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Huxley to Orwell: My Hellish Vision of the Future is Better Than Yours

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Let's hope they're both wrong.

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Well, you'll be pleased to know the odds are they're both wrong.

Think about it. One of them must be wrong. And if one of them is wrong, but we don't know which, the 50% chance of our future resembling one of their visions must be shared between them. Therefore, there's only a 25% chance that either one of them is correct.

Add that to the fact that society at large has, for the better part of a century, been receiving their warnings, the odds must be reduced still. I don't know by how much, but surely it's very unlikely that from our current democratic, privileged position we'd be so foolish as to allow hard left governments to come to power in the West?

I liken books like these to vaccinations, immunizing us against the horrors of their prophecies.

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No, Huxley is so close it's frightening. We're already half way there. The world is not democratic. It's run by corporate globalists. Brave New World is full of wealth and technology. Now take your prescription drugs and STFU.

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Close doesn't get you the cigar.

If you don't want to have an intellectual discussion about this just say. Getting defensive from the get go just reminds the board that you're stupid.

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I was making a point about prescription drugs controlling the population. The details may be different. But it won't be a world of impoverished proles. We'll have all the luxuries of technology but still be under the control of a centralized bureaucracy.

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Re: Huxley to Orwell: My Hellish Vision of the Future is Better Than Yours

Ah…

I disagree for the simple reason that we've been alerted by Huxley to this potential version of dystopia.

I just don't think anybody ever has correctly predicted the future. The very act of making a prediction and sharing it with the world rules it out as a possibility. I appreciate that we (the US) are headed toward Huxley's vision, but we aren't the world, and there are emerging countries (and Europe) that are headed in a different direction. Not everybody is hooked on xanax.

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I'm more concerned about anti-depressants like Paxil and Prozac. There's no euphoria like with Xanax. But they change the structure of the brain.

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Fair enough, but my point still stands; the US might be hooked on prescription drugs, but that's not the case globally.

I think in other populous places like Brazil and India you could argue that's because of poverty, but Europe proves it's probably not a factor.

I think (hope) the problem is the power pharmaceuticals have here. It's unethical and hopefully there will be an assault on them soon. Obamacare wasn't the answer, but something like that, where they get neutered.

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Huxley wins this one. Perhaps if Soviet Union style communism had become dominant, Orwell's future would have been likely. But it will be Huxley's world - sex, drugs, technology which will enslave us.

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technology
AI, which I don't think either of them necessarily predicted.

I'm not sure that either vision will come true. The most likely outcome will be the one we haven't thought about.

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Both are well written

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The proles in 1984 were sedated and controlled like the people were in Brave New World.

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I think Huxley was more accurate; how easily people acquiesce to power. I think there would be resistance with "jack-boot policing", so they edge the line of tolerate behavior. When people conform and just go along with either X and/or Y, the power drunk become addicted and keep trying to get away with their objectives..

The Public Space now isn't the Town Square, its communication like Facebook, Twitter, etc.. If someone is banned, there is no other Twitter. I'm sure there are many who spent years trying to build the online audience (as opposed to the traditional), and the threat is enough for people to self-censor. Of course, they mention a few names that most people don't like, so the general population think "Oh well, its not ME".

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