of what moderately-popular musicians make is WAY off.

Murr: "Its got a lovely garden / A garage for two cars to park in / Or a lot of room for storage, if you've just got one..." I imagine a little sneer as the real estate agent says, "if you've just got one". I love how languid and soothing this is, while being so cheeky. "If you've got a spare half a million, you could knock it down and start rebuilding". Like, if someone was only listening to this passively, and they were kind of an idiot, you could imagine someone listening to this and thinking she's just imagining a life with her dream house, or some little bit of middling Americana (Australianicana?). I'm surprised no one sent "Pedestrian at Best", with the very overt, "gimme all your money and I'll make some origami, honey" - alas, Cherry would probably hate that song. Anyway, this is great.



Dana
Ten Years After - I'd Love To Change The World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqAQwIKo_ok


Cherry: This is an optimistic song title. I like this song a lot...it's just really like...fitting and relate-able for when you care but like...at the same time are too apathetic to do anything about it. "I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do...so I leave it up to you." I like the different vocal styles in this song too, how his voice gets like...I don't know how to describe it, but kind of like a cool, hollow sound. The instruments are great. I think this is what Murr likes to call cock rock, so that probably means he won't like this, but whatever, I do. Great choice.

Murr: I love how, while possibly a protest song, this is so cynical while also being hopeful. So much of the song is more or less just him reciting trite slogans and condemnations, from both the right and the left, with an open ended, "I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do - so, I'll leave it up to you". As though it's more a message about the saturation of slogans, the saturation of media polarization, and the conclusion just being that it's all meaningless... but still with a desire for positive change despite feeling trapped and helpless by that meaningless saturation. Also, I love how the chorus takes a few steps back, all soft and reverby, then the rest of the song rocks out. Kind of makes the chorus that much more poignant... and the screaming part at the end is just fantastic.


Tom
Courtney Barnett - Dead Fox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njb3JTZ1ibY


Cherry: Foxes are adorable, how dare you go killing them, Courtney, you bitch. Lolz Australia is so *beep* weird, just the idea of KANGAROOS BEING ROADKILL, LIKE SERS, WTF. I like this one better than the other one by her actually. It has that mix of like...upbeat music, but with bleak lyrics, which is usually kind of a cool test for whether a person listens to a song, or just kinda goes THIS IS MY JAM and dances to the musically oblivious to a single lyric of the song itself. Anyway, I will grudgingly admit that I liked this, haha.

Murr: More Courtney. <3 I think this was the first song of hers that I heard, too. I love how it starts off just rambling about her girlfriend insisting they buy organic vegetables, then sort of this tangent. To be fair, I assume Courtney Barnett does opt for organic vegetables, and I know she's vegetarian - but I love how she also kind of mocks the "mindfulness" of it. I feel like she's my kindred spirit for that alone. heh. The Jackson Pollock reference is great in context, too. Also, it's true - more people do die on the road than from sharks. You're also 42 times (adjusted for respective populations) more likely to be attacked by a human than by a dog of any breed, btw - and in America, you're statistically more likely to be killed by a toddler than by a terrorist (I figured those sound relevant, right?). tbf, some places do have salad sandwiches (effectively). Anyway, another great song. This round is solid so far!


Neil
Roger Waters - Amused to Death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSBawXaoT4


Cherry:WOW THIS SONG TITLE LOOKS FAMILIAR, WHERE HAVE I HEARD IT BEFORE? I should dock points for this BLATANT kissing of Murr's ass. But I won't, because like...when someone sends his precious little "easter eggs" that means we don't have to hear him pouting about how no one sent them <3. He will inevitably find something else to pout about but still! Oh, the song is starting and I just realized this is the Pink Floyd guy. I don't know how I feel about this. I think I like it...but I don't know, some parts seem a bit slow I guess, but the song as a whole is pretty cool. I like it more as it goes on, too. ALSO, I AM IN THE BEST MOOD RIGHT NOW, OBVIOUSLY. I JUDGED THE FIRST THREE SONGS DURING HALFTIME, BUT NOW MY TEAM WON, SO, BEST DAY EVER.

