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Re: What is your moral stance on plantations as tourist destinations?

Blah blah blah plantations I have Frankstein face blah blah blah.

Re: What is your moral stance on plantations as tourist destinations?

They're historical sites. Why would anyone object? We also have freedom of speech so if the guys in Mississippi want to revise history they're free to do so.

What I would like to see is federal reparations for slavery.

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Re: What is your moral stance on plantations as tourist destinations?

What I would like to see is federal reparations for slavery.

I don't think people who are long dead are going to have any use for compensations

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If someone stole your inheritance from your family before you were born, would you not want compensation? Theft by the federal government must be addressed.

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Well now, before we get to the descendents of slaves, how about your lot cough up for the Brits who missed out due to your war for Independence and the many casualties which arose from that?

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Approval by the U.S. federal government of the slavery of U.S citizens is something I want addressed. This is not about addressing every old grievance of one people against another. I want to hold my government accountable for violating our own Bill of Rights.

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It would get egregious to address every old grievance I agree.

However I'd say the most important aspect to look at would be the native peoples of America being displaced by Easterns looking to maraud their soils and rivers for their own greed (An offshoot of which is of course the African slave trade).

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The U.S. government has tried to address that problem. They created reservations. And they have paid reparations to the descendants of the Indians but not the black slaves.

But tribes have invaded and conquered other tribes throughout history. The difference with African-Americans is that the federal government violated its own Constitutional guarantees to it's citizens by enslaving them. The Indians were a conquered people, not American citizens with Bill of Rights protections.

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That's an interesting hot-take on the subject of the First Peoples.

Do you think their reparations have brought them happiness as a people or do you think it only alleviated the guilt of those who invaded their lands?

Do you not think that similar reparations to the descendants of slaves would have similar ramifications for those communities and for generations still to come?

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I do know that Indians can get a free college education and other aid from the feds. I'm not asking that African-Americans be given a check in the mail. Reparations would be in the form of college grants and low-interest business loans.

The fact is that the average African-American family income is half that of white families. Either African-Americans are lazy; or institutional racism and slavery are yokes on their backs which have never been lifted.

I'm not a racist and I do not believe that African-Americans are inherently lazy or inferior to whites. Slavery and its repercussions is the cause of their inferior status in this society to this day.

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Then we are in close alignment as to what solutions could be presented which would increase the quality of life for African-Americans at the lower end of the class caste.

If increases in education and healthcare were to be made and enrich those lives the irony is that those not receiving any 'benefits' (Whites of the lower end of the class caste) would be calling for a more socialist system which would better represent them.

Something they have been against since the abolition of legacy slavery within the US.

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You make a good point because white working class males are probably the most discriminated group economically now. Women and minorities have state mandated rules to ensure they are not left out.

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Which means reparations for the acts of yore would eventually benefit everyone who lives in the now.

The only question that remains is who pays for these reparations?

Everyone through tax or only those who are descended from slave owners?

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The issue is one of our government's violation of its citizens rights. As whites we benefit from slavery because of the wealth which propped up our white privilege. It's not only the slave holder's descendants who benefited. All white Americans did.

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I understand that concept, in absolute theory that would work perfectly but when scrutinised it falls apart very quickly.

The US requires immigrants to sustain its workforce and help provide taxes which benefit all. Those who arrived in the US after slavery was abolished and are ardent supporters of human rights would still also have to compensate for the actions of others which made that society so economically attractive to them?

That would include non-white immigrants I suppose.

What about those who married a descendent of a slave and had children to them, would they (And their descendants) also have to pay reparations?

How about the wider global benefits the US has brought; trade, technology, education, healthcare etc. - do those who benefitted from that society also have to pay reparations to the descendents which made their lives of a higher quality today?

To extrapolate this to its nth degree: Do those people in Sierra Leone who got all of that aid during the 2014 ebola outbreak have to pay reparations to the descendents of black slaves in the US?

If not, where do we draw the line?

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Actually, the American government gets its lions share of funding through taxation. Everyone pays taxes, black and white et al. So of course the descendants of slaves would contribute to the general reparations fund as well. That's how our system of income redistribution works.

I do know that when my Greek great parents stepped off the boat they were subjected to a certain amount of anti-immigrant discrimination. But they still fared better than African-Americans, the descendants of slaves, who were already here. Italian and Greek and Russian immigrants were not subject to Jim Crow laws, for example.

Again, I'm not suggesting every injustice of the past be corrected through reparations for ever conceivable offense. Reparations only deal with slavery because it was legitimized by the Constitution. Discrimination against Greek and Irish and Latin American and even Nigerian immigrants is not covered. Those are different issues. Such is life.

You treat this as if whites are being punished. That's like saying the children of the middle class in New York are punished when subsidies are given to poor farmers in the Appalachians. That's a bit of a red herring as an objection.

I'm not sure what Sierra Leone has to do with this.

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Some people who have come from the many generations since slavery have done very well for themselves and are not short of a penny. Do they get compensation too?

How does this money get divvied out and what about the next generation after those who accept compensation on their behalves prior to their births?

There will be people who throw their compensations into vices and yet continue to procreate and add to the larger population

How about a social welfare program which deals with those most directly affected by class inequalities with the idea of establishing healthcare, education and decent employment opportunities for all?

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So a social welfare project which enriches the lives of those living at the lower end of the class caste system then?

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I sit on the fence.

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Sure, why not?




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Re: What is your moral stance on plantations as tourist destinations?

It seems to me that you spend a lot of time trying figure out the proper way to think about subjects that don't really affect you.

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So you know former black slaves from the antebellum south?

Based on your response, it's not that you care about others, but that you care about fooling others into thinking you care about them.

Basically, psychopathic behavior.
Albeit a very ineffective psychopath.

Your best bet is to embrace it and find a mentor.

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It seems one reason for your ineffectiveness is that you seek out distraction.

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Yeah why not, for the historical purpose.

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I enjoy it. it turns me on to think of hundreds and hundreds of years of all the masters who owned those fields fuckin all those female slaves over and over and over.

knocking them up, making more slaves, and then when they are old enough doing the same thing to the next generation( unless they sold them to others)

And there is NOTHING the blacks today can ever do to change that. think of all those millions of times that happened throughout the years

Ahh the GOOD old days.
Must have been the LIFE as a plantation owner back then

If I ever get a time machine I am going back in time and start my own farm

Im totally okay with plantations as tourist attractions

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Laying it on a little thick there.

Not me, actually .. It was all those plantation owners….. they were the ones laying something THICK inside all those female slaves

OVER AND OVER AND OVER
for centuries. making more slaves for the fields…… selling them

making tons of money and living the life where you get to sleep with each of those female slaves … rutting again and again to make more babies an put more slaves out in the field



night after night after night



after night after night


ater night after night. EVERY NIGHT
doing that your entire life. and theres NOTHING the black thugs can ever do to change this LMFAO

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night after night after night

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over and over and over
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