True Detective : Most Overrated show on television?

Granted, I haven't seen season 2, but the consensus (not sure what it's worth, since it's the reason I trusted season 1 to be great) is that it's bad

True Detective (S1) is wonderful to look at, and it's acted well but the story is pretty lazy. Especially the ending of season 1. It's as if the writers either had a deadline or just decided to check out early. The ending was like something out of a kid's book (total cartoon character bad guy out of nowhere) while the build-up was fairly realisticalmost painfully so. (slow moving)

I just never felt any sort of suspense, and they stumbled across clues far too conveniently for my liking.

Just not understanding what people see in this one other than eye-candy from a cinematography stand-point. The fluid scene was awesome too, but that was about as intense as the show ever became and seemed out of place.

What am I missing?

"What am i missing?"

Good taste and a few *beep* braincells.

Dickish reply is dickish.

Anyone with braincells would realise the hack-job Pizalatto did with the plot in Season 1 toward the end.

A plot with mystery and hard boiled detective elements cannot survive on character examination alone. It just can't, and that's why True Detective is, by story engineering terms, an absolute flop.

Of course, the mainstream public lap it up because of the admittedly top notch direction job and acting performances. They literally have no clue they've been fed one of the most overhyped dramas in years. And you have the gall to talk about taste and brain cells.

Whoever said there was a law for a detective story to only be about the case? Newsflash, before the show even started it was already established that it would be about the detectives, not the case, the case is simply a plot device for pushing the main characters to the edge of their psyches and how far they will go to get the job done regardless of the outcome. That is what True Detective is, not some supposed twist you wanted to happen by season's end. The killer we got at the end, there are really people like that, they're just REALLY damn good at hiding it.

It is quite otherwise. The plot is minor for Detective stories. A monkey kills two women in a room is the plot of Poe's first detective story.

A good detective is about dialogue and the characters. Holmes and Watson are more memorable than all the plots or their cases (In fact, most of them are very ridiculous). Complex plot and twists was a latter development, a bit under cinema influence.

You pretty much reiterated what I said. True Detective, yes, is very much about dialogue and the characters (the very strength of the show).

I believe that is called an agreement ;)

I concur x)

is The Walking Dead

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The Walking Dead is getting to the point of being underrated. It had 1 bad season (Season 2) and it seems like people who stopped watching it just assumed the rest of the show continued to be at that level of quality.

Assuming you aren't watching it, because watching 6 seasons of something you think is terrible is idiotic, why would you make a random assumption that it got worse?

There is constant character and plot progression after they leave the farm at the end of season 2

Plot and character progression on Walking Dead. The only character change is the zombie's capacity to be inteligent to somehow be atracted to fire.

Seasons 5 and 6 are the absolute WORST seasons. You ask me the show was truly in its prime in its first two seasons. Season 3 worked only because of the Governor, after that it ALL went downhill in terms of story and consistency. The only watchable element of this show now is Negan, expertly played by the under-appreciated Jeff D. Morgan. They don't even deserve an actor of that caliber. At this point, they're milking the damn thing merely by the graces of Robert Kirkman prolonging his own comic series. The Walking Dead is suffering what could have happened to Game of Thrones had they decided to stretch that out even farther as well as Martin sleeps on his future entry for the next several years.

While I agree the first two seasons of Walking Dead are better, I would say the show was never great reggarding character development, there was a lot of plot holes or at least ridiculous sittuations (I saw some of this on the comic). But it is something that belongs to the genre, which frankly is not meant to be a long character based novel, but action based story.

By the way, Game of Thrones, with all technical quality is nowhere that good either. Most characters ended flat and the series demands some depth. There is a lot of gratuitous violence and sex, which show, a bit like Walking Dead, the writers love to appeal to shock. And with the last seasons, without the books, they missed a lot of references reggarding geography/chronology of the series and you utter mediocre characters (such as the latter Ramsey, saved by the actor who is a good comedian) and sittuations (such as Jamie rescue mission).

GOT is miles ahead in terms of writing and characters than TWD. The prime difference between the two is that one show has a solid enough goal built up by a great multidimensional story while TWD is one story told over and over again each season with a little more action and a little more gore, with no end in sight. It may just be the genre and context that is limiting its ability to have a direction, but it just doesn't register anymore at this point. Kill these damn folks off and end the series already.

I agree GoT is superior to TWD reggarding characters creation, but I must say, that is no big feat. It is for example, much inferior to the first season of True Detective or Fargo in this reggard. (but I am ok with that, things do not need to be always the same level).

TWD is recycled nonsense for the brain dead fanboys. Same story over and over with annoyingly bad characters.

Don't get hurt kid. I'm not your daddy, I'll beat you senseless.