Murr: Like young teenagers do, I went through a Pink Floyd phase. Tons of their songs would've worked for this theme - I was kinda hoping "Not Now, John" would be sent. But THIS song... this song is special to me. I must've listened to this on repeat for a week straight when I first heard it. Even at 14, I saw some weird truth in this and it probably helped shape my political/social/commercial views more than a song should. I love how eventually it sounds so epic and almost celebratory - irony in the musical arrangement itself. "No thoughts to think, no tears to cry..." I love the sense of desperation... "doctor, doctor - what is wrong with me?" Not to mention the subtle reference to Floyd's first (and best) album, Piper At the Gates of Dawn. Oh, here it comes... "We watched the tragedy unfold; we did as we were told, we bought and sold - it was the greatest show on Earth, but then it was over..." There's such an urgency to this. Kind of sad that now Waters is charging $300+ for tickets. Everyone becomes a hypocrite when they're old - well, not everyone... there are a rare, special few who don't. Now the end, when it gets all dreamy and you hear those heartbreaking interviews... This song was released 25 years ago, and truer today than it was then (though still very true back then). Kind of sad. Still, a beautiful song - yes, it fits the theme perfectly (hell, the theme was named after it), but there's also a softness and compassion to it that illuminates it all. Beautiful.


Pete
Barry Mcguire - Eve of destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddfz2ncSPdY


Cherry: Old school. This guy seems Dylanesque. This song seems timeless...I mean...the eve of destruction totally seems applicable to the world right now. T.ears. Listening to this for a second time.

Murr: AMG, it's San Francisco! OK, well it was... Classic song, of course - definitely political... not sure it's *quite* political in the way this theme asks for, but there are enough elements to make it count. The last verse in particular goes through some little social norms turned mindf-isms as though they're this barrier, which was basically the intent of this theme, more than protest. Anyway, yeah. Classic song, solid pick.


10B is a-comin'. Stay tuned...

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Do you seeing that thing swimming round and round? Maybe we could reaching in and make it drown...

10B: President Gas

Jesse
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - OHIO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68g76j9VBvM


Cherry: What if there actually was a President named Gas? Do you think anyone has that name? Anyway, I've heard this song before, I like it. It mentions Nixon, but it's really more about Kent State than it is actually about Nixon though. But it's obviously a political song, so close enough.

Murr: So, the inspiration for this theme was actually the Psychedelic Furs' "President Gas", but considering its '80sness, you guys may have been smart to not send it. heh. Classic song - controversial song for the putting it on Nixon. Not one of my favorites, by any means, but it's definitely good. The guitar sound here - kind of that mix of overdrive and fuzz, so it's not really like either but has elements of both - is beautiful.


Dana
Million Dollar Loan - Death Cab For Cutie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHHug-JhsVY


Cherry: I haven't heard this yet, I don't really listen to much new Death Cab, I'm one of those terrible people who are all "Oh, I liked this band 10 years ago, they have gone downhill since" but some of their newer songs are good, I just don't really listen to them much. Ben Gibbard always has a great voice though. And this rings true, a rich daddy will get you so many places in life. Not that I know from personal experience obviously, but that's probably a good thing.

Murr: Cherry got really excited when she saw this. She's a much bigger Death Cab fan than I am... they're alright. Some good songs here and there. Nothing I really hate, but mostly forgettable to me. This definitely falls into the mostly forgettable category. Kind of impressive a major artist already got around to writing a song very directly about Trump, though. Hm, we might need to do a call-out song theme. Anyway, it's alright.


Incubus - Megalomaniac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuZhnNR6vzc


Cherry: Murr hates these kinds of bands, kids! He will yell at you for sending this! Um...idk, this was a song. Nothing about it stood out to me, but I didn't hate it either. Just kind of there.

Murr: I hate this era of rock music. Truly. That was Eric's demise, bro. It kind of pains me that YOU sent this, too. Hopefully Cherry likes it a lot. Actually, it's not awful - Incubus had a little something more going on for them than Linkin Park or whatever crap. Something a little more '90s alternative, hacky-sack crunchies combined with Tool or something. There is something engaging about this, even if I'm not crazy about it. Actually, I like the "you're no Jesus / you're no Elvis" part. Overall... actually not awful, but pretty meh.


Neil
Ramones - My Brain Is Hanging Upside Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlMhDfHsfDI


Cherry: Sometimes I feel like my brain is upside down too. I only know a handful of Ramones songs, and this isn't one of them. I'm not in the mood for judging these types of songs at the moment, but there are only a couple left, so I can plow through it, obviously. I don't know. This is okay. This theme isn't my cup of tea and none of the artists I like who have songs that fit were submitted.

Murr: Easily the best song of this theme. Funny how this round has one great theme and one mediocre one. You guys are weird. In a rare twist in events, I'm not even sure what he's singing half the time in this, but I kind of like that... "Shouldn't wish you happiness, wish her the very best fifty thousand dollar dress" - funny, this easily could've worked for either theme. Well played there! I've never been that crazy about the Ramones, but I suddenly want to listen to them. Great pick.


