Arrival : Is IMDB compromised?
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This is a terrible movie nothing at all clever about it just a total borefest a 3 rating is 3 too high
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Rehams, I agree. Thanks be to gawd I'm not the only one who saw the Emperor wasn't wearing any clothes. What a disappointing yawn fest.
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I did view the thing objectively, in fact I really liked Dennis Villeneuve and his other films but this was a lot of self importance signifying nothing and that ending was so contrived and like 'eh". I couldn't believe everybody giving this such great scores.
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Rehams,
I definitely see where you're coming from when you ask if IMDb is compromised. I've seen so many movies lately that have been awful, and I come on here to look up an actor or something, all I see is high ratings and praise on message boards. There is absolutely an element of the emperor's new clothes.
"I maintain this is a film, like Inception, made to make average intellects feel bright because they can give a step by step explanation of a weak plot ("wait, why did that happen"), while I understood it was just a weak pace/plot/direction obscured by pseudo-art house style. "
Stated very well. I'm starting to believe that, in many cases, people are too scared to admit they didn't understand or didn't like a movie. It's all well and good to pat yourself on the back because *you* think you understand it, but that doesn't make the movie good in and of itself. I'm brave enough to say I haven't liked many-a-critically-acclaimed production. People seem to equate confusing with quality and depth.
I remember I got about a third of the way through Inception and I said to my friends, "well, someone sure majored in philosophy on Left Bank."
And everyone who wants to respond saying we're small or closed-minded can just save it. That's as silly as pretending to like a movie because you're a lemming.
I definitely see where you're coming from when you ask if IMDb is compromised. I've seen so many movies lately that have been awful, and I come on here to look up an actor or something, all I see is high ratings and praise on message boards. There is absolutely an element of the emperor's new clothes.
"I maintain this is a film, like Inception, made to make average intellects feel bright because they can give a step by step explanation of a weak plot ("wait, why did that happen"), while I understood it was just a weak pace/plot/direction obscured by pseudo-art house style. "
Stated very well. I'm starting to believe that, in many cases, people are too scared to admit they didn't understand or didn't like a movie. It's all well and good to pat yourself on the back because *you* think you understand it, but that doesn't make the movie good in and of itself. I'm brave enough to say I haven't liked many-a-critically-acclaimed production. People seem to equate confusing with quality and depth.
I remember I got about a third of the way through Inception and I said to my friends, "well, someone sure majored in philosophy on Left Bank."
And everyone who wants to respond saying we're small or closed-minded can just save it. That's as silly as pretending to like a movie because you're a lemming.
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Yeah people are afraid to say they didn't like something. I'm sure thats it. lol
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exactly the rating i put too! 1 point up from the stupid and pointless fantastic four reboot. downright pointless and forgetable movie.
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thanks, watched the first 30seconds of this, then stopped watching, and your post confirms exactly what i thought this movie would be stylized, single mother saves the world, been there, done that tired story hollywood movie bs
and you're right, imdb ratings are way, way off
and you're right, imdb ratings are way, way off
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stylized, single mother saves the world
The funny thing is, that is not at all what happens in the movie. You are making assumptions and drawing conclusions based on 30 seconds? Why do you hate films so much?
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Loves movies, just after watching the first luvey duvey, 30 seconds of her having kid, playing with said kid, blah blah blah this just looked like another interstellar, all fancy camerawork and no substance
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kennymac,
I think it fair to say how often you give films poor ratings numbers, that 3 is an above average rating. You really see that many ones? How about reading about films before you go see them, and maybe you can weed out the ones you don't like. And some you do like?
Let's put it this way - you seem like a rather negative person.
I think it fair to say how often you give films poor ratings numbers, that 3 is an above average rating. You really see that many ones? How about reading about films before you go see them, and maybe you can weed out the ones you don't like. And some you do like?
Let's put it this way - you seem like a rather negative person.
