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Re: Most Christians are stupid and uneducated about the bible and Jesus

This I can not argue with. Most really are. Satan has been hard at work to deceive the world. Just look at what he has done to you.

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What kind of things are most Christians getting wrong?

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Jesus was born on the 26th!

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Jesus was most likely born during the jewish Feast of Tabernacles. Thus the odd phrasing of John 1:14

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How does John 1:14 relate to that?

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John 1:14 TLV
And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us. We looked upon His glory, the glory of the one and only from the Father, full of grace and truth.

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A tabernacle is just a makeshift movable structure used as a temple or church. I'm sure you've heard of the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

That verse has nothing to do with the celebration called the Feast of Tabernacles. It's just generally speaking about attending temple services. It tells us nothing about which day Jesus was born.

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Wrong.
"And the Word became flesh"
The Bible make it clear that the Word of God IS God. What is also clear is that only God can pay the debt of sin which is death. So the only way to save us is for God to die. Thus Jesus.

Pay ATTENTION. The Word does not say tabernacle. It says tabernacled. intransitive verb. : to take up temporary residence especially : to inhabit a physical body.

That is the specific meaning of the original text which leads one to ask why such an unusual word choice was made to describe the incarnation of God's avatar. Also of note is the fact that many of the acts of God were heavy on symbolism. He either did or ordered things done on certain days to commemorate important events in Hebrew culture These days were celebrated with various feasts.

It is therefore not only logical to deduce that Jesus was born on one of these important days in keeping with the pattern but also that since John who knew Jesus and would have known to date of His birth would have been inspired to use the most accurate term possible to describe the event.

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Even if you want to interpret it symbolically, "tabernacled" means as you said, that Jesus inhabited a physical body.

But it has nothing to do with the Feast of Tabernacles.

The Hebrews were nomads in the OT. They worshiped in a tabernacle because they didn't always have permanent temples. The Feast of the Tabernacles wasn't the only time they used tabernacles.

That verse has nothing to do with Jesus's birthday.

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They worshiped in a tabernacle because they didn't always have permanent temples.

You are mentally stuck on the building. it has nothing to do with the building. Forget the building. Most of the major events in the Bible centered around the Feast days. It is perfectly logical to conclude that God would have arranged the Birth to occur on one of those feast days.

http://www.gatewayanabaptistchurch.com/2017/11/13/was-the-birth-of-christ-during-the-feast-of-tabernacles/

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I'm not convinced.

And if Jesus was born in summer, what are we gonna do with Santa Claus?

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I don't give 2 shits about Santa Claus. The evidence points where the evidence points.

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Evidence.

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Yes jackass. Evidence. Fools like you like to pretend that there is no such evidence or claim that it doesn't exist. The truth is that not only is there evidence but much of it is the SAME evidence the the opposition uses for their own positions.
Case in point; The fossil record
Are you going to argue that the fossil record doesn't exist? Thought not. It is evidence. Only difference is HOW THE EVIDENCE IS INTERPRETED.
A creationist will argue that it is evidence of the Biblical Great Flood
An evolutionist will argue that it is evidence of evolution and millions of years time.

Funny thing. Even evolutionists admit that flood conditions create the best conditions for fossilization. One side may say local flash flood while the other say global event but they do agree on that much.

So yes there IS evidence. You may not agree on interpretation but only a fool denies its existence.

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Don’t win arguments win souls

Why are you so obsessed with me?

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Marilynmonroe said... Don’t win arguments win souls
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That is the correct attitude.

However.
I am not going to fight to lead the horse to water when I already know it will refuse to drink.

Poisondragon is willfully ignorant. If God wants to save that soul He will have to send someone else.

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Soul_Venom said... That is the correct attitude.

However.
I am not going to fight to lead the horse to water when I already know it will refuse to drink.

Poisondragon is willfully ignorant. If God wants to save that soul He will have to send someone else.
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But you I mean all you can do is prayer for him and focus on your own walk with God

Why are you so obsessed with me?

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Marilynmonroe said... But you I mean all you can do is prayer for him and focus on your own walk with God
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Your biggest struggle is mental illness.
Mine is this:
Jesus said to love one another as He loves us.

I don't even like most people much less love them as I ought. Fact is I actively dislike MORE than a few. In some ways you might be better off than I.

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The relative claims about fossil evidence are not on equal ground. Scientists have it correct, whereas creationists do not - they are only attempting to validate their religious beliefs. And they're doing it poorly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance

But we're not discussing the fossil record, or evolution; we're discussing two fictional characters: Jesus Christ and Santa Claus.

There's no valid evidence for the existence of Jesus.

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PoisonedDragon said... The relative claims about fossil evidence are not on equal ground. Scientists have it correct, whereas creationists do not - they are only attempting to validate their religious beliefs. And they're doing it poorly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance

But we're not discussing the fossil record, or evolution; we're discussing two fictional characters: Jesus Christ and Santa Claus.

There's no valid evidence for the existence of Jesus.
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Far wiser men then you have concluded otherwise.

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Correct.

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Lilith said... Well it's nice to see you show your face around these parts again.
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Thank you.

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Monicah🦋 said... I doubt you remember me but I remember you from original IMDb. You were the first poster I spoken to on the RFS board ☺️ You’re a favorite 😍
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Was that at the RFS board, or its antecedent, 'The Pit' ('The Passion of the Christ' board)?

I distantly recall something like your name. Did we get along, or did we quarrel? I certainly quarreled with Rachel24, who was constantly trying to get my posts deleted.

However, your name never turned up by 2010, when I was compiling the 'Alumni of the Pit' thread. Did you leave for a while during those years?

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Monicah🦋 said... It was the RFS board which I came to in early 2016 until the site closed. I was never on before that so I guess I wasnt on that long lol. you were actually my favorite member there. :) I went there because for the first time i questioned my faith and really didnt want to be christian anymore and i remember my first conversation was with you and you helped me with seeing things in a different perspective but one I needed.

i went by the name monicaxoxo and from what i rememeber we got along. pretty sure we only had a few debates but mainly never argued lol. i typically argued with extremists. but identified as agnostic atheist near the end. my beliefs constantly change though. Sometimes i think ther could be a God, but not a christian one. I definitely moved on from christianity a long time ago lol
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I am happy to have been of help.

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I like the Bible cuz it’s heavy. It sure kills them flies good, missy!

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