Pete
Violent Femmes- Old Mother Reagan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Pd7J6XBPY


Cherry: This band is usually pretty good when I hear them. Wait wtf, is this song only like 30 seconds? Haha. THIS WAS LITERALLY SHORT AND SWEET. NICE CHOICE.

Murr: Lolz. I like the Violent Femmes, but this definitely isn't one of my favorites. "Old mother Reagan went to heaven, but at the pearly gates she was stopped". Nice. I like the irreverence, makes me lol a bit. But far from my favorite of the round.


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My mom practically lives on the stuff.

How would my submission of The Gun Song from the BRC of Assassins have gone down in Amused to Death? https://youtu.be/jo-Wdyxk_68?t=52s

"A passionate celibacy is all that any of us can look forward to."

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How would my submission of The Gun Song from the BRC of Assassins have gone down in Amused to Death? https://youtu.be/jo-Wdyxk_68?t=52s


lolz. Probably not very well.

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I wouldn't have been stupid enough to do that, really. That singing is terrible, and the lyrics are too on-the-nose (Assassins has some good stuff, but this song isn't among them). Don't know what I would have gone with, though.

"A passionate celibacy is all that any of us can look forward to."

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Omg I love assassins the music is great.

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So, here are the results. Everyone did well in the first theme, but then everyone took a bit of a hit in the second theme. With a score of 32.5 (19 + 13.5), I would like to introduce Neil to the winner's circle! Congrats, and great job! THE BULL IS ON THE LOOSE; DON'T GET IMPALED, PEOPLE!

And the rest...

30.5 (17 + 13.5) Dana
29 (15 + 14) Jesse
28.5 (15 + 13.5) Pete


Which means, in perhaps the biggest upset of the game yet, with a score of 27 (17 + 10), Tom... you are eliminated. I'm really bummed about this. Throughout the game, you've been gaining momentum, and I figured you the favorite to win. Alas, you're gone. The Nightman cometh to steal Dayman's light. Thanks for playing!

Cherry will post your next themes shortly.

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At once I knew I was not magnificent

Round Eleven Themes

Theme 11A: In the Aeroplane Over the Sea Sometimes, when you're lucky, MERMICORNS CAN BE VIEWED WHEN YOU ARE FLYING IN THE AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA. Coincidentally, that is also the title of one of the top 10 greatest albums of all time! So for this theme, you will be submitting a song off of this album. Mermicorn yay! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Aeroplane_Over_the_Sea

Theme 11B: Bright Eyes, 2002 or earlier For this theme, you will be sending a favorite band of both Mermicorns and Murrcher! However, due to the fact that this band has an extensive discography and any time I do a theme pertaining to it the same songs get sent, we are making you guys branch out into older territory. It will be fun! And there are many songs Murr and I will both love, so dig deep.

Theme 11C: Misunderstood Meanings Like mermicorns are often misunderstood, so are songs. For this theme you will be submitting a song that the general public (you know, idiots ) typically falsely interpret. Example, something widely known as a "love song" but is really about stalkery obsession. Or like the song Electric Avenue, which is about an actual riot, but people put it on their AMG 80'S DANCE PARTY playlists.

Have fun, send songs to me in the next 24 hours.


At once I knew I was not magnificent

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...and then there were 4.

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Round Eleven Results!

In the Aeroplane Over the Sea

Pete
Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD6_QXwKesU

Murr: One of the better songs on the album, definitely. I feel bad for whoever sent Two-Headed Boy, though... Also, no one sent "King of Carrot Flowers Pt 1", which I'M PRETTY SURE EVERY TIME CHERRY DOES THIS THEME, WHICH IS IN EVERY GAME, I COMMENT THAT IT'S MY FAVORITE SONG ON THE ALBUM. Like, you know Cherry is gonna give all of these a great score, so you all should've kept me in mind. ME ME ME ME!!! Anyway! Anyway, some lines here and there are pretty... about Anna's ghost and whatnot. Kinda works how they just have the acoustic guitar so pumped up that it's clipping/kinda distorted. Etc, etc, etc... It's good.

Cher: We start off the round with a song that is literally one of my favorite songs in the entire world. I admit I have judged this one before several times, I kinda make it known that I love it and then people send it to me for various themes, but who cares, I will never complain about having to listen to this. Like...most of the time when I listen to this song and it ends, I press replay and listen to it like, 3 more times. Like...this is one of those rare songs where like, I CAN FEEL IT WHEN I LISTEN TO IT. I don’t know, if I was Murr I’d be better with words and have some DRIVING THROUGH NOWHERE or HOME WITH MY DOG, HIGH AS A KITE story, but I don’t. Although I do have several stories about this song involving ROB NATION that I can share. One, once I was on a skype call with him and Javi and for whatever reason he decided to rap thing song. The other time was when he was visiting me and we were driving to Chicago and he made this playlist that was literally all THE BLOODHOUND GANG AND DIE ANTWOORD, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT MAN, but he threw this song on there for me <3 Anywayyy, this song is love and loss and death and all that, but without being super cheesy, AND THE MUSIC. HORNS AND *beep* AWESOME. Plus, Murr even likes this one, so great job there. Can’t believe how strange it is to be anything at all.


