Philosophy : When it happens…

When it happens…

You'll feel like an islander
You'll see ships and they'll be reminders
That you're on an island

And that I'm on an island

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Re: When it happens…

Interesting piece. What's the relevance for you, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm thinking of the future state of civilization, when AI monitoring of all our online and offline activity has essentially put an end to "emotional" communication for fear of cancellation or even arrest.

1984 captured the emptiness so well. This poem feels like it's telling me the same thing.

R. I. P. FFS (1975-2021)
Murdered by a Teutonic catfish

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Just for the record - I didn't write this. These are lyrics from an old Idlewild song. I've just amended the last line to better suit what I think the meaning is. The meaning I take from it has nothing to do with what the song means. The song itself isn't even a good song to me.

It's paradoxical in meaning, to me. Which is why I like it. Paradoxes highlight the fallacies in our rationale.

I think it represents the notion that there are no more breakthrough philosophical revelations for us to have as a species. What is thought now has already been thought before.

I like yours too though.

Alba gu bràth

Re: When it happens…

I think it represents the notion that there are no more breakthrough philosophical revelations for us to have as a species. What is thought now has already been thought before.
Oh, yes definitely. The ancient Greeks already thought it all. I'd wager, somebody before them did too, but history didn't record it.

R. I. P. FFS (1975-2021)
Murdered by a Teutonic catfish

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How can you doubt it's probable? That means you think it's improbable, at a time when it's almost upon us!

I think you're using hope, not logic. The future I've just described isn't just probable, it's inevitable. It can only be held at bay temporarily. Sooner or later, an idiot like Biden will come along and set off a chain reaction that will push us past the point of no return.

If humanity wanted to avoid this future, it would already have put an end to censorship, social media, and communism. Instead, it's asking for more of those things, not less.

People are idiots.

R. I. P. FFS (1975-2021)
Murdered by a Teutonic catfish

Re: When it happens…

I think Brave New World captured it better than 1984. We don't live like downtrodden proles. We have a surfeit of material objects, media, drugs and sex. And that's how they control us.

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I think both were right. There are two means of control in action today. You cannot deny the Big Brother concept, not anymore. It's been realized.

By the way, to save us doing this dance again, I'm Ulysses.

We've had this discussion already, in this thread.

https://filmboards.com/board/p/20074574/permalink/#p20074574

R. I. P. FFS (1975-2021)
Murdered by a Teutonic catfish

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Okay, and sorry if I repeat myself. One of my recurring themes is Brave New World vs 1984.

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Well, you didn't know that was me, so you weren't to know you'd be repeating yourself!

I think, whatever our view, be it BNW is happening, or 1984 is happening, or both are happening at the same time, the sad reality is, therefore, at least one of those dystopias is happening, and nobody seems able to stop it.

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Murdered by a Teutonic catfish

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Let's hope to God you're right.

Just clamping down on big tech censorship alone would help me sleep at night. Why are we not putting that fire out immediately?

I went on Twitter a while back, and spent a grand total of three days there. I followed a bunch of right wing accounts, including Trump, who was still president at the time. Within three days, while being extremely careful about all what I said, simply using logic and rhetoric to hold well meaning discussions, I was banned. Any hint of an argument and I retreated from the conversation, yet still I was banned. Banned for not agreeing with left wing ideology.

It's frightening how one sided the conversation is now, and how far left and irrational that one side has become.

This isn't people rising up, this is the system manipulating people into giving it more power over them.

R. I. P. FFS (1975-2021)
Murdered by a Teutonic catfish

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Yeah, I'm thinking of moving to Europe too.



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Murdered by a Teutonic catfish
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