Hardly. The most overrated show is Game of Thrones, by miles.

Tom is on point GoT overrated that it hurts

Absolutely.

OP is right. and TD fanboys are the worst.

No way. True Detective is the best show ever made in TV history

I'd say that Season 1 is a solid 9/10. Season 2 was maybe 6/10. You have to bear in mind that Nic Pizzolatto spent years writing S1 but had to crank out S2 with a much smaller time table. The problem with the ratings here on IMDB is that they make no distinction between the two seasons.

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Totally agree regarding season 1 hugely overrated in my opinion. Great acting very good cinematography as well.
story really lacked a lot. And season 2 was garbage.

You're on the wrong board, Game of Thrones is over there >

I'll pump her full of motley seed, until she pops out a little me! -Shagwell

True detective season 1 is the best thing ever happened to tv. So no..

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Granted, I haven't seen season 2

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Of course you haven't and why shouldn't we just take your word?

Yeah, I don't know how this show is #19 on the list of top series of all time. There are only two seasons of it, and the second one wasn't good.

In fact, even the first one was disappointing in the end. The last two episodes were completely different from the first 6, and I even read somewhere that they were written by somebody else. It certainly shows.

the big bang theory or the walking dead.

Enjoy your Walking Dead. This show is amazing.

Don't get hurt kid. I'm not your daddy, I'll beat you senseless.

..another: I can not/do not = Everyone else should too - thread!

GAAAH!

I havent watched the second season yet. But First season ending was a rushed, cop out endingalomost cliche for a mystery movie. Character development was fine though. Based on my limited experience with TV series, Fargo season 1 is the best among what I have seen.

I'd say the first four/five episodes up to where they get to the meth lab are some of the best TV I've ever seen, except for the biker stuff in episode 4, which led to maybe the best scene in the show but at the same time felt out of place. The only show I can remember coming close in recent years that I've seen is Fargo, especially the second season, which is arguably even better.

I did love how they had 3 different time periods in the show but indeed the ending felt rushed and lazy, it was nowhere near the level of the first couple of episodes that's for sure. Makes you wonder what happened with the writing as its only one season long anyway, shouldn't be that hard to make an ending that matches the start of the show plot and pace wise.

have to agree. it's not that great. I'm probably not even going to look at season 2. the only thing I got out of the first season is a reminder of how attractive McConaughey is. I guess the weird undertones of homoeroticism was entertaining too.

9.1 No effing way. This show is so boring it's been torture having to watch it all. Nothing ever happens, and when it does, where the hell did that come from. All their clues come from nowhere, and from nowhere comes all their clues. Maybe I wasn't paying attention as it was so incredibly boring. But with Woody harrelson and McConnaghey something. The two people I could never recognise apart. Afasia? Together in a TV-series, those two Movie stars, doesn't happen very often, if ever. Maybe that's why they were so serious all the time, or overplaying it. So boring. Until the last two episodes, finally something happened. Geez carothers

Green ears?

Jesus wept

They say that TV is the the new literature: the best medium to talk about complex topics that wouldn't fit into a two hour movie. Breaking Bad is Macbeth, House of Cards is Richard III, Person of Interest is 1984, Over the Garden Wall is the Divine Comedy and Newsroom, by the show's own admission, is Don Quixote and True Detective should be renamed Mopey Dicks, because it really felt that there is too little detective work and too much of the characters being dicks and than moping about it. And before I get a million "stick to watching reality shows" responses, I have a few questions for you?

1. Did you really care about the Rust-Maggie-Marty love triangle? Were you at all surprised that it ended with all the characters being a..holes to each other and then feeling miserable about it?

2. Did you really feel any sympathy for Marty when he was going on and on about his midlife crisis? You were never annoyed with this guy?

3. Did you really feel any sympathy for Rust when he was slowing down a homicide investigation by going on and on about the meaninglessness of everything, smoking a *beep* tone of cigarettes into the faces of his colleagues, being mean to them for asking questions that might HELP SOLVE THE CASE BEFORE ANYONE ELSE DIES?!

4. When re watching the show you never fast forward through all the relationship drama just to get to that awesome shootout?

Perhaps it was a bit too complex in philosophical terms for you to appreciate it, just give it another try and think about what's going on.

If there's a grossly overrated show, then that's The Wire.

The execution of the first season until the end is so impeccable and enjoyable I actually overlooked the lacking ending. It could be better, yes, but the atmosphere this show offered is insuperable.

nah your opinion is wrong and you should feel wrong

Breaking Bad is easily the most overrated show. At least a lot of diehard TWD fans can joke about how bad it's gotten over the last few seasons and that it's not exactly the greatest show ever.

well,it's really overrated,i've just watched season one it's okay but it's just okay it doesn't deserve more than 7.5/10