Jesse
Neutral Milk Hotel - Communist Daughter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDSzfpomRFA

Murr: Oh, I actually completely forgot about this song, tbh... But it's actually one of the best songs on the album. "With cocoa leaves along the border, sweetness sings from every corner..." Lovely line. "Proves that she must still exist, she moves herself about her fist..." Another great one. I also love how the lo-fi noise her actually works and adds to the song - kind of wooshing sound/feeling. His voice is also more tolerable than normal here. Best of the theme!

Cher: I’m really excited you picked this one. I’ve had a couple different themes in my games where people had to/had the option of sending different Neutral Milk Hotel songs, and no one has ever sent this one, so judging it for the first time, yay! I sent it in a game once for a song 2 minutes and under theme though. Anyway, this song is epic just for the SEMEN STAINS THE MOUNTAIN TOPS line, but seriously even if you look past that lulztastic lyric, it’s still an amazing song. “And wanting something warm and moving, bends towards herself the soothing, proves that she must still exist, she moves herself about her fist” like...that’s just kinda beautiful. Great choice.


Dana
Neutral Milk Hotel - Holland 1945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLaFLztnL84

Murr: More clipping, but done intentionally/kinda works. I love some of the lyrics here - no less because when I was 13 and first read her "Diary", I had a huge crush on Anne Frank (I was weird, I guess). Good enough song, but not mindblowing. Sorry, Cherry.

Cher: I really wish you had picked Oh Comely or King of Carrot Flowers instead of this one. I do like this song, but I don’t know...I guess like, I like it, but don’t love it. And for some reason I don’t understand, this is the most popular song with people who are not massive fans of this band. I DON’T GET IT. Everyone always sends this song, haha. Anyway...it is good. It’s about Anne Frank, and I do love how like...Jeff Mangum just has this like, intense adoration for her that he like...writes her love songs, 50 years after her death. Like...that’s just really cool to think about, albeit slightly disturbing. Also, it sounds like something Murr would do. Speaking of Murr, this song also has major chaotic noise, so I am sure he loves it for that reason alone.


Neil
Neutral Milk Hotel - Two-Headed Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudLjZ_4VhU

Murr: This song gets sent every time Cherry does this theme, and I always comment that I'm really not crazy about it. So-so songwriting, and nothing all that chaotic to make it more interesting. Also, the melody kind of bugs me for some reason. It's not awful, it's not like you sent Linkin Park or something. But I've never been crazy about this song, and listening to it in every one of Cherry's games hasn't helped.

Cher: People have submitted this one a couple times before, too. It’s also one of my favorites. Like okay...one of the things I like most about this album is how like...the songs on it are up for so many different interpretations, like they seem to be about multiple things at once, and they are like...things that don’t even necessarily seem to go together. Like this song, it’s called two headed boy and it always just gives me this image of this boy who is like...essentially for lack of better words, a “circus freak” but then it dives into his life aside from it, it’s like...weaving in and out between this boy and like...love and sex. Like...literally, this whole verse:
“Two headed boy
With pulleys and weights
Creating a radio played just for two
In the parlor with a moon across her face
And through the music he sweetly displays
Silver speakers that sparkle all day
Made for his lover who's floating and choking with her hands across her face
And in the dark we will take off our clothes
And they'll be placing fingers through the notches in your spine”
Maybe it’s just my interpretation, but yeah, it’s just weird and haunting and beautiful at the same time.




At once I knew I was not magnificent

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Bright eyes - 2002 or earlier

Pete
Bright Eyes- The Difference in the Shades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWCAOMEIyaY

Murr: I do love "Letting Off the Happiness..." but this is far from one of the best songs on it. "If Winter Ends", "Touch"... so many great songs. Oooo, "Tereza and Tomas" - legit one of my favorite Bright Eyes songs ever, and I was hoping it would get sent. "Saturday As Usual", "False Advertising", <3 "Lila", "Sunrise, Sunset" <3... Meh, this is good, though. And definitely a weird pick, which would suggest you actually listened to some songs. "And this TV's old, the color's *beep* do you see the difference in the shades? / But the green is still close to green, my love / And I believe we are the same". Love that line. Good pick.