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stylized, single mother saves the world
LOL Looks like someone didn't watch the movie. Or was too dumb to understand it.
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2016 was certainly the year of overrated movies on IMDB
La La Land topping it off in big style
so many movies, so little time
La La Land topping it off in big style
so many movies, so little time
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You seem kind of angry. Maybe you should get some therapy and then go see the movie again.
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"Mulder, toads just fell from the sky!"
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Yes. The rating of 8.3 is mind boggling.
I can never understand the cliche of humans thinking they're going to attack alien spaceships
In this case 12 of them, and human would win. They're the ones that could wipe us out first. Also
What was the rush to communicate since the ships were just hanging outbecause they couldn't
Communicate clearly the next stage would be to start attacking these ships. Then the plot started to change to
It being about her relationship. Aliens came from god knows how far to enlighten this one woman about her life.
what Jordie?
I can never understand the cliche of humans thinking they're going to attack alien spaceships
In this case 12 of them, and human would win. They're the ones that could wipe us out first. Also
What was the rush to communicate since the ships were just hanging outbecause they couldn't
Communicate clearly the next stage would be to start attacking these ships. Then the plot started to change to
It being about her relationship. Aliens came from god knows how far to enlighten this one woman about her life.
what Jordie?
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BOOOORING POS. Amy Adams? Can't stand her. Never could.
Kept falling asleep and having to rewind it, only to find out did not miss a thing. So I just deleted it.
Gotta agree with original post, possibly production company is paying for positive reviews for the piece of crap.
Remember,YOU TOO are entitled to MY opinion!
Kept falling asleep and having to rewind it, only to find out did not miss a thing. So I just deleted it.
Gotta agree with original post, possibly production company is paying for positive reviews for the piece of crap.
Remember,YOU TOO are entitled to MY opinion!
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Every time a new movie comes out they usually have an 8 or even more. As more people see the film over time it usually tends to go down some.
This is not one of the best movies of all time. It is similar to Close Encounters and The day the Earth Stood Still. But pretty enjoyable.
I think it's really more like a 6 or 7
This is not one of the best movies of all time. It is similar to Close Encounters and The day the Earth Stood Still. But pretty enjoyable.
I think it's really more like a 6 or 7
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I actually hated this film and, you know what, if aliens ever do come I'll be hiding somewhere terrified out of my mind. Everyone seemed so calm about the arrival of these objects!! Give over!!
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I gave Arrival 9/10, I thought Amy Adams did fantastic job with her nuanced character, the timely story was thought-provoking, screenwriting was intelligence and all the technical aspects from cinematography to sounds created great mysterious atmosphere. The only thing I didn't like was the ending that felt deus ex machina-like.
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I gave Arrival 9/10, I thought Amy Adams did fantastic job with her nuanced character, the timely story was thought-provoking, screenwriting was intelligence and all the technical aspects from cinematography to sounds created great mysterious atmosphere. The only thing I didn't like was the ending that felt deus ex machina-like.
Absolutely. As a fan of the Ted Chiang's award winning short story, "Story of Your Life" (2000), I've been waiting to see this adapted to film since Chiang started pitching it almost 10 years ago.
Of course, the story is remarkable. Having worked in marketing for the industry, film adaptations are considered legally separate entities to their source material hence authors tend to relinquish creative writes however Chiang fought hard to maintain as much as he could in working with Eric Heisserer. There were a few aspects to the film adaptation I didn't care for yet understood their necessity for drama and tension into the story. I didn't care for the Cold War era conflict nor the heavy handed ending. Chiang and Eric Heisserer differed on whether or not Louise has a choice. Chiang's story was much more reliant on fate, whereas Eric Heisserer decided choice was possible (i.e. Louise choosing to have her daughter knowing she will die as it is the journey of life, what we share, that is important and knowing how and when we/a loved one will die shouldn't change that decision as we all die, the specifics shouldn't negate life).
