Film Art and Cinematography : Where do you draw YOUR line in movies…

Where do you draw YOUR line in movies…

What do you think filmmakers should never show in movies?

I have absolutely zero problem with violence against women. Women are adults and many are terrible people. So, you can show me violence against women in movies and it's perfectly fine by me.

Where I draw my line: violence against children. Fiction or not, I don't care. There should be a moral dilemma and showing child cruelty is totally tasteless, depraved and not entertaining. I have a few exceptions, in cases where it's necessary for the plot. But usually, I avoid it.

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Why would anyone answer you?
You put people down for simply not liking what you like.

Look! I don't have a problem with you not liking certain movies. I get that.

When you say that someone is a moron when they like something that you don't, I have no interest in sharing my opinions with you.

Women are adults and many are terrible people.

It must be sad to be you. We are through. I draw my line with you.

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It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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Women are adults and many are terrible people.

So… There's no such thing as a bad person if the said person is woman? Having a female reproductive organ automatically makes you a great person? All righty then!

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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You are using backwards logic. It's doesn't stand to reason that you can go from one extreme to the other to make your point.

Also, your logic that since some women are terrible people, you're okay with violence toward them in films.

Some children are terrible people, too. See how that works?

That's a zinger!

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I just made a post where I clarified everything at the bottom of the page.

I pretty much made that point.

Some children are terrible people, too. See how that works?

Even though I see your point, children (under, let's say, 12 years old) don't have enough judgement to really realize and understand the gravity of their actions, adults do.

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Even though I see your point, children (under, let's say, 12 years old) don't have enough judgement to really realize and understand the gravity of their actions
Wrong, kemosabe. I don't want to see violence toward children in films either, but you don't have much experience with them irl if you don't believe they can be mean, nasty little demons at times.

You should know this if you went to school!

That's a zinger!

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if you don't believe they can be mean, nasty little demons at times

Of course they are, I was among those children unfortunately. It seemed like it was the only way to fit in at the school where I went.

But then, we grow up and realize how freaking stupid and uncalled for our actions and words were. Of course, not everyone has this realization. But I did, and I know many people who did as well.

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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So you understood the gravity of your actions, but you didn't deserve being tortured with cigarette burns or having your head split open with an axe. And you don't want to see it in a film.

You and I are on the same page, mate. 👍

That's a zinger!

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They let you leave the mental institution again? 😲

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Two days to come up with this counter? Wow, you sure showed me this time! 😁

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Having a female reproductive organ automatically makes you a great person? All righty then!

What the HELL does that have to do with anything???
I do have to wonder why you felt the need to bring that up. Are you feeling somewhat inadequate?

Fasten Your Seatbelts….
It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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They can show what they like. I don't have to watch it.

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You’re a fuckin pansy.

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If a film has child cruelty as a theme then it's always going to be necessary for the plot surely?

“I didn't know you could read”

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I believe that TaRaNRoD has a few screws loose…

Fasten Your Seatbelts….
It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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I have absolutely zero problem with violence against women. Women are adults and many are terrible people. So, you can show me violence against women in movies and it's perfectly fine by me.

A tad troubling

“I didn't know you could read”

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I have seen some of his other posts. There are a few shorts in his connections.

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It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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When did you become a psychiatrist?

The only poster who had his account banned 4 times without ever breaking any rules each of those times.

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A tad troubling

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"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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I have absolutely zero problem with violence against women. Women are adults and many are terrible people. So, you can show me violence against women in movies and it's perfectly fine by me.

They are your words. You have zero problem with violence against women.

“I didn't know you could read”

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Great, smart-ass. Because of people like you who like to make assumptions, I just wrote a post where I clarified myself at the bottom of the page. 🙄

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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I'm not making assumptions, they are your words matey. Try telling them to a woman who regularly gets 7 shades of shit beaten out of her by her partner.

I've got no intention of reading you dig a deeper hole for yourself.

“I didn't know you could read”

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Try telling them to a woman who regularly gets 7 shades of shit beaten out of her by her partner.

…. Why the fuck do you even bring up a real-life example while I was talking about FICTION?

Of course I don't condone this, dumbass.

Fine, since you obviously have the reading skills of a 7 years old and the attention span of a redfish, I'll summarize my post in one simple sentence:

"I don't appreciate violence against either men or women in movies when it's gratuitous and too gruesome, but (like most people actually) can also find violence entertaining in FICTION, no matter if it's against men or women."

The fact that you didn't get the fact that I was talking SOLELY about fiction (or you purposely ignore it in an attempt to piss me off), even though it was quite clear in the title of my post, makes me think that you have the IQ of a squirrel.

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Keep Shoveling….
Maybe you'll make it to China…





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It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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Name calling? Always a great way to take the moral high ground


Why the fuck do you even bring up a real-life example while I was talking about FICTION?

You used your real life opinion of women to inform your fictional taste in violence in film didn't you?

And then more insults? The only one behaving like a child is you.

“I didn't know you could read”

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Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😼

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Cuck_Venom watches child porn

that is way over the line

I crushed the pathetic loser troll Cuck_Venom and rebuilt him as my toilet

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When a film shows full frontal nudity of Men. That's just uncalled for.

The only poster who had his account banned 4 times without ever breaking any rules each of those times.

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I look down when there's like any violence. I do follow sword fights.

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Double anal.