Cher: I haven’t listened to this song that much, so it’s kind of a fun choice for that reason. It has that classic Conor sound...I love how he just kind of goes back and forth between singing and yelling. Anyway...difference in shades, it’s just like...things get old and fade, the color isn’t the same anymore, but you can still tell the color it was/supposed to be. This song is cool, it kind of has a ghostly thing to it “And the outline of the one you loved in a life that was, that no longer be stands above you as you sleep.” Love it.


Jesse
Bright Eyes - Something Vague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqGqWRgNE70

Murr: Love the *beep* out of this song. Not just pre-2002, but one of my favorite Bright Eyes songs ever. I love how, though it's so depressive, there's are these little glimpses of remembering/imagining something beautiful... that "something vague". "There's a dream in my brain that just won't go away... And I'm standing on a bridge, in the town where I lived, as a kid, with my mom and my brothers..." Then the whole bridge part, which is lovely. "And I hang like a star, fckin' glow in the dark..." <3 <3 <3 So good. Soooo good! "But now, I'm confused - is this death really you? And do these dreams have any meaning? No no no - I think it's more like a ghost that's been following us both; something vague that we're not seeing...". YES! I love how this addresses this idea of memory, kind of exalting and questioning those memories. Amazing song.

Cher: You are dominating this round, bro. Murr and I both love this song, it’s actually one of the ones we discussed when I was posting the themes, so it’s awesome that someone sent it. My favorite Bright Eyes album is “I’m Wide Awake, It’s Morning” which makes it funny that I banned it for the round, but I really wanted a chance to judge some other songs. This album, “Fevers and Mirrors” might be my second favorite. Anyway...I want to quote my favorite part like I often do, except...my favorite part is literally the second half of the song lolz. Whatever, the lyrics are beautiful, so I will post them anyway:
“There's a dream in my brain that just won't go away.
It's been stuck there since it came a few nights ago
And I'm standing on a bridge in the town where I lived
As a kid with my mom and my brothers.
And then the bridge disappears and I'm standing on air
With nothing holding me.
And I hang like a star, *beep* glow in the dark,
For all those starving eyes to see,
Like the ones we've wished on.
But now I'm confused. Is this death really you?
And do these dreams have any meaning?
No. No, I think it's more like a ghost that's been following us both.
Something vague that we're not seeing,
Something more like a feeling.” <3 love so much.



Dana
Bright Eyes - Center of the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylxjMHhXw_E

Murr: Also a great song. One of Conor's more refined for the era... like, yes, it's Conor - but as much of a mess as he could be, someone else could've easily written/recorded this song. The sand metaphor is lovely... how they're all sand, on a beach. Deep, man. And it even has a sort rocking out moment, which is always good. And one of Conor's most brilliant moments... "this isn't happening, happening, happening... IT IS!!!" I'm guessing this was Conor's attempt to write a Cursive song. heh. Really, I love this. I can't give it as high a score as "Something Vague", but still very high!

Cher: Another Fevers and Mirrors song. It’s actually weird, I never noticed before but there are some similarities to this song and Four Winds, this one about a statue of the girl at the center of the world, and then in Four Winds it mentions a mural of a girl standing at the edge of the world, just kind of similar imagery, which is cool. That’s kind of where the similarities end though, this song is really bleak, CONOR’S TEEN ANGST period lolz, but it’s still a good song. “We are far less than we knew” <3


Neil
Bright Eyes - Lover I Don't Have to Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXkhE0VMcw

Murr: I think part of the intent of this theme was to stop people from choosing the "obvious" picks... and you found the one obvious pick from the era. Lolz. It's a good enough song, but... meh. Lyrically, this is kind of cliche - when people think "emo", this is more or less what they think of. When people who don't listen to Conor think of him, this is probably what they imagine all of his lyrics being like... "emo", kind of whiny, fatalistic, very little actual depth. He dabbled in this semi-electronic songs since "A Collection of Songs..." - I whined to Cherry that "Digital Ash In a Digital Urn" wasn't available for this theme, when he really perfected it. "But lyffs naw stryuhbook..." Meh. It's alright. You had to know that since Cherry and I are both longtime Bright Eyes fans that going for the big hit (relatively) probably wouldn't pay off, though.