Adams spent a year working with linguists in training for her role and shaped her character from the numerous professionals who taught her, using the friendships she developed as part of her role. She intentionally chose subtly and simplicity, emphasizing her characters experience, knowledge, and more approachable appearance (she refused costume and makeup that would be out of character for her role). As with the short story, it improves the more you experience it. This deserves the praise and more.
Note: I highly recommend the short story, "Story of Your Life" (original film title until test audiences in Spring '16 claimed it was "confusing").
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I couldn't agree more. This movie is made to appeal to the progressive pseudo-intellectual market and it has apparently been successful with them or there are a lot of paid reviews. It was a an absolute turd. I gave it a 4/10 but it was a coin toss between that and a 3
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The problem you're experiencing is, you're stupid, and you're experiencing cognitive dissonance because your stupidity is not being reflected in popular culture with respect to this particular movie.
You just need to go watch more stupid movies. Most movies are stupid movies, so you shouldn't have a problem finding one. I recommend "Fast and Furious" 1-9.
You just need to go watch more stupid movies. Most movies are stupid movies, so you shouldn't have a problem finding one. I recommend "Fast and Furious" 1-9.
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i think one problem is you're not as intelligent as you think you are. this movie is far from deep and not particularly intelligent. i wonder if you actually read the story first to see how much they dumbed it down fore the movie. this movie only comes across as smart to this unintelligent. this is just the latest in the line of movies marketed as intelligent towards pseudo-intellectuals who then in turn prove they're unintelligent bigots by calling people who dislike it "stupid"
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snobbism
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I do hope you're a troll..
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You sound like you need help, some anger management and therapy. You act as if the producers making this movie hurt you personally with that last comment.
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I've seen a lot of award winning movies and Arrival isn't one of them. So, yeah I think that its rating is a bit too high to be honest. It's not even good for the future generations. I feel as though the movie will be forgotten in about two years.
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To answer your question, no I don't think IMDB is compromised per se, but the rating system certainly is.
Check the splits for pretty much any film and the majority of votes - usually around 50% of the total - come from one demographic - males aged 18-29. And overall males usually outvote females by a ratio of 5 to 1, often as high as 10 to 1.
Trust only your own tastes and opinions.
Never defend crap with 'It's just a movie'
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Check the splits for pretty much any film and the majority of votes - usually around 50% of the total - come from one demographic - males aged 18-29. And overall males usually outvote females by a ratio of 5 to 1, often as high as 10 to 1.
Trust only your own tastes and opinions.
Never defend crap with 'It's just a movie'
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It seems the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences disagree with you.
"I'm not arguing that with you. I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?"
"I'm not arguing that with you. I know he can get the job, but can he do the job?"
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Not everybody likes the same movies, just cause you dont like it doesnt mean 90% dont love the movie.
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The rating system has never worked because you have too many people who are like "this film is the best ever, amazing, wonderful blah blah blah" and rate it 10 only to never watch it again and you have haters that give it a 1 even though they actually feel it should be a 5 or 6, just to get the rating down.
Yes it should be something like a 6 or 7 IMO. The film's OK, watchable, some interesting stuff here and there, there's some boring cliche's too.
And I don't believe if a film's purpose is only to make money, win an Oscar or simply make crap and succeeds at it (sometimes all three at once), it should get a 10.
Just read both negative reviews and positive reviews and you usually get an idea. Don't look at the rating, it's information value is close to something like 0.083 ;-)
Yes it should be something like a 6 or 7 IMO. The film's OK, watchable, some interesting stuff here and there, there's some boring cliche's too.
And I don't believe if a film's purpose is only to make money, win an Oscar or simply make crap and succeeds at it (sometimes all three at once), it should get a 10.
Just read both negative reviews and positive reviews and you usually get an idea. Don't look at the rating, it's information value is close to something like 0.083 ;-)
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1/10
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The Oscar Academy must be compromised too since they just nominated it for 8 Oscars.