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It seems that there is no reason to show sexual penatration below the belt that I can think of… But anything else goes, possibly, depending on the context movie???

It's really hard to say as everything seems to be a cast by case basis in terms of context.

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Wow, the irony here. On one hand, people keep saying that "people should be able to make the difference between reality and fiction"… And then insinuate that I have mental issues because I do make the difference and don't have trouble handling violence against women.

Another irony: so people want equality for women (especially women themselves)… Then, seeing women and men as equal when it comes to violence in FICTION, isn't fine. I am all for women's rights and equality, don't get me wrong. But then, don't complain if I put violence against women at the same level as violence against men.

Now that I said that, I admit that I might have came off as a misogynistic asshole (or even as somewhat of a psycho) and might have not expressed myself properly here:

I have absolutely zero problem with violence against women. Women are adults and many are terrible people. So, you can show me violence against women in movies and it's perfectly fine by me.

So let me rephrase and explain my stand more clearly.

It's always about how the violence is presented. In a Tarantino movie, violence is generally more entertaining and even funny in his movies. I've seen all his movies and I honestly don't think that there's really a violent scene that can be very called "disturbing" in his movies (we can argue about the slaves being murdered in Django, but even then there isn't much shown). With that pointed out, just think about how women are just as likely to be killed as men. In this case, I just don't make a difference between two. Let's also point out that, usually, the characters who die in his movies aren't really good people to begin with.

HOWEVER, I don't always appreciate violence in movies, especially when it's completely gratuitous. In the fact is: I won't enjoy it no matter if the character is male or female. Period. I have a hard time handling rape scenes (usually involving women), but I don't appreciate seeing men suffering from, for instance, painful torture either.

Bottom line: it's all a question of context, atmosphere and presentation. I just don't think that seeing a woman die is worse (or is it even supposed to be) than seeing a man die. I despise every Saw movies, except from the first one, and think that the violence is disgusting toward men and women equally.

So, no, I don't get a hard on from seeing a woman get raped, tortured and killed on screen. I hate when people take words out of context and give the message their own meaning. 🙄

In conclusion, both @MissMargoChanning and @The Real Dazed, get off your high horses. And MissMargo, get off my back from what I wrote a week ago in totally irrelevant posts because I had a quite shitty event happening to me in my personal life, so I pretty much acted and wrote out of frustration.

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Okay so here, on FilmBoards, recognizing that you made a mistake because you didn't express yourself in an adequate manner, that you should had shown more restraint in your phrasing and should had been more clear in your statement is met with contempt… Great environment!

There is such a thing as a "mistake", "self-examination" and simply "bad wording", you know? 🙄

I reread my post, realized that I clearly used a poor choice of words to express myself and tried to explain myself better… Result = I get shit on even more than after my OP…

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Did you just fall off the turnip truck, Elmer???
You have been a member of the Filmboards Family since July 31st, 2020.
You started off wrong with me from the start, acting all butt hurt because I mentioned that your idol isn't exactly my cup of tea.
If you are going to cry each time you feel misunderstood, this may not be the place for you.
Try growing a pair…

Fasten Your Seatbelts….
It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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Literally nothing of what you just said is even remotely relevant to the point I tried to make… 🙄

As for the wrong start, I think I already apologized about that. If I didn't, well here you go: I'm sorry. Can you move the fuck on already?

Btw, I had a quite shitty welcome on this website by the paranoid retard named Lara Croft. Then I scrolled through the boards, and on the first glance, everyone seemed to be jerks to eachothers. So, for some reason, without trying to justify myself or pretending that I did the right thing, decided that the best way to break the ice was to be a jerk as well.

Of course, after speaking with some people, I realized that it wasn't SO bad and tried to redeem myself.

Honestly, you can continue to constantly be on my back if you want, I'm kinda used to it.

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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There is no line. A good example is "Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom" about a group of Italian fascists torturing children. It's an important movie which needed to be made. Yet it's disgusting and I wanted to see it once. And I'm glad I saw it. But I will never endure it again. So there really is no line as long as it's fake and not real violence.



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Yeah, I have to see that movie. It's in my list since I first had knowledge of this movie in a list of most disturbing films.

I've seen some of the movies which were on the list, and tried others but didn't finish. I actually didn't really enjoyed most of them, and watched them more as a "dare" because of their shock value.

However, this and Cannibal Holocaust (which I am a HUGE fan of) both stand out because of one aspect: they actually have a relevant message. Well, I didn't see Salo yet, but read plenty to know. So, I will probably appreciate it more than, let's say, Nykromantik (which was in the same list and I thought it was simply unpleasant, depraved/sick and quite gross).

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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Well, like I said on Salo, I am very jaded, but that movie made me sick. It was excruciating to sit through. But even though I thought it repulsive and it crossed every line - I mean every line! - it was still an important work which needed to be made.

I would only draw a line if real violence was committed to film the movie. But I suppose any abomination can be shown on film as long as it is just acting and special effects.

Uh, look man. Make tool! Caveman. No fool!
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I would only draw a line if real violence was committed to film the movie.

I take it that you're not a fan of Cannibal Holocaust?! 😅

And, yeah, I heard about how daring Salo is. I'm mentally prepared for it. Just reading some people describe some scenes was uncomfortable. But, hey, I've seen A Serbian Film so… I guess I had a good training with this one lol.

"You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti
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