Cher: I’m kind of surprised that none of you sent “Let’s Not *beep* Ourselves” since it was eligible for this theme, and Murr mentioned it last round and how he was disappointed no one sent it. That would have been an easy way to get a perfect score! Anyway, of all the songs eligible for this theme, I am pretty sure this is hands down the most popular/well known one, but I doubt you knew that lol. I love the opening music for this song a lot, actually the music throughout the whole thing is good, and kind of different from most of their songs, which may be why you picked it. I am surprised you sent this though, just because it doesn’t seem like a very Neil-like song lol, can’t picture you getting super drunk, looking for drugs, and then having meaningless anonymous sex. OR MAYBE THERE IS A DARK SIDE OF THE BULL WE DON’T KNOW ABOUT. Anyway, this song is classic, and it’s perfect sometimes for when you’re just in a certain sort of mood. “Some sad singers, they just play tragic” and “I need some meaning I can memorize, the kind I have always seems to slip my mind” <3



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Misunderstood Meanings

Pete
The Beatles - Ticket to Ride (Very few people are aware that this song was written as a homage to the prostitutes in Hamburg. The Beatles toured there in 61 and 62, playing in The Red Star Club, in the seedy district of Hamburg. These ladies basically carried a note from the doctor (a clean bill of health, if you like), certifying that they were "good to go", hence the "ticket to ride" ('ride' is a british slang word for sex) )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70-WSgZn1MQ

Murr: Funny enough, I've heard a few interpretations of this song over the years. One of them (Cherry sent along your explanations, btw) is what Lennon himself said, being about prostitutes. I've also heard it's about abortion, a girl going to Ryde to get an illegal abortion during a time when abortions were illegal in the UK (I think they only legalized them in the '60s) - that the song is about a girl leaving her abusive boyfriend ("she oughta think twice, she oughta do right by me" can sound kind of threatening, no? And living with him is bringing her down) and getting the embryo/fetus aborted. Regardless, I have no clue about the historicity of any of that/if Ryde was really an abortion hotbed. The prostitute explanation seems equally probable. Both would be very different than a girl just leaving, though - and with so many interpretations, one is bound to be a misinterpretation. ANYWAY... one of my favorite earlier Beatles songs, and probably in my top 10 (at least 15) Beatles songs of all time. Would've preferred the studio version, but maybe that's not on Youtube. Great pick.

Cher: Hahaha I definitely did not know what this was about. I mean I did kind of assume it was about sex, but I just kind of assumed it was normal sex, picking up chicks or whatever. No idea it was about finding clean prostitutes, that...kinda makes me like it more, hahaha. Lolz at you informing us that ride is a British slang word for sex...I THINK MOST PEOPLE CAN FIGURE OUT THAT MUCH, PETE


Jesse
Melanie - Mr. Tamborine Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LwyOSyWpNg

Murr: YES! My favorite version of this song/Melanie's voice is incredible and haunting and beautiful. Funny enough, no one interprets this song at face value, so saying it's "misinterpreted" is a vague distinction. Most people assume it's about drugs, probably perpetuated by the movie Dangerous Minds (where she talks about it being street code for drugs... lolz). I think Dylan himself has cited Arthur Rimbaud (perhaps my favorite poet, and one of Bob's favorites, too) as an influence for this, and there are a number of Rimbaud theories out there - even some lines here and there that mirror Rimbaud's description of a "Sleepwalker" - this idea of someone who's mind exists outside of society, by only "kindness and charity" (i.e. purity), who doesn't participate in society (doesn't work, etc...) but whose very existence, living life in a dream-like state untarnished by commerce or politics or social norms, can change the world. Which is interesting, as this marked a change from Dylan's protest song era - a very conscious change. What I think this song is, based on that, is just freedom... sorrow and happiness and love and hate all in one state of being - a state of perpetual creation and existence outside of every fake construct... or at least a longing for that - "in the jingle jangle morning, I'll come following". Which is just beautiful... this very abstract state of existence - not just a feeling, but a state of being, and searching for that - ready for it. Ready to go anywhere (also mirrors Rimbaud's most famous sleepwalker verse). "Take me, disappearing, down the smoke rings of my mind, through the foggy winds of time, down past the frightened leaves and the lifeless frozen trees / Way down to the windy beach, far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow / I want to dance beneath a diamond sky with on hand waving free... with all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves..." Amazing. Truly amazing. And nobody knows where she's going to...

Cher: I’m kind of surprised you opted for a cover song for this theme, but you explained to me that you like her and you have talked about her with Murr and he likes her as well, so I guess that makes sense. You were the only one who didn’t include an explanation with your song, but I have heard various theories about this. Is it about drugs? Is it something else, honestly, I don’t even know. It’s more like a mystery than anything else, haha. Regardless of drugs or not, it does have really cool, surreal dreamy imagery, and her voice suits the song really well, it’s kind of hypnotizing. Which just makes me think more of the song being about drugs, but who knows haha.