And Rottentomatoes? Must be compromised.
Metacritic? Obviously compromised.
Seriously speaking - OP thinks it's a conspiracy and is so fragile he can't accept others don't have 100% the same taste he has, so they must therefore be 100% wrong. My sarcastic comment as a reply to his insane belief the imdb is compromised is that the Academy, Rottentomates and Metacritic must be compromised too then. If so it's all a huge conspiracy.
But why listen to the artists of the Oscar Academy or professional movie critics who qualified for their jobs and have been doing it for years when we can listen to OP? (sarcasm)
And Rottentomatoes? Must be compromised.
Metacritic? Obviously compromised.
Seriously speaking - OP thinks it's a conspiracy and is so fragile he can't accept others don't have 100% the same taste he has, so they must therefore be 100% wrong. My sarcastic comment as a reply to his insane belief the imdb is compromised is that the Academy, Rottentomates and Metacritic must be compromised too then. If so it's all a huge conspiracy.
But why listen to the artists of the Oscar Academy or professional movie critics who qualified for their jobs and have been doing it for years when we can listen to OP? (sarcasm)
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This is basically what it comes down to.. It seems some people are unable to see or accept that there are people who like they things they don't like lol.
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You seem mad.
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http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131125-why-the-stupid-say-theyre-smart
simply who hates this movie just not smart enough to put together scenes..
if you don't believe me make an IQ test. but before it you should think about your number how smart you think you are.
simply who hates this movie just not smart enough to put together scenes..
if you don't believe me make an IQ test. but before it you should think about your number how smart you think you are.
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This movie has a good rating on IMDB - and on Rotten Tomatoes - because it is well rated by both the general public and by the critics. It is well rated by the general public and the critics because it is a good film. IMDB is not compromised, it hasn't been overrun by paid shills, and people are not rating the "message" instead of the film. The problem is that you are an uneducated, *beep* ignorant imbecile who knows nothing about movies and consequently you didn't understand Arrival and gave it the ridiculous rating of 3/10 as a result. Sorry to be so blunt but I find that morons like you are far too stupid to comprehend reasoned, logical arguments and being direct provides the best possibility of getting through your thick skull. I'm just trying to help, because the sooner you learn that you and your lack of intelligence are the problem, not everyone else, the sooner you can get some help, and some education, and start to understand things that you currently don't understand; though your lack of intelligence may limit how far you are able to get. I mean someone who is so incredibly stupid that they think of all sorts of ridiculous, implausible reasons for their opinion differing from the majority, without ever, even for the briefest moment, considering the probability that they themselves are the problem, is obviously of very low intelligence and is never going to be a bright intellectual spark. However you may get to the point where you don't embarrass yourself so badly in "public" any longer, so it will be worth all the effort it requires
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And another lost soul who lets politics affect everything they experience.
I noticed the jabs at right wing lunatics too, and I enjoyed them for sure, but even without those the story about language and communication with an entirely disconnected culture from ours is pure sci-fi and it was very well executed.
I noticed the jabs at right wing lunatics too, and I enjoyed them for sure, but even without those the story about language and communication with an entirely disconnected culture from ours is pure sci-fi and it was very well executed.
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Dumb is the new smart is the only way to rationalize the rating.
I gave it a 3 as well, just for the very basics but the plot insults my commonsense so much that I'll probably bring that down to a 1.
Seriously, this plot feels as if a bunch of fifth grade kids came up with it by the hour as it was being shot.
I thought Interstellar was bad but this redefines 'bad'.
I gave it a 3 as well, just for the very basics but the plot insults my commonsense so much that I'll probably bring that down to a 1.
Seriously, this plot feels as if a bunch of fifth grade kids came up with it by the hour as it was being shot.
I thought Interstellar was bad but this redefines 'bad'.
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Movie was legit awful. Solid 2/10. Of course IMBD is compromised, how stupid are people?
