Philosophy : When does life begin?

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That was a cute enough song.

I was looking around for other songs with the word "life" in the title. I came across this one, "Life is Life", which I had never heard of before, so I listened to it. Very emotional! It reminded me of the songs Jake the Muss and Beth liked listening to in "Once Were Warriors".

Evidently this was an international hit back in 1983.



"My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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And, then, boom!

IT'S ALIVE!



"My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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That baby creature Rick Baker designed, was a creative horror revelation.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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I didn't know that. Very effective-looking monster baby.

Baker is very talented. I just looked him up. He has won 7 Oscars for Best Makeup.

"My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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He is! I believe he's the one who did the work on America Werewolf…

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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Yes. That's right. Baker got his first Oscar for AAWIL. I liked that movie.

I liked "The Howling" even more!

"My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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I haven't seen that one

AAWIL bring to mind this



If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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I remember that commercial so vividly! What a catchy jingle!

David Naughton moved well.

"My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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He sure did

I used to have a thing for his brother James



If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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I can’t get into The Howling. It’s the weirdness and characters that don’t connect or gel with me. The werewolves look cool, but there is something about it that I find a bit off.

I adore Dante’s Piranha and Gremlins though.

I rate American Werewolf in my top 20 horrors.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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I like Dee Wallace and, especially, Belinda Balaski in the movie.

I thought "Gremlins" was pretty good and I love "Piranha".

"My life is over. I might as well dance with Johnny Slash!"

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The cast was interesting, just the film and scenario wasn’t exciting or fun enough for me. AAWIL I found delivered this in spades.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Oy

I don't know about some people and their crazy imaginations

Half human, half what? Eagle? Vulture?

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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Science knows.
How does science normally define any other terrestrial lifeform? I am pretty sure they nailed it down when attempting to determine if viruses were actually considered lifeforms.

Beware the sound of one hand clapping.

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It’s a social and political question. Life isn’t something science knows about.

So says @magneticmonopole

Cheerio.

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MagneticMonopole is the authority on science. He says the word often enough.

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Magnetic Monopole thinks "science" is the authority on everything. If a person in a white coat, with a degree, says something, it's an incontestable fact.

We shouldn't question science, even though inquiry is actually the fundamental ethos of the scientific method.

Check my block list because you're probably on it.

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He says science has no authority on matters of life. Life is a subjectivity defined social construct.

Cheerio.

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He has no thoughts of his own. Every post he's ever authored is a mindless appeal to authority. He has opted to be led around by his leash.

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No one gives a shit what micropole thinks.

Beware the sound of one hand clapping.

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It’s a social and political question. Life isn’t something science knows about.

So says @magneticmonopole

Only the tiniest, mentally weakest of persons needs to lie. You don't even possess a concept of what a good faith argument is, do you?

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I’m paraphrasing you, oh mighty monopole.

Cheerio.

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You tiny, unscientific man.

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I’m paraphrasing you, oh mighty monopole.

No, you're lying. Honestly engaging with the points I've actually made would require intelligent thought, of which you are utterly incapable.

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Life isn’t something science knows about.

Everything's just a process. Life is a concept. Society's a mirage and sex is a prison

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Brilliant

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I do what I can



it's very little

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Happy Mother's Day! You have 7 kids?

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It's actually 20 now! And thank you!! Tis a good day. I hope you're having a good one too

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Everything's just a process. Life is a concept. Society's a mirage and sex is a prison


Couldn't have said it any better myself. How is "life" defined objectively? Its all illusion and even delusion for many.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Isn’t it society that’s the prison and sex is a glimpse at freedom from it? One forces you to hold back your emotions while the other encourages the opposite

Cheerio.

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I think we would all be better off to live by YOLO

Missed opportunities isn't what life should be about. Life should be about living it to the fullest

Not by taking unnecessary risks, but by not being afraid of the unknown or what you think at this moment in time that you have all the time in the world

It's not promised to any of us… we do have to be true to ourselves, though, no matter what

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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Yeah but the tao of YOLO can be dangerous. The more risk you take the likelier something bad wil happen. Maybe a snapping turtle bites off your dick when you go streaking.

Cheerio.

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What a braggart… like your dick is dragging on the ground for a turtle to bite

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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Doesn’t everyone’s?

Cheerio.

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You must wear a 32 long in skivvies

If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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Is it at the point of conception?
if life begins at conception, then any intentional action which prevents conception is morally/ethically/legally wrong and therefore punishable if laws so prescribe.

wanna use a condom to prevent spread of STD? or jerk-off in the shower or bust your nut in some bitche's ass or mouth? congrats because you just destroyed a fundamental human good:potentially conceiving.

if you're sterile or she's incapable, then by all means have a jizz-spraying party all you want. BUT if conception is possible then anything other than procreative sex is impermissible. This is what the final endgame is: the ultimate political irony as the party of "limited" government controls what you can do with your body, when you can do it, and to whom.

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Not to mention the distorted and ignorant notion that sex is just for procreation.

Politics can darn well stay out of the bedroom and the womb.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Or is it when you turn 40? Nobody knows.



I hadn't read your first post and had already posted the song to Cheeks…

Scientific fact, what we perceive as life, does not technically begin until the first breath of air is taken and the human being birthed becomes sentient. One can't argue with universal rule/law.

Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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Life *literally* begins at conception, factually. No, it sounds like I'm expressing a personal viewpoint since it's so cliche to hear that now, but it literally does. It's living, hence life.

Here's how to win every pro-life argument.

Stick with facts. You don't need to use your personal views.

1) What is "it" at conception? A human. A zygote is of the human species. Something doesn't become a different species in its lifespan.

2) Don't use terms like "child" and "baby." These are terms that refer specifically to born humans between certain ages. Use terms like human, zygote and fetus.

3) Don't use the term "murderer" which refers specifically to killing that is against the law. Use the term "killer". Abortion is literally killing of a life form that is present.

4) Instead of "baby killer" opt for "zygote killer" or "fetus killer." This in no way diminishes the argument: a zygote, fetus, is no less important as a human life than a toddler, they're just different stages of a lifespan.

So if a pro-choicer says to you, "it's not a baby, it's a fetus!" You say, "Yeah, so? And?

5) Don't use religion, it makes you look retarded. "God created each life blah blah blah…" It's not necessary, you already have literal biology and facts on your side to win the argument.

Summary:

He/She's human since the sperm fertilises the egg. Fact. The disagreement is WHEN this human life matters.

Since we cannot determine "when human lives matter" by any objective scientific data, and it is impossible to do so, and when we say "when the heart has its first beat, at the first breath, at the first trimester," without completely making it up, we must assume err on the side of caution, i.e. give the benefit of the doubt that, Constitution applies to all humans, unborn and born, and that all human have the same inherent value and are applicable under the same human rights.

Monster, how should I feel? Creatures lie here, looking through the window.

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I'm not all Asian nor all European.

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Life begins when Vlad ejaculates his dark Sith sperm,which is rich in midiclorians,across the vast distance of space.

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A lot of life is beginning, then

Cheerio.

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It doesn't.

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Maybe, he's talking about something else.

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