Dana
Wonderful Tonight - Eric Clapton (People think this is a beautiful love song, they even use it for weddings. But it was written by Eric for his then wife Patti, their marriage was fading and he was telling her you were wonderful, tonight, referencing her charade in public that their marriage was fine. He was going through some big problems.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxAiUq8yn34

Murr: Ha! Read the description - really didn't know that. That's kind of funny. I've never been big on Clapton, but my aunt loves him, so I've sometimes tried, but I just can't. Not a bad song at all. Ha, looked up the lyrics... it literally ends with him being so drunk (or whatever else he was on...) he can't get himself to bed, and he bids her goodnight. Wow. Lolz, nice. Not crazy about the song, but this reveal is making me chuckle. And it's an alright song.

Cher: I actually did just think this was a straightforward love song, and I have always liked it, even though it did seem kind of cheesy. I’m fascinated hearing what it’s actually about, and now I am listening to it for the first time knowing the actual meaning. It’s really bittersweet, and the music actually fits the real meaning behind the song well. I do love how his songs are just such pure, simple seeming lyrics, but the guitar always just adds a layer of emotion to them.


Neil
Counting Crows - Mr. Jones (it's about his dinky)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuHVZ_-b868

Murr:
Lolz. It's not about his "dinky". It really is about what it sounds like it's about: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1925/in-the-counting-crows-song-is-mr-jones-the-singers-penis Kind of just this cluster of thoughts and dreams and things you wish you could do - and moments of inspiration and trust in yourself vs. moments of feeling helpless and insecure, and the potential hollowness of that ("when everybody loves me, I will never be lonely"). That said, if people misinterpret it to be about his dick, I guess that's a misinterpretation. "And we all want something beautiful - man, I wish I was beautiful". Who is Maria, btw? Cherry, do you know? He mentions her a fair amount. "'Cause I wanna be someone who believes..." I love that line. I feel like rock music of the era so generally so much the opposite, and this declaration of wanting to believe in something - it made this song feel so different and special for its time. I love the bit about the gray guitar, too - this depressive "gray is my favorite color", and that insecurity then turned into something of power. Great song - not about his dick, though.


Cher: Lolz so you sent me this song, with that explanation, and my reaction was kind of WTF because I love this song and have listened to it a zillion times and it being about his penis never occurred to me. Mr. Jones being an imaginary friend I could see, but his penis, like lolz wtf. Anyway, so I mentioned to Murr as I was sending the songs, and he did some research, and like...this is NOT in fact about Adam Duritz’s penis. However, apparently it’s like...a common theory that the song is about his penis, and he disputed said theory in an interview. So...your song still fits, just not for the reason you thought, haha. Actuality, this song is about his buddy Jones. Anyway, I like this song a lot, and the whole album that it’s on is great, as well as their lesser known but completely fantastic non-album song that shares the album title. “Believe in me, help me believe in anything, because I want to be someone who believes” <3




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Scores!


(18 + 20 + 18) 56 Jesse! Great job, 56/60 is really impressive

(17 + 16 + 17) 50 Pete!

(14 + 15.5 + 18.5) 48 Neil


MURRCHERLIMINATED: (15 + 18.5 + 13.5) Dana We're sorry to see you go, you did really well, making it to the final four in a difficult game like this is impressive, and it was a close round overall. Thank you so much for playing!



I will post the final three stuff shortly, kids. Discussing a couple things with Murr.


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Final Three Theme

Congratulations on final three, guys! As you will see, I am posting this theme instead of Murr. That's because the theme is my idea, and also, because Murr wants to be the one to post the finale.

Round Twelve Theme: Full Albums For this theme you will be submitting a full album. Last season we made it specific for concept albums, this season we are extending it to any album, but there are a few rules:

1. You must submit it in the form of a single link, either the entire album uploaded as one long video, or else in the form of a playlist with all of the songs in order. Both are easy to find on youtube for many albums.

2. No submitting any of the three albums that were sent last season (Father John Misty - I Love You Honeybear, Sufjan Stevens - Carrie and Lowell, Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick)

3. No submitting an album that contains a song that was previously submitted this season

4. The album must have at least 8 songs on it

5. Must be an original album, no like BEST OF or TOP HITS albums, regardless of if they were released by the band itself. In addition, the album must all be one band, no compilations.



That's it. The only other thing I want to say is please do not troll us. Murr and I devote a lot of our own personal time into this game, and there are many people who have been eliminated already who would have loved to be able to submit for this theme, so please don't use this as a chance to troll Murr and I by sending something you know we will both hate.


Send your albums to me, INCLUDE A TRACK LISTING I will give you guys a bit longer than usual, you can have 36 hours. Submissions due Thursday afternoon 12:30 CCT


Have fun and good luck!