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Bau,
I went to your profile and did not see any film ratings. So maybe it's another of your handles where you gave this film a 2?
Or maybe you are a fan of another film that was Oscar nominated and just wanted to trash this nominee?
You certainly didn't bestow on us the basis for your insight of how awful this film is and why. A great loss for the rest of us.
I went to your profile and did not see any film ratings. So maybe it's another of your handles where you gave this film a 2?
Or maybe you are a fan of another film that was Oscar nominated and just wanted to trash this nominee?
You certainly didn't bestow on us the basis for your insight of how awful this film is and why. A great loss for the rest of us.
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I've watched directors previous films, was very exited to see this in cinema but when I came to realize that it has not much to offer other than boring drama I skipped.i was totally surprised why academy picks these types of boring sci-fi without any meaningful plot.aliens-1986, district 9, atleast had some guts.director should make a complete judgement before filming and should visualize in advance how audiences must be entertained.Just making a sci-fi movie without proper element doesn't work well.james Cameron, Nolan are good story writers they perfectly figure out everything before rushing.scifi movies requires lots of planning.
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skorp,
You were explicitly advised back on November 20th not to see this film because you said you only enjoyed sci-fi films that had a lot of explosions.
You have only yourself to blame for going ahead and seeing it and not enjoying it, given your rather cramped requirements.
Just a bomb explosion ? then what they are doing for 2 hours ? alien movies supposed have some actions otherwise it's just a waste of time.
Heh.
You were explicitly advised back on November 20th not to see this film because you said you only enjoyed sci-fi films that had a lot of explosions.
You have only yourself to blame for going ahead and seeing it and not enjoying it, given your rather cramped requirements.
Just a bomb explosion ? then what they are doing for 2 hours ? alien movies supposed have some actions otherwise it's just a waste of time.
Heh.
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I agree, the second half was garbage. It pretended to have a deeper meaning but it just didn't - no amount of violins can fix that.
It's not the worst movie but the hyperbolic ratings are ridiculous.
It's not the worst movie but the hyperbolic ratings are ridiculous.
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sturm,
Talk about hyperbolic ratings! You gave Bio-Dome a 10 when the average IMDb rating was 4.4. No wonder you are complaining!
How did Arrival not have the deeper meaning you thought it should have in the second half?
Talk about hyperbolic ratings! You gave Bio-Dome a 10 when the average IMDb rating was 4.4. No wonder you are complaining!
How did Arrival not have the deeper meaning you thought it should have in the second half?
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One of my friends got livid at me for not liking this, and he hasn't even seen it. Idiot.
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Many movie ratings on this site are boosted by shills.
Initially when a movie comes out they give free screeners, and then employ reviewers to rate the movie high.
Having said that this movie wasn't that bad, if a little boring a solid 6.5.
Initially when a movie comes out they give free screeners, and then employ reviewers to rate the movie high.
Having said that this movie wasn't that bad, if a little boring a solid 6.5.
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I gave this movie a 2.
A wanabe Space Odyssey. The poor attempts of visuals and abstract viewpoints to capture your imagination of something new and SciFi tantalizing lost orbit. There was so much how and what for or why they didn't try this.stopped counting. And goofs, give you onein her lecture room, no reflection or light from a large HDTV on her face.
I never comment IMDB, but seeing a 8.2 on this movie?!
Huh?
A wanabe Space Odyssey. The poor attempts of visuals and abstract viewpoints to capture your imagination of something new and SciFi tantalizing lost orbit. There was so much how and what for or why they didn't try this.stopped counting. And goofs, give you onein her lecture room, no reflection or light from a large HDTV on her face.
I never comment IMDB, but seeing a 8.2 on this movie?!
Huh?
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I came to say the same thing! this movie is TERRIBLE!
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Sorry but i could not help reflecting on the irony of your comment.
(And to be clear i agree :) )
You Sir, just went and banged your head against the wall ;)
* My God!.. Its Full of Stars! *