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Awk Dana. Soeey to see you go. You did great!

Was the trolling thing aimed at me? Lol you no likey Spice Girls? Haha I sent mine. Dunno if it will even be allowed. I don't know what's been sent this game . Anyway, I don't know if either of the other two have sent, but I'm not using Murr's cheat this time. I think it should have stopped at F5. I'm not proud of using it before but I'm not using it at F3. If either of the other two do, fair enough, but I don't want to progress any further that way.

Funny thing is, I was considering that band anyway, looked at the album that song was on and another, THEN checked his profile for the cheat and couldn't believe what I saw so I decided to go with something else completely as first choice.

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lolz, that's not an Easter Egg. I was listening and put that up day or so ago. I wouldn't recommend sending that album, anyway, considering it's a double album (and not even my favorite album by them).

Cherry and I wanted to leave this fairly open-ended and see what you kids come up with, so there is no Easter Egg this round. That said, Cherry and I have both mentioned albums we love many times in Idol history. There was a brief phase on this board where everyone kept sending songs from one of my favorite albums when they realized I'd score them all well. You guys should have a sense of what we like and don't like... do with that what you will.

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Oh ok, that's a relief . This is when not paying attention costs me . Meh, I haven't got a clue what you people like lol, some weird indie stuff or something lmao. I'm happy with the bronze! Pete will do well at this. He always remembers what people like.

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Send what you like and what you think we'd like. Don't throw it, though. The rules this time are largely because last season, David sent a Jethro Tull album, "Thick as a Brick", which is all 1 song (sort of) in an attempt to throw the competition, and Cherry and I basically said, "you couldn't try to throw it when we only had to listen to one or two songs, bro?"

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Neil you made it this far you clearly know what they like.

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Why did he try to throw it? I'm not throwing, I sent what I thought was best, with the little idea I have lol. It's a proper album at least

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It's David, why does he do anything haha. He just loves getting me riled up!

Btw not that they are really intended as Easter Eggs since I do them even when there are no games, but I always have song lyrics as my signature, and as my skype header thing, and no one ever checks that, except Murr once.


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Was he disgruntled with something? The only time I threw was in the final of Mark storm of swords game. It was me, JB and "Natlanie" and I had protested all game at this pair being allowed to play together, Nat being good enough on his own, nevermind having an assistant lol. I only made the final due to some cock up with RTF. I forget, so I wasn't even a deserving finalist. Every song I picked had "two" in the title . It takes two, two heads are better than one, just the two of us etc etc haha. Some decent tunes but nothing that would win the game. That was my final protest! They won, of course.

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Again, it's David! He likes doing things his own way. I think he just didn't expect to make final three and said *beep* it.

What he sent wasn't BAD, I kinda liked it...but like when you pick the theme CONCEPT ALBUMS and are really excited about it...it kinda sucks when someone picks an album that's all one song lolz.


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What's a concept album?

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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConceptAlbum

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Neil how do you not know what a concept Album is?

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Thanks Martin lol. Do you know who Travis is now?

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Travis? What are you talking about?

"A passionate celibacy is all that any of us can look forward to."

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He had a thread. I don't see it now, guess it was deleted. You recognised each other but weren't sure why. You played together in s49.

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Oh, I thought you were talking about a musician.

I didn't see his reply to me at all, and I don't really recall him. I was utter crap in that game.

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So what's the craic with this album theme? Are you going to judge each song and then total it up or somehow judge it as a whole?

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We judge and score each song individually. If the albums are all the same amount of songs that's awesome, if they aren't we will do averages.


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But albums build. Even if the songs don't all share a central theme, placement of songs is very important.

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Murr and I listen to the whole albums, in full, in order. But the songs themselves still get scored individually.


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You're going to judge 40+ songs???? What the.... Well I'm glad I made it to be a part of this lol. I only wish I had a better idea what to send.

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37 songs. And yes. Murr and I are dedicated...lolz did you really think I was making you send an album and we weren't going to listen to the full thing?


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Cherry just told me you were gonna send "Siamese Dream" then didn't. I'm gonna figure out what you sent then score it all 1 just to spite you for not sending "Siamese Dream".

And Martin - I actually agree. The album, as a format, is in itself as important as the songs themselves (there's a difference between a great album vs. a great random collection of songs). I think last season I suggested we also do an overall/flow score. I forget why that was shot down. Ugh.

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Mur...we didn't. We scored the songs as is last season. You never suggested anything else otherwise xoxo.


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I did suggest it! I think we just decided it would be too nebulous a score or something